User talk:Moisejp/Archive 5

Bob Dylan edit

Hi Moisejp, what is your opinion of the editing [1] going on with Bob Dylan article? Mick gold (talk) 23:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Watching the River Flow

Hi Moisejp, I've added some critical material to WTRF. The article is interesting but I have one query. Why is it described as a blues song? Blues to me usually takes the form of AAB, or 12 bar blues. Significant blues songs recorded by BD include "Meet Me In The Morning" on BOTT, and "Rollin' and Tumblin'" on MT. On BD's first album there are many blues, inc "Baby Let Me Follow You Down" and "See That My Grave Is Kept Clean". WTRF doesn't seem to me to have either the rhyme scheme or feel of a blues. It's hard to put it in a genre, I'd suggest it's got a piano-driven boogie feel. Mick gold (talk) 18:00, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making the BD edit. I have several books by Marcus, but not that one. Let me know what it says if you get a look. I've mined all the books I've got for WTRF material, and there isn't much. The critics seem to agree it is a song about being uninspired. Mick gold (talk) 18:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SELOTL,thanks Moisejp, it would be good if you could add a sound clip. In the FAC of BoB, I think you said clip could be 10% of song length. SELL is 682 seconds, so could clip be 68 secs? My sugestion would be: come in at 50" "with your pockets well protected" and then go out at 01.54 after "Arabian drums". That way we hear enigmatic images and a sizeable part of the sad eyed chorus. If it has to be less than that that, I'll think again. or I'll listen with interest to your suggestions. Mick gold (talk) 13:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Enjoy your wiki break. Let me know when you're back in action. Mick gold (talk) 18:58, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Moisejp, welcome back from your wiki break. I'll have another look at WTRF when I get a moment. My vinyl copy of the Hits album is called More Bob Dylan Greatest Hits (1971). It credits Leon Russell as producer of WTRF. No other info, aside from crediting Happy Traum on last 3 tracks: Released, Nowhere & Flood. On the Dylan website, there are images of picture sleeves of WTRF [2] but I'm not sure how to grab them. Regards, Mick gold (talk) 08:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Moisejp, I would consider boogie an appropriate category. That's what I hear in the music, rather than boogie woogie, but there is inevitably something a tad subjective in these categories. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Personnel:

The Olof Bjorner ref for personnel, in addition to the musicians we list, also gives the following: Claudia Linnear & Kathy McDonald (backup vocals). I can't hear any backup vocals on either "River Flow" or "Masterpiece". Presumably, the personnel listed on his site is for the session as a whole, which doesn't necessarily mean they appeared on every song. The background singers could have appeared on some of the covers or alternate takes of "Masterpiece". But by the same token, how do we know the other musicians necessarily did play on "River Flow"? Or, it seems unlikely but still hard to 100% discount the possibility, maybe the backup vocals are in "River Flow" but way down in the mix, and drowned out by the various instruments. I don't know, I'm just saying if we have to be careful to not fall into OR by making any assumptions. The best solution is if we could find personnel credits for the individual song, but I'm not too hopeful about that. My only other solution, a bit convoluted and unsatisfying, would be to say something like "These are the personnel for the sessions, but it is not clear whether all of these musicians played on 'River Flow'." Even that could be bordering on OR, though. Or possibly leave out the Personnel section, but that's not a very satisfying solution either. Do you have any ideas?

I would leave out out Linnear and McDonald. There are no women's voices on this song. I don't think anyone will criticise you for OR, and if they do, I will support you in any ensuing controversy to the best of my abilities. My hunch is Linnear and McDonald were booked for the session, but a take with their voices wasn't released. I don't have Krogsgaard (1995). Carl Radle was a well know bass player, he was after all with Derek and the Dominos. As for the Netherlands chart, I'm afraid I don't have a strong opinion, and I trust you to do the right thing with the material. On the Dylan Talk page, there has been much discussion of his religious status, what a fascinating topic that is. Mick gold (talk) 09:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I associate boogie woogie with Meade Lux Lewis [3] and Pine Top Perkins. I don’t think WTRF sounds like that. To my ears, Leon Russell’s piano-led rock band makes WTRF comparable with “With A Little Help From My Friends” and “Delta Lady”, both hits for Joe Cocker with Leon Russell producing. What do you call that? WP calls Cocker’s “Help” Blues rock, blues rock can have both guitar and piano extensions. What record does WTRF sound comparable to – for you? Mick gold (talk) 09:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Moisejp, I certainly like your #1 proposal, I think that nails it. I agree it sounds like a slower Woogie Boogie minus sax. Once again we see how under-estimated Self Portrait was. Mick gold (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, let's go with Blues rock, the same genre as the work of Joe Cocker which I mentioned above. Mick gold (talk) 15:08, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added some words, please change if you're not keen on anything. Russell photo obviously good, Wyman also Ok, add Greil if you like the idea. I think he wrote his essay in 1971 so early Greil would be good, maybe not obtainable. Mick gold (talk) 15:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The photos look nice and I like the ways you have improved the article. The refs to Gill, Marcus etc via google.ca work fine for me. I don't know where Heylin gets his Russell idea from, it would be good if CH had provided some ref. I'm going to be away for a week with limited access to computer, so I won't contribute much just now. Mick gold (talk) 08:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be tardy, I was away & then interrupted by 99 other things. I like the way you've expanded the article, I think it reads well. The only thing I noticed was Gray points out Russell played bass on Dylan's next 1971 single, "George Jackson", so I've added that. Tweak if you see anything wrong with refs. Russell toured with Dylan in 2011 [4]. Well done on WTRF. Mick gold (talk) 10:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for nominating WTRF, I'll try to pay attention to ensuing discussion. Mick gold (talk) 06:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Moisejp, I thought of adding a caption to the audio sample. I wanted to add: "Dylan's backing band on "Watching the River Flow" features the "rollicking" piano of Leon Russell and the "blistering" lead guitar of Jesse Ed Davis." But when I tried to add it to info box with sample, caption didn't seem to work. Suggestions? Mick gold (talk) 07:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for comment, Moisejp. I tried to move audio file and add caption, and it seemed to work. Let me know if you disagree. Hope your internet problems are quickly resolved. All quiet on the GAN front so far.... Mick gold (talk) 22:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks, Moisejp. Those were kind words and I really appreciated them. I'm just tired and I see no fun anymore here. I'll let others continue. I'm not completely off yet, because I still have some pending business here. I don't know if you're interested, but I do have an open FAC: Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias. Although I won't be able to reply, Astynax will be there to answer anything you might want to know. But this is just in case you have the interest to look at it. Don't feel obliged to. Again, thanks for everything. Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 20:29, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your reviews

I can't get enough of how good your reviews are Moise. Brilliant on every level. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:Dance for You

Hey thanks a lot my friend. Is it right to nominate "Halo" now? It has been copy-edited by three copy-editors this week. Please see the history. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:08, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Take your time. I am so happy Nikki loved it. I really love Nikki and you a lot. You are so similar, kind, polite, gentle, always ready to help. Lol. Goodnight. Sleep well. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will nominate the article in a few hours (Around 12 hours or less). Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks a lot. Thanks for your precious contributions as well. You are very special to me. :D Enjoy your wiki-break fully. Listen to some Beyonce music. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:13, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you here? I don't need help on any article. Lol. I have to tell / ask you something. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that you precious advice was not accepted here. I really appreciate you, so please don't think I am pitying you but I felt sad when I saw this. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where you said that sometimes we should take criticism favorably and think that we are in fact being pushed/helped to improve the article. I mean you wrote it so clearly and kindly, yet it was ignored in a very bad way. So, I felt a bit sad because I know that you always show good intentions. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:42, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are an angel. Thanks for those kind words. I receive kind words very often but the ones which came from you were the most touching and the kindest. To tell you frankly, what motivates me is the immense love I have for Beyonce. I feel like I can do anything for her. Lol. I know I seem crazy sometimes but it's like she is an important part of my life, somehow the reason for which I live (of course only partly. Lol). I am also surprised that I managed to convince all those copy-editors. Hey, don't get me wrong, I wanted to ask you something since long, hmm are you a boy? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. :P I hope you did not find this weird but it's just that I wanted to know because my mom always tells me that there are certain things you cannot say to a man or a woman. I have to get to the B-Class Beyonce articles now. I am working on some of them for GAs. Her husband is on some of the songs and I don't like him. :D Take care. See you later. Enjoy your wiki-break to the maximum. May God bless you. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will do that with pleasure. :D Same here, I cannot stay without logging in daily. See you soon. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: School Days

Thanks Moisejp, I appreciate that :)... It took me just over a week to rewrite School Days from scratch and I used a lot of what I learned from your GA review to weed out a lot of problems I had with Cross Days. Valce Talk 00:05, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Congratulations!

Thank you so much. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You...

Moise I am so happy. :D Thanks for everything. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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		I, Jivesh, thank you wholeheartedly for your much appreciated help and copy-edits on "Halo". Your kind and encouraging words helped me even more (morally). May God bless both you and the day I came across a kind and helpful person like you on Wikipedia. -> Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	It is with grand appreciation that I award you this barnstar for completing Good Article reviews for the December 2011 Good Article Nomination backlog elimination drive Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 22:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sinking of the RMS Titanic FAC

Thanks very much for your comments on the Featured Article nomination of Sinking of the RMS Titanic. I've replied to the issues you raised - could you please take a look and indicate whether you might now wish to support the nomination? Prioryman (talk) 11:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This file is still used in an article; it was deleted through vandalism, but I put back. Moisejp (talk) 04:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Watching the River Flow

The article Watching the River Flow you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Watching the River Flow for comments about the article. Well done! Kürbis (✔) 11:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! The hits just keep on coming. Mick gold (talk) 17:57, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1. Jesse Ed Davis. I thought it was obvious he was lead guitar on the session. That bluesy lead guitar is what he was famous for. If you look at The Concert For Bangladesh [5], it's Davis who plays all those lead guitar lines. Don Preston is also in The Concert but he's rhythm guitar. There are websites devoted to playing that Jesse Ed Davis style of blues guitar. [6]

2 Funny you mention Rolling Stone report. I had the same thought. The problem is that when I use the advanced search on Rolling Stone DVD ROM, I haven't found the stuff CH mentions. There are no hits on WTRF from 1971; there are 2 from 1972 but they don't report that material. I'll keep looking. As for your prose idea, I'm not sure what you mean, but please go ahead and try it out. Mick gold (talk) 21:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the prose flows OK. I have been doing many variant searches for (saving your sensibilities) WTRF, Dylan, Russell, Blue Rock. By reading RS page by page I finally found this in Random Notes, but it's not very substantial:

Rolling Stone, April 15, 1971, p. 4, Random Notes:

Rumor of the Week Runner Up: Leon Russell has been recording with Bob Dylan in the latter’s studio in the Village. Sources said Dylan and Russell were doing original stuff, with Leon on piano, Dylan singing, Jesse Ed Davis on guitar, Carl Radle on bass, and Jim Keltner on drums. The session, as you might have guessed, was closed.

There are no hits on WTRF from 1971. There are 2 from 1972, neither very interesting. One is a review of Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II by Paul Nelson, 6 Jan 72, which merely mentions the song. The second is an article, "N.Y. Recording Scene Seethes" by Chris Hodenfield, 2 Mar 72, which is a report on the NY recording scene, and mentions that Dylan & Russell preferred to record in Blue Rock to recording in a CBS studio. That's all my RS has furnished me with. I'm off for 2 weeks to Crete, without any Dylan books or much internet access, so I won't be able to contribute much. I try to keep an eye on main Bob Dylan article, since people keep adding idiocies to it! Happy editing & best wishes Mick gold (talk) 06:10, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the specs

thanks for spending the time to write me in such detail and good temper. i really dont know too much about editing wikipedia, tho i have used it often as a source of info. i plan to drop the whole thing. just as a point of purpose, i started editing the page because people were constantly telling me that they had looked for us and found this other band. it may have been silly of me to ask you to google our band, my only point was that there are hundreds of articles available about our band, and i have not been able to find much of anything about the cover band. i have heard of mathew sweet as we have relationships with many athens bands; it's just been a drag to have to explain to fans that the wikipedia article has nothing to do with us. thanks again for the manner in which your letter was written. -steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevetirozzi (talk • contribs) 19:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with Wigwam sample

Hello, Moisejp. You have a new message at Talk:Wigwam (Bob Dylan song)'s talk page. Viriditas (talk) 04:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

re If Not for You

Hi Moisejp. No, you go right ahead and change refs style to match other Dylan articles (it was very considerate of you to ask actually). I like the idea of automatic links from Notes to listing in Refs as well, it's just that the only template I've come across allows for Harvard style only − which I can't stand(!), too many full stops etc. But this is a Bob song, and I'm all for consistency across one artist's work. Would you agree, though, that "I'd Have You Anytime" is more a George song so should retain style I've been imposing across 1970−75 Harrison solo articles? I might add a few more points for the Harrison "If Not for You", from some new books I've got. It's funny that you got in touch, cos when I put "My Sweet Lord" up for GAN recently I noticed "Wigwam" and thought, "Hey, I wonder if Moisejp can work on 'If Not for You' since right now there's more on Olivia Newton-John's version than on Bob's original!" Regards, JG66 (talk) 04:40, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Moisejp. Yes, I'm sure our paths'll cross, which would be great, cos I can see from above your contributions have won a good few fans. I was thinking, with the Concert for Bangladesh album, would you have a ref or two to add maybe, late in the section "Record company obstruction", to support the point "Dylan and his record company were already benefiting from the exposure provided by the Bangladesh concerts, through the timely release of Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II ..."? Just seems like an extra source would be welcome, and it's a point I've read about in a few books over the years, but (usual thing) can't find when I need it. (It might've been Shelton's book, which I've now lost.) Would be great if you could add something; no probe if not, of course. Another thing, about GA noms: I've always wondered about mentions of "Reviews" against nominated articles, and I can see you've amassed a few for Wigwam. On that article's Talk page, clicking "View reader feedback" reveals nothing, so can I ask what the reviews are and how you go about getting them? Thanks Moisejp. Sorry to add to your workload! Cheers, JG66 (talk) 05:50, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much. Very illuminating, about those reviews. I'll get on to Mick gold sometime soon − good luck with Wigwam, by the way! JG66 (talk) 07:10, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Wigwam (Bob Dylan song)

The article Wigwam (Bob Dylan song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 5 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Wigwam (Bob Dylan song) for things which need to be addressed. Kürbis (✔) 20:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Wigwam (Bob Dylan song)

The article Wigwam (Bob Dylan song) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Wigwam (Bob Dylan song) for comments about the article. Well done! Kürbis (✔) 09:19, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What will be the next project of WP Dylan? Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 09:20, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd Have You Anytime

Hi there Moisejp. Thanks for all that info on cover versions for this song. I'm happy to do a bit more investigating and add them to the article (I think the Nillah one, for instance, might be a different song). I know what you mean about criteria for inclusion in these Cover Versions sections − I recently worked on My Sweet Lord and ended up adding each and every cover version I could find, only because the approach previously seemed to be to list pretty much anyone and everyone, regardless of whether they have an article as an artist. Makes for a very long list in some cases, of course(!). Your idea of wiki-artists-only covers sounds like a good one, though, in hindsight. Hey, well done on the Wigwam GA. Thanks again. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 15:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Stanley Theatre Heritage Plaque.jpg listed for deletion on Wikimedia Commons

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Mama, You Been on My Mind

Moisejp: Wonderful to hear from you. On the business at hand, there's more that could be added to "Mama..." but not a great deal, because of how little has been written about the song. A couple of things are missing, such as Dylan "gave" the song to Baez, who recorded it first. I have material on that and will probably re-structure the Covers section to start with it. Another possibility is a sentence or two on how Harrison came to record it as a demo. More noticeably missing are specifics on the song's narrative. It really is a great song, but there's not a lot available in terms of analysis. As for GA, I think it would take some of what I've suggested as well as a couple more sources, though I don't know all that much about the criteria or process to say.

Back to where I started, I've been engaged in a bunch of things that have helped me avoid too much heavy editing, though I've dabbled with the Train Songs list and more recently Dylan Covers, basically because that kind of thing is easy to pick up and put aside. However, I would like to pitch in again with the BD project, so if you have something to suggest that you think needs help or attention, let me know. BTW, if I haven't mentioned it before, you can hear me Saturday mornings on wdiyfm.org, 11 am-1 pm EST, where I host a mixed bag program of folk, blues, bluegrass, swing, folk rock and the like. Meanwhile, I'd like to hear what you've been up to and hope everything is well. Allreet (talk) 19:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Moisejp: The more sources the merrier. Some of the material I used under Lyrics would actually fit better under Reception/Appraisal, so feel free to re-locate whatever you want. (If you need the original source material, let me know, and I'll provide a transcript.) Frankly, as I said before, I haven't been able to find much on the song's narrative, so I used the critical descriptions from Heylin, Gill, etc. Anything else you can dig up and add on the lyrics would be appreciated.

I'm about to tackle a re-write of "Pledging My Time", which is just barely a stub. I put together notes using some of the sources from BoB and think there's a half-decent story to tell. I'll let you know when I post the first pass. Oh, and do tune in if you can. To give you an idea of what I play, here's a link to my playlists dating back to this summer when we upgraded our website (use the links at the bottom of the first list; only 6 or so display at a time): http://wdiyfm.org/programs/all-reet-street. Talk with you soon. Allreet (talk) 04:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

H61R Review

Thanks, I'll happily use it. But there's one word I can't read. Can you assist?

"Based upon his singles hit 'Like a Rolling Stone', Dylan has a top-of-the-chart ? in this package of his off-beat, commmericial material".

It's hard to read but it's an interesting comment from the US trade paper and cite is clearly valid. Thanx again. Mick gold (talk) 08:04, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Moisejp, I've added comment & I'm not sure of right format for Billboard cite. Can you help? Mick gold (talk) 15:54, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, fast work! Mick gold (talk) 07:58, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Moisejp, I've responded to the questions you raised on my Talk page. Mick gold (talk) 13:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Moisejp, I've responded again. Mick gold (talk) 23:28, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Moisejp, I'm happy with your rearrangement of Reception. Mick gold (talk) 10:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your Live addition. I've commented on my page. Mick gold (talk) 18:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One other idea: photos? Now that we have a Live section, just about any Dylan live shot would fit there. Another idea is the pic in the Charlie McCoy article, and the caption could say that it was the first appearance of McCoy on a Dylan album, with several other appearances to follow. Maybe an Al Kooper shot could be a third one to use for balance. But whatever, these are just ideas. Again, if you'd rather not bother with any pics for now, I'll drop the idea. Moisejp (talk) 19:09, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I favor photos from the time, ie 1965/66. If you can find Kooper, McCoy, live Dylan, that would be great. I'll help with captions. Mick gold (talk) 07:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding the photos! I think they enhance the article. I've added captions - please tweak if you want to. I also added copy to cover the point that H61R was Dylan's first 'rock' album, as mentioned in the lead. I'm quite pleased by article now and think we're ready for FAC. What do you think? Best Mick gold (talk) 10:01, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for FAC. Fingers crossed. Imho the replacement of Tom Wilson by Bob Johnston is a major incident in Dylan's recording career, and has been subject of much debate in the biographies. So it's worth giving some detail on this in H61R. The prominence of Kooper's organ in mix is not a minor thing, it's the key to the whole sound of the record, and this single went on to become arguably the most important song/recording in Dylan's career. There is some detail on the mysterious "Lunatic Princess Revisited" recording in this article, which is not of any consequence. I think it's worth acknowledging a major turning points of Dylan's career in recording studio with sourced info. Best, Mick gold (talk) 07:49, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Moisejp, I did have a feeling the songs section could be reduced, so I didn't find it hard to do it quickly. I'm glad you're not horrified! I'm puzzled how to respond to his comments on the Live section being a list; I think it's there to demonstrate these songs have remained central to BD's career in last 47 years. Mick gold (talk) 15:42, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go at breaking the song sections down into Side One and Side Two. Please tweak if it doesn't look right. We're certainly shaving material. The OK Computer sections on songs is certainly longer than ours. Our H61R article is now less than half the length of OK Computer article. Not sure if this is progress, but it's certainly FAC! I'm sure any modification (& reduction) you make to Live section will be welcomed. Mick gold (talk) 08:59, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You've done a good job on the tone/neutrality front. I'll edit it if I see something amiss. Part of me thinks the object of this FAC is to produce the most banal account of H61R possible. After all, it was a "hit" single that kick-started the album. And Dylan's commentary on the Old Testament has been heard as "audacious" by every critic who has commented on this work. Mick gold (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and surely it's objectively true that H61R commences with a hit single? LARS was a hit single and it commences the album. I may query this on FAC discussion. Mick gold (talk) 07:44, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"multiple accolades" - I thought this referred to RS poll position for album, for 3 songs from album, & also to critical plaudits from Heylin, Scaduto, Marqusee, Gray, Shelton, Pollizzotti, Gill et al, so I thought it was OK. Your fix on "live performances" seems like a good idea to me. You could ask Nathan on FAC Talk page if this resolves his concern with this section. Mick gold (talk) 11:27, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think your LARS caption is neat & to the point. Mick gold (talk) 18:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I too did not see any off-line newspaper/magazine article without page numbers. I have not consciously addressed the alternation of "Dylan, he, the singer". Good luck, onwards & upwards. Mick gold (talk) 08:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought your rationale of why certain tenses have been used in H61R prose was good. Mick gold (talk) 08:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello + Thanks

Hi buddy. How are you? Hey I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the advice you gave me via Facebook. I have now decided what I will do in the future and I am determined. I also made up my mind to return to Wikipedia. I missed being here. Sincere thanks to you Moise. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:09, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for being so nice Moise. It is always a pleasure to read a message from you. Well, I have some potential FAs in my mind but a lot of work has to be put to reach there considering how they actually stand. I plan to do "Best Thing I Never Had" and "If I Were a Boy" in the near future. I also hope we can collaborate on something at some point. And I will surely give you the details on Facebook very soon. I will leave you a message (a pretty big one) when I am a bit more available. For the time being, I am very tired and I am going to bed early. Bye buddy, see you very soon. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine, thanks. How are you? I will post some comments tomorrow. It's night here right now (22 00). See you soon. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:15, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings buddy. I am very sorry for taking so long. I have been a bit busy lately at work. This week was the last one for the 2012 season of the Mauritius Turf Club horse racing. There was so much to do that I did not get time to review your article. I am sincerely sorry for that. I will get to it as soon as possible. Thanks for your comprehension. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:29, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

Hi. Since you give comments on music-related articles that are listed at WP:PR, I was wondering if you could give some helpful comments to Wikipedia:Peer review/Cher/archive1? Thanks, Lordelliott (talk) 05:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dylan's "Pledging My Time"

Hi, Moisejp. I just posted a draft of "Pledging My Time". I'd appreciate if you'd take a look at it and make whatever changes or additions you feel are appropriate. I covered most of the story, though the lede still needs a bit more. I removed the Personnel section, which had covered the full BoB lineup; I still need to pin down exactly who played on the song, as opposed to everyone who's credited for the album. Also, the citations need to be "refnamed" to consolidate them. Hope to hear from you and that you're doing well. Allreet (talk) 08:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas

May your Christmas sparkle with moments of love, laughter and goodwill,

May the year ahead be full of contentment and joy,

May the good times and treasures of the present become the golden memories of tomorrow,

Merry Christmas To U & Ur Family.

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]