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SPI
Hi MfactDr, I currently can't investigate the sockpuppetry claim – would you mind presenting some diffs of evidence at WP:SPI and notifying me of the investigation? I'll then have another look. Thank you very much in advance ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:39, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Genet, Ethiopia
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- Yes you can proceed to delete. because it's empty this name not related to any pages. thanks MfactDr (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Honestly, don't you realize that the stuff you do makes Oromos look ridiculous by its sheer pettiness? Probably not what you want to accomplish. Why can't you reign in your nationalist feelings if they drive you to this kind of actions? Landroving Linguist (talk) 09:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi calm down and identify problem of my edit. abstain yourself from commenting your personal feeling about other editor. please discuss article problem of edit that your finding. Your message is not clear user Landroving Linguist. what do you mean:
1. "you do makes Oromos look ridiculous by its sheer pettiness". 2.Why can't you reign in your nationalist feelings if they drive you to this kind of actions?
Really are you here to attack personally as usual or discuss article problem that you are not agree with it? Are you here to discuss article I edit or want to discuss nationalist. You always matter takes some where else as predetermined. Please read my edit summary found out whether my edit was fallacious or not. my edit of Languages of Ethiopia is similar the table found in the List of ethnic groups in Ethiopia. if you want discuss my edit of article welcome. other wise you have no right attack me as I have evidence you attacked me previously as well for your misread. I will be report you soon. MfactDr (talk) 00:06, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
As Landroving Linguist engaged personal attacks and go beyond out of topic , please User:Eostrix join conversation and mediate .MfactDr (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Three quick observations here:
- User:Landroving Linguist, please tone it down. Discuss content, not your opinions on MfactDr. See WP:AVOIDYOU.
- User:MfactDr, LL makes a good point that population/census figures should all be aligned to the same source (the 2007 in this case?), as otherwise they will be inconsistent among themselves.
- Both of you - why are you using a 2007 source for population / language use ? Maybe finding a more recent source will help? I see the CIA world factbook is also using 2007 for language, and has percentages, but is there nothing more recent?
--Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 06:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Dear all. Thanks for your comments on my remark. Yes, I got carried away and assigned motives where I shouldn't. So let me explain. First, let me assure you that I consider MfactDr to be a good-faith editor whose goal it is to improve Wikipedia, and I observe him since he started contributing towards pages relating to Ethiopia some years back. He is willing to learn, and has taken some lessons to heart. That he edits with a strong Oromo nationalist perspective has never been denied by himself (even not now), and his edits make that abundantly clear. In the past I have repeatedly defended him against attacks by other users who called his edits vandalism, which they clearly are not. But once every few weeks MfactDr gets on a spree with doing reams of POV edits where he forgets everything he had learned before, and the object is usually to make the Oromo people, language and culture the shining center of the universe, usually at the expense of other peoples, languages and cultures of Ethiopia. So in the edit at hand it took the form of updating the Oromo language population figure by applying one source, so that it looks higher, and then to introduce another source to make the Amharic language population figures smaller. That's what I called petty and ridiculous, which I shouldn't have, so I now apologize for it.
- As for the old sources: yes, 2007 is way too old, but regarding the population numbers of ethnic groups in Ethiopia it seems to be all that there is. That is the date of the publication of the last census, where respondents are asked about their ethnic identity and mother tongue. A new census was planned for 2020, but had to be postponed because of Covid. Until this is done we need to stick to the 2007 census, particularly for lists of ethnic groups, where the numbers should all come from the same source. It is possible to get more recent numbers for larger groups such as Amhara and Oromo, and these figures are used on pages where no comparison is intended. Ethnologue provides more recent numbers about languages, so they could be used on this page, but they don't provide any percentages, which would have to be taken out. Calculating percentages would amount to orginal research. Landroving Linguist (talk) 08:10, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- User:Landroving Linguist, WP:CALC would apply to calculating percentages from absolute figures (assuming the source has absolute figures for all groups), so it would be permissible, not counting as original research.--Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 08:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm, I have not considered the calculation of percentages to be within WP:CALC, going by the examples given there: "Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age are some examples of routine calculations." But I'm willing to accept this if this is the consensus. Another thing that I forgot to mention is that MfactDr introduced the census numbers of ethnic identity for Amharic into the page, as opposed to the numbers for speakers of the language. The two are not the same, particularly for a language like Amharic. Less people identify as Amharas than are speaking Amharic as a mother tongue. Landroving Linguist (talk) 08:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, we have to be careful to use language figures and not ethnicity, particularly in countries with many ethnic groups, languages, and overlaps thereof.--Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 08:45, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm, I have not considered the calculation of percentages to be within WP:CALC, going by the examples given there: "Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age are some examples of routine calculations." But I'm willing to accept this if this is the consensus. Another thing that I forgot to mention is that MfactDr introduced the census numbers of ethnic identity for Amharic into the page, as opposed to the numbers for speakers of the language. The two are not the same, particularly for a language like Amharic. Less people identify as Amharas than are speaking Amharic as a mother tongue. Landroving Linguist (talk) 08:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- User:Landroving Linguist, WP:CALC would apply to calculating percentages from absolute figures (assuming the source has absolute figures for all groups), so it would be permissible, not counting as original research.--Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 08:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
User:Eostrix Thanks for participating in the discussion Really appreciate. Regarding your first remark. if you look carefully the sources in the lists speakers Except Amhara speakers sourced from 2007. you can see the differences in the Languages of Ethiopia § Languages. I agree all contents must have same consistency. this shows biased against other speakers except Amharic speakers as I am saying all-must have adherence to the same source since all coming from same country. Thanks MfactDr (talk) 03:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- User:Landroving Linguist should stop practice of responding accusation through abusive way by making a counter-accusation and raising a different issue to cover your personal attack like accusing me as nationalist without evidence. I am here to do right thing and questioning and raising an issue of inconsistency between contents and sources not make me nationalist either.
- Again questioning and updating according to 2007 not make me nationalist unless you have excessive negative attitudes and feelings toward particular people like you mentioned Oromo for example. Please don't go beyond the topic or discuss your personal feeling on here over and over. Please keep your negative feeling, unfair target and prejudice away from community based Wikipedia. Please stay within Wkipida rule. if I made mistakes or error raise the issue not your feeling.
- Back to the topic. Although the percentage coming from (CIA factbook) based on census 2007, the CIA world factbook not been there as the source. if it's based 2007, the number of population is incorrect as per this 2007 document[1]. I agree number of speakers and ethnicity is different. where is this number come from as Oromo(24,930,424), Amhara(21,634,396), Somali(4,609,274)etc as contradict with source? As Chapter III PP-96-98, (Ethnic Group, Mother Tongue, Religion and Marital Status), Tables 3.1 show the total results of the 2007 Census on Ethnic Group, Mother Tongue, Religion and Marital Status. According this source total Amharic speaker in both urban and rural as 2007 Clearly stated as 19,878,199, Oromo speakers(25,363,756) , Somali speakers (4,586,876) so on. So now compare the number stated in the source. there is inconsistency between contents and sources.MfactDr (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
User:Landroving Linguist as you said on edit summary "we need numbers from the same source. Other Wikipedia pages do not determine our correct handling of sources on this page" well despite your denial, the fact that language of Ethiopia pages uses 2007 census as main sources for all lists speakers except Amhara speakers. why all speakers not have the same sources? see Languages of Ethiopia § Languages.MfactDr (talk) 03:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
User:Landroving Linguist you see your biased comment. The rest of all speakers had to have 2007 census where respondents are asked about their ethnic identity and mother tongue. except for Amharic sourced 2010 and 2016. why you are excessively discriminate other speakers?MfactDr (talk) 07:13, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- I replaced the old source by the current Ethnologue. I hope that settles it. Landroving Linguist (talk) 07:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Statistical Tables for the 2007 Population and Housing Census of Ethiopia: Country Level". Central Statistical Agency. 2007. pp. 91–92. Archived from the original on 2012-11-13. Retrieved 2011-08-12.
Proposed deletion of Cushitic peoples
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Vandalism
Why did you delete my edit? I provided it with sources Amhara Man 06 (talk) 08:11, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
July 2021
I didn't see much of a discussion on your part after I reverted your recent edits on Ethiopians and Derg, and before you reverted them again. I gave the reasons for my reverts in the edit summaries, your re-reverts came without explanation. It looks that you are now into edit-warring behavior. If you do not engage in a proper discussion according to WP:BRD, I will revert your edits again tomorrow. BTW, this is my final warning. Your next edit warring/disruptive editing will have consequences. You have been warned often enough. LandLing 06:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Now this is where you crossed the line. I have warned you. LandLing 08:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Oromia. Once more you revert well documented edits (I explained things in the edit summaries and on the talk page), without giving more than a "I don't agree". This is disruptive editing, pushing POV based on ethnic nationalism. The next such edit I will bring to ANI. LandLing 08:02, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
You cannot threaten me from editing by calling me “ethnic nationalist” , “Oromo firebrand” as you are acting like authority on Wikipedia. while you are engaging edit-war, deleting sourced content, personal attack. so you think on the right track? MfactDr (talk) 08:36, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Your edits regarding Oromo language on Oromo people/language articles
You reverted me and removed a credible source from ethnologue that clearly shows Amharic has more speakers, you did this on both Oromo people [[1]] claiming unsourced or poorly sourced & on Oromo language article [[2]] claiming i misled, so i opened a section at the talk page, respond there. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 01:32, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Dawit S Gondaria According to Wikipedia rule You cannot remove existing source without adequate reasoning as you did here [3] and falsifying existing content here [4] to mislead other editorsMfactDr (talk) 02:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- @User:MfactDr As is being discussed at Talk:Oromo language, your claim/accusation that i misled other editors is baseless, and i asked your to stop dodging questions at the talk page or it will be put forward to one of the dispute resolution mechanism. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 02:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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Oromia
I have no any idea please discuss at Talk: Oromia and evaluate fairly whether Finfinne is claim by Oromo people and the whole world. I have added multiple sources of claim by Oromo people such as [5] and [6], which state that Finfinne is claim by Oromo. Please, please discuss at the talk page before declining my new well documented sources, I have no idea about external opinion, but for the aim of balancing Wikipedia articles fairly and proportionally. The Supermind (talk) 09:16, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, stop reverting the admin edit. You're not facing me, but the administrator who place the template. I've told you many times to stop adding irrelevant content to subject and find secondary independent sources and the WP:3RR is over, which result in banning from the project. Please stop threatening me but the administrator who place the template. The Supermind (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hahaha! Don't hope that he will give up forever, I will continue facing my eyes on the page after August 30 and never stops until you you agreed to revoke your privilege on the page and return to true Wikipedian. I will persistently accuse you for daring GoingBatty edit. Don't forget it. The Supermind (talk) 12:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- @The Supermind: I'm not an administrator, and you're providing the wrong diff. The only template I added in this diff was {{multiple issues}}, which is simply a wrapper to minimize the size of maintenance templates. Since the maintenance templates were removed (rightfully or not), it's OK for {{multiple issues}} to be removed. Please focus on improving the content of the article, provide independent reliable sources, assume good faith, and be civil with your discussions. GoingBatty (talk) 13:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: If he have a privilege to control over the page, I've right to edit the article for balancing and not for external opinion. No problem. The Supermind (talk) 13:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
MfactDr, you're are so fool because you forget an official embassy source here, which states Addis Ababa (Finfine) [sic], instead presenting this poor site, and I abandon Finfinne. In turns, I'm proposing to add other name such as Sheger. What do you think? The Supermind (talk) 13:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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Your edits
I don't understand what's the point of referring to Oromia as "the Oromia" (gramatically incorrect, first of all) instead of "the Oromia Region" nor what's the point of including 5 sources in an article that only has 2 to specify that Finfinne is the Oromo name of Addis Ababa (which was already specified). Could you stop with these edits? Super Ψ Dro 08:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- User:Super Dromaeosaurus, First of all I have no problem if it is called Oromia, Oromia region, Oromia state, Oromia regional state— all the same! However officially called "Oromia national regional state regional”
- Here some reasoning fact why the sources was added to the incorrect content in burayu.
- To show fact that Oromo language is primary official working language in burayu
- To correct the statement made in Burayu page saying “directly adjacent to the Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa (or Finfinne in Oromo)” this stament is incorrect there is no land called oromo.” Since Burayu located oromia should refers to Oromia not oromo. note that the word Oromo is not the name of the land/town/ city, it's an ethnic group name and language.
- To indicate Finfinne is the name used by Oromia Government authorities instead addis ababa.
Therefore, I don’t think there is any wrong with source and content of my edit. I have fixed wrong statement.MfactDr (talk) 23:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- The issue is not how to call the Oromia Region but that "the Oromia" (without region afterwards) is gramatically wrong. Also, aren't there Oromos in Kenya too? Isn't Oromia the Oromia Region of Somalia + the Oromo lands in Kenya? That's how I see it. People don't refer to Iraqi Kurdistan as Kurdistan, for example. Of course I am not any kind of expert in this however. "To show fact that Oromo language is primary official working language in burayu·" that's enough with leaving the Oromo language template before the Amhara one. It could also be said in the infobox. "Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa" "Oromo" here means "of Oromia (Region)", it isn't referring to Oromia as "Oromo". It's a demonym. "(or Finfinne in Oromo)" means that the city is known as Finfinne in the Oromo language. "To indicate Finfinne is the name used by Oromia Government authorities instead addis ababa." this is not completely necessary but I could rewrite "(or Finfinne in Oromo)" to "(known as Finfinne in Oromia)". Super Ψ Dro 08:23, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Super Dromaeosaurus: For the first point, you should present a case that "Oromia" is in fact also used with some currency to denote a wider area that encompasses all regions inhabited by Oromos (comparable e.g. to "Kurdistan" which may describe concrete administrative entities, the wider area inhabited by Kurds, or the area claimed by Kurdish nationalists). In the case of Oromia, I am not aware of such a wider usage of the term, so it is unambiguous. Just like Flanders unambiguously refers to a part of Belgia, even though Flemings also live in France and the Netherlands; or in the case of countries: Albania, Denmark, Greek, and Hungary do not have a specifier (country), even though Albanian, Danish, Greek, Hungarian minorities exist in neighboring countries.
- "Oromo capital" is tricky. "Oromian capital" would be more apt, but common usage doesn't have to be logical. One would have to look up in news text corpora to check if there is some preliminary common English usage visible for this very new entity.
- As for the usage of Finfinne, I have found a tentative way in Oromia how to explain why Addis Ababa is also called Finfinne (not just in Oromo, but also in English texts), but I haven't trimmed the ridiculous citebomb yet. I don't think it is due to mention the name Finfinne all over the place, except where context supports it. In Burayu, IMO it just bloats the next. –Austronesier (talk) 12:12, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- And finally, it's great that you have an interest to check what is going in WP:HORN-related articles. There's too much battleground mentality, which needs to to be counterweighed by uninvolved "outsiders" like you and me. –Austronesier (talk) 12:12, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- The first point is not much of an issue to me. I actually only now realized Oromia Region's page is only called Oromia unlike other Ethiopian regions such as the Somali Region or Tigray Region. So I guess Oromia can be used, but not "the Oromia".
- I see "Oromo capital" being more widely used "Oromian capital", three times more commonly according to Google results, so I guess the former is more appropiate. I honestly hadn't seen the alternative "Oromian" before, but again, I am not any kind of expert in this area.
- Regarding the third point, I've changed the text to "(known as Finfinne in Oromia)".
- And to be honest, even if the Horn of Africa is probably the region of the continent that interests me the most, my interest is still small, I am involved into this right now because I am the author of Burayu and these edits have been going since January 2020. Apart of this article, I might take a look at info about the Tigray War once every few months and that's it pretty much. Super Ψ Dro 19:15, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- The issue is not how to call the Oromia Region but that "the Oromia" (without region afterwards) is gramatically wrong. Also, aren't there Oromos in Kenya too? Isn't Oromia the Oromia Region of Somalia + the Oromo lands in Kenya? That's how I see it. People don't refer to Iraqi Kurdistan as Kurdistan, for example. Of course I am not any kind of expert in this however. "To show fact that Oromo language is primary official working language in burayu·" that's enough with leaving the Oromo language template before the Amhara one. It could also be said in the infobox. "Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa" "Oromo" here means "of Oromia (Region)", it isn't referring to Oromia as "Oromo". It's a demonym. "(or Finfinne in Oromo)" means that the city is known as Finfinne in the Oromo language. "To indicate Finfinne is the name used by Oromia Government authorities instead addis ababa." this is not completely necessary but I could rewrite "(or Finfinne in Oromo)" to "(known as Finfinne in Oromia)". Super Ψ Dro 08:23, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- User:Super Dromaeosaurus, I can see that you are the the page author. However you are not familiar with this area. I guess this page is under your watchlist which is nothing wrong. Let me explain. I know this area very well. I have created some of town and city located in this Zone. First of all, the Oromia region of Somalia does not exist at all!. There is only one Oromia regional state in this world which is located in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is administratively divided into 10 regional states. Oromia is one of them. There are 80+ethnic groups in Ethiopia . Oromo is one of them. Oromo is an indigenous Ethnic group to Ethiopia and Northern Kenya as well. Oromo Living in kenya are Borana oromo clan that extends from ethiopia into northern kenya like Marsabit County, Isiolo County due the land has been separated by british colony of kenya. Oromo living all over the world including african countries, Europe, north America and Australia. Hence the word oromo and oromia are completely different stuff. There are many sources out there if you interested. The statement in Burayu saying directly adjacent to the Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa (known as Finfinne in Oromia). this statement absolutely not makes sense to someone know the area very well or at least having knowledge of Ethiopia or horn Africa in General. if this statement is changed to directly adjacent to the Oromia state's and Ethiopia's capital Addis Ababa known as Finfinne. it makes sense that since Addis Ababa is a capital of Ethiopia and oromia regional state. MfactDr (talk) 01:40, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- "First of all, the Oromia region of Somalia does not exist at all!" yes, my bad, I meant Ethiopia. I don't see anything wrong with "directly adjacent to the Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa (known as Finfinne in Oromia)". "Oromo" means that it is adjacent to the capital of Ethiopoa (national) and Oromia (Oromo). Your proposal is less fluid and we can avoid the "'s" with adjectives (Oromo and national/Ethiopian). Furthermore, "Addis Ababa known as Finfinne" has issues. The undisputedly more common name for the city is Addis Ababa, not Finfinne, and your proposal makes it look not only as if Finfinne is a more common name, but as if it is the only name at all. "it makes sense that since Addis Ababa is a capital of Ethiopia and oromia regional state" my proposal does the exact same thing too. Super Ψ Dro 10:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Super Dromaeosaurus,why you interpreted or give definition by yourself by saying "Oromo" means that it is adjacent to the capital of Ethiopoa (national) and Oromia (Oromo). do you have a source for these definition? Do really Understand the difference between the word Oromia and Oromo? if you omit oromo in the statement it would be clear. Please cogitate About it before to give such erroneous definition. because there is no land called oromo on earth. if you provide source you have written the statement from it would be great.MfactDr (talk) 22:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- I will again specify "Oromo" is an adjective. See Oromo people and Oromo language. "Oromo" in these names specifies that the people and the language we are referring to happen to be Oromo, that is, of Oromia. We don't call these articles "Oromia people", "People of Oromia" or "Oromia's people". Yes, there's no land in the world called Oromo but the word Oromo refers to the land in the world called Oromia. Here are a few websites using the exact words "Oromo capital": [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. I imagine that you don't know much English yet and that in the other languages you know (I imagine Amhara and Oromo, or just Oromo) the structure of the languages is different, but I assure you, "Oromo capital" here makes sense. Super Ψ Dro 08:05, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Super Dromaeosaurus, I am referring the definition you gave this statement "Oromo" means that it is adjacent to the capital of Ethiopoa (national) and Oromia (Oromo). do you have any source for this? I bet You cannot find single source! The source you are showing is not the source you used when you were writing for the burayu article. Although in few published articles you can find it rarely, probably mistakenly written as " Oromo capital" rather than the majority of articles and the official website of the Ethiopian Government used "Oromia capital". Oromo capital, absolutely wrong! One example is that English is a language and also a people . England is a country that is located in the United Kingdom. London is the capital city of both England and the United Kingdom. In this case English and England are different. not be used interchangeably. You can not say the English capital refers to London. It sounds silly and inappropriate to say, right?
- User:Super Dromaeosaurus, I can see that you are the the page author. However you are not familiar with this area. I guess this page is under your watchlist which is nothing wrong. Let me explain. I know this area very well. I have created some of town and city located in this Zone. First of all, the Oromia region of Somalia does not exist at all!. There is only one Oromia regional state in this world which is located in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is administratively divided into 10 regional states. Oromia is one of them. There are 80+ethnic groups in Ethiopia . Oromo is one of them. Oromo is an indigenous Ethnic group to Ethiopia and Northern Kenya as well. Oromo Living in kenya are Borana oromo clan that extends from ethiopia into northern kenya like Marsabit County, Isiolo County due the land has been separated by british colony of kenya. Oromo living all over the world including african countries, Europe, north America and Australia. Hence the word oromo and oromia are completely different stuff. There are many sources out there if you interested. The statement in Burayu saying directly adjacent to the Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa (known as Finfinne in Oromia). this statement absolutely not makes sense to someone know the area very well or at least having knowledge of Ethiopia or horn Africa in General. if this statement is changed to directly adjacent to the Oromia state's and Ethiopia's capital Addis Ababa known as Finfinne. it makes sense that since Addis Ababa is a capital of Ethiopia and oromia regional state. MfactDr (talk) 01:40, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Similarly you can not say Maidstone is located adjacent to the English and National capital London. likewise applies to burayu as well. Please Judge by yourself in an understanding way. MfactDr (talk) 01:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- "English capital" is 100% correct. "England capital" is 100% wrong. Same with Oromo and Oromia. "Similarly you can not say Maidstone is located adjacent to the English and National capital London." you can. English/Oromo are adjectives that can complement a noun (capital); two nouns with nothing else don't work. Super Ψ Dro 08:07, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- I am here to correct factual error not to discuss adjective or nouns. even here in wiki, London is the capital and largest city of England not English. In simple way do you have the reliable source for this statement you made in Burayu. This: Burayu is directly adjacent to the Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa If so Please include the source. thanks for participating in discussion MfactDr (talk) 08:48, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- We don't have to source random sentences in Wikipedia. If I had a source for that exact sentence, I would have committed a copyright violation. Please take a look at these links: [12] [13]. "English capital" is widely used in the text of articles, "England capital" is not. Super Ψ Dro 09:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- your search in wikipedia shows mixed results in both Key words like English capital and England Capital. not exact meaning i.e London. take a look at this Via google chrome. The result is remarkable. English capital is failed to come up with the exact result looking for here[14] while the kew words like England Capital is shows the exact result i'e London here[15]. Please give credit for-this result😁 MfactDr (talk) 11:49, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- I am here to correct factual error not to discuss adjective or nouns. even here in wiki, London is the capital and largest city of England not English. In simple way do you have the reliable source for this statement you made in Burayu. This: Burayu is directly adjacent to the Oromo and national capital Addis Ababa If so Please include the source. thanks for participating in discussion MfactDr (talk) 08:48, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
September 2021
Hi there - Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. You didn't provide a source for your changes to the Fuad Ibrahim article, and I couldn't find one either. If you have a reliable source please let me know and we can change the article. Please let me know if you have any questions. GiantSnowman 08:46, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Jawar Mohammed. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:31, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- TrangaBellam Do you have any evidence that I have added promotional content to Jawar Mohammed page. The page has been edited by several users. My edit summary was very clear if you pay attention. first I restored for removal content and 2nd I have replaced the Infobox from criminal to Infobox person.
Honestly I am protecting the page I dont Know whoever edited previously by several editors.MfactDr (talk) 08:45, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, you're so protecting page while avoiding any edits, and believe your article creation is owned by you, which Wikipedia doesn't share this idea. You did not read five pillars since your account creation, and that still makes you problematic, authoritarian editor at all while disregarding other editor's advice and ideas. Your edit at Jawar Mohammed Activism section is promotional, meaning you expressed appreciation to the person, and advertising him on behalf of Wikipedia, which Wikipedia dislike so. TrangaBellam is right to remove the content immediately because you are disdaining to discuss at talk page that I posted a day before. Since you're contributing to this project, please be objective, fair, civil and neutral. The Supermind (talk) 20:51, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Noticeboard Incidents
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.The Supermind (talk) 04:26, 28 September 2021 (UTC)