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Mats84, good luck, and have fun. Rasnaboy (talk) 05:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Febris undularis" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Febris undularis and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 7#Febris undularis until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 15:12, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abc347834

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Hey Mats84, I noticed your comment in the RfD discussion for Camille Camille. As you wrote that the comment was made from nominator (when the nominator for that RfD was Abc347834), I just wanted to ask if the account Abc347834 is also operated by yourself, or if you have any other relation to it. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 17:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm the owner of both accounts. Sorry for the confusion. I have no intention to use sockpuppets and I should really be sticking to one account, but I've been logged in with different accounts on different computers and I've been too lazy to fix that, as I edit relatively rarely. I'll try to retire the Abc account from now. Mats84 (talk) 19:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Abc347834: If that's the case, you may want to consider either logging into the other account to request a WP:SELFBLOCK to prevent scrutiny (and to prove you own the other account since it may be odd asking the other account be blocked while using this account) or ask for the other account to have a WP:RENAME to make it clear it is you with a name like "User:Mats84 (alt)" or "User:Mats84-mobile", or something like that. (For reference, there are several editors who use an alternative account while on computers that are not their own, such as public computers, in the event the public computer eventually gets used by someone who vandalizes Wikipedia since a WP:SPI may result in determining you are a sock of the vandal after an IP investigation is performed.) Steel1943 (talk) 23:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Estonian IPA

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Hi, I saw you removed two IPAs from Same-sex marriage in Estonia. Using this (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Module:et-IPA) template and Help:IPA/Estonian, I couldn’t find the errors you mentioned, but it seems you speak Estonian. Do you mind telling me what’s wrong and adding the correct IPAs to the article :) Cheers, Panda2024 (talk) 09:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm just an amateur with no formal background in linguistics or phonology. However, I can see that the IPA conventions used in Wikipedia and Wiktionary for Estonian are unfortunately inconsistently applied and often misleading. I have also recently raised these issues on talk pages for Help:IPA/Estonian and Estonian phonology. Unfortunately I don't know if there is an established convention in literature to represent all the nuances of Estonian phonology in IPA.
In the case of Perekonnaseadus, the proposed pronunciation pronounced [ˈperekonʲɑseɑ̯d̥us] has at least the following problems:
  • the n is not palatalised (so the nʲ symbol is incorrect) and is a long (grade 2) sound. This is plainly just a mistake and would be easily fixed.
  • the use of d̥ is inconsistent with the use of k and p earlier. Both are short (grade 1) sounds, the spelling in perekonna uses p, k instead of b, g only because word-initially only k, p, t are used in native words, and "-kond, -konna" in "perekonna" is treated much like a separate word in a compound, although technically it's a suffix rather than an independent word. In the transcription it should have either p,k,t for all three, or b,g,d (with the circle mark) for all three, or just the last two.
  • the diphtong ea is "overlong" or "grade 3", which should be marked somehow, but I don't know the convention. For an individual vowel of consonant I've seen [a], [a:], [a::] used for the three phonemic lengths/gradations, but in case of a diphtong I'm not sure whether to use [ea:] or [ea::]. Note that a diphtong cannot be grade 1, only grade 2 or 3, so for a grade 2 diphtong there shouldn't be a need for a colon, and then for grade 3 the double colon would be redundant probably? But I don't know what the convention is.
In general, I think pronounced [ˈperekon:ɑseɑ̯::tus] might be acceptable and better than the previous IPA, but I'm not fully sure. I think for this article an IPA transcription for law names isn't really necessary anyway. Mats84 (talk) 10:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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