User talk:Mistermoab

Your submission at Articles for creation: Chesbro Music Company (January 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Robert McClenon (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Mistermoab, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Chesbro Music Company (January 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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SwisterTwister talk 20:46, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Teton Guitars (January 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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SwisterTwister talk 03:42, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Chesbro Music Company has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Chesbro Music Company. Thanks! Devopam (talk) 17:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Chesbro Music Company (January 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Devopam was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

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Devopam (talk) 07:52, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Teton Guitars (February 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:42, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use File:Teton Solid Body Electric Ukulele.jpg

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February 2016

Hello, I'm Emotionalllama. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Twelve-string guitar because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Emotionalllama (talk) 20:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Teton Solid Body Electric Ukulele.jpg

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Chesbro Music Company (March 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by 333-blue was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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333 -blue 23:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Teton Guitars (March 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by 333-blue was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the general guideline on notability and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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333 -blue 08:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Brady Parks

The article Brady Parks has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. —Latchem 22:22, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Teton Guitars (August 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by JSFarman was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

You need references from reliable independent sources that provide extensive coverage - the references used here aren't sufficient.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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JSFarman (talk) 01:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Chesbro Music Company has been accepted

Chesbro Music Company, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Atlantic306 (talk) 18:42, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

Hi, can you please check all the references of the Chesbro Music Company article as some of them link to the wrong internet sites. Thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Rarefication (guitars) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rarefication (guitars) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rarefication (guitars) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Teton Guitars (November 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

To put it simply and honestly, simply none of this actually establishes what is genuinely needed for notability. Simply given the fact this is only 6 years old (regardless of what publication still spoke or covered them), all of this has still summarized as being too soon.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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SwisterTwister talk 05:48, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:TetonGuitarsLogo.png needs authorship information

Dear uploader:

The media file you uploaded as File:TetonGuitarsLogo.png appears to be missing information as to its authorship (and or source), or if you did provide such information, it is confusing for others trying to make use of the image.

It would be appreciated if you would consider updating the file description page, to make the authorship of the media clearer.

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If you created this media yourself, please consider explicitly including your user name, for which: {{subst:usernameexpand|Mistermoab}} will produce an appropriate expansion,
or use the {{own}} template.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kit Nolan (January 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Listed sources are still only announcements, listings and mentions, none of it automatically inherits independent notability and what's here is simply not significant for the applicable standards.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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SwisterTwister talk 20:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kit Nolan (June 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheSandDoctor was:

Please do not resubmit this draft unless significant improvements are made and previous concerns raised are addressed. Resubmitting the draft with insignificant changes repeatedly could be considered tendentious editing and could possibly result in the deletion of the draft by an administrator.

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TheSandDoctor (talk) 21:37, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Kit Nolan concern

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Your draft article, Draft:Kit Nolan

Hello, Mistermoab. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kit Nolan".

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Proposed deletion of Lorin Walker Madsen

The article Lorin Walker Madsen has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No substantial coverage in independent sources. Doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO.

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Hello! I've nominated the above article for deletion because the topic doesn't appear to meet Wikipedia's standards for notability. Wikipedia has specific guidelines for what topics are sufficientely "notable" to merit an article, namely topics that have received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". For various subtopics, editors have written guidelines to help determine if that threshold is met. For musicians, that guideline is WP:MUSICBIO. If you think Lorin Walker Madsen does indeed meet that threshold, please remove the deletion tag I placed on that page and note why you believe the threshold is met. If you have questions, feel free to ask here or at WP:TEAHOUSE. Thanks! Ajpolino (talk) 17:45, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Teton Guitars concern

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Your draft article, Draft:Teton Guitars

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Draft:Teton Guitars concern

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Draft:Teton Guitars concern

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Your draft article, Draft:Teton Guitars

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Proposed deletion of File:TetonGuitarsLogo.png

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Unused logo

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