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Landquake

Just because it resembles a Gepard does not make it notable. Even if it is offically confirmed. Nobody needs anymore information than that. Why can't you get that through your head? And don't threaten me. --Bold Clone (talk) 19:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

You have no good reason to keep deleting this information. It is accurate, and it links to an article on the actual tank on wikipedia that the toy is modeled after. If the type of tank wasn't important than Wikipedia wouldn't have an article on that particular tank, it would only have a general article on tanks. Mathewignash (talk) 20:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you acutally think Landquake turns into a Gepard? --Bold Clone (talk) 17:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, as much as Bumblebee turns into a VW Bug or Cliffjumper turns into a Porshe. Mathewignash (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, you've been acting like 'LQ turns into a tank, but he looks like a Gepard, so I'll put that up there'. The fact that 2 of your referances only claimed that he looked like a Gepard didn't help. --Bold Clone (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

What the frelling heck is the different between being a Gepard and looking like a gepard? Are real Gapards bigger and not made of plastic? It's a toy. Mathewignash (talk) 18:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind...this was all a misunderstanding on my part based off what you were doing...--Bold Clone (talk) 18:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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Vandalism

Hi

I hope you don't mind me contacting you, just looking for a bit of advice here. I don't normally log on to the Transformers pages on here but happened to do so tonight because my friend reported via MSN that one page in particular was being vandalised. I logged on, found all the page had been removed apart from the offensive language, so removed that and re-saved the page as blank until I could locate the most recent edit. By the time I'd managed to do that though you'd managed to locate the most recent edit and had returned the page to it's former glory.

The user logged on anonymously so I've sent a message direct to their IP address talk page asking them not to make pointless edits and not to swear. Because of the high level of vandalism I've added the page to my watchlist now so will keep an eye on it for future vandalism. Just wondering if there's anything else I could have or should have done?

Also I notice now that the topic is semi-locked. Is that something us plain editors can do or does that have to be done by a moderator?

Many thanks for taking the time to read this!

--5 albert square (talk) 23:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Grindor

y did u delete the image if its him AcesUpMaSleeve (talk) 00:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

That's not Grindor, it's the unnamed Decepticon who captured the Witwickys in France. Grindor was dead by the time that scene occured. The character looks like a Barricade clone. Mathewignash (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

ROTF Video Game Cast

Follow this link. The credits occur in the middle of the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGcU6Zvw4Ms&feature=channel_page Rtkat3 (talk) 6:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Optimus hooks

I put it their because they seem to be made out of the same matter at the edges of his blades and on Optimus's page it says their energon blades so I just assumed they were energon hooks The Movie Master 1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC).

They are energon on his battle bio it says under key weapon that he likes to attack enemies with his dual energon blades snd his hooks are the smae material The Movie Master 1 (talk) 21:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Bold Clone

Will you please block Bold Clone from any further editing? He persists on deleting important information on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - Toy line and accuses all everyone of vandalism. Areaseven (talk) 01:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Mikaela Banes

I appreciate your looking out for this article and I know that you created it, but why did you revert to this old version of the article, with the exception of a bit of the wording I added to the lead and other stuff from a few other people? You seemed fine with it in the days after I tweaked it. Thus, why revert now?

My reasoning for changing it in the first place and reverting back to "my" version again just a few minutes ago is due to better formatting. The lead (intro) of the article should summarize the article and not be too short in proportion to the rest of the article. The lead of this article was not like that until I tweaked it. Not only that, but the main (and only, in this case) picture of the character was not at the top where it should be so that everyone sees what the character looks like right away (no matter how famous or well-known the character is). In addition to all this, most editors here do not consider "movie" to be an encyclopedic word; they prefer "film." This is why I changed it to "Film plot." And considering that she is not only in the 2007 film but also the 2009 film, and quite possibly the third film, it does not make sense to only have a section titled Transformers 2007 film for the plot, unless we are going to have two different sections about her roles in each film. That would be overkill, though, and is not needed. What she did in both films can fit into the one section titled Film plot. Flyer22 (talk) 02:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Will you talk this over instead of simply reverting me? I know what I am talking about. If you are not willing to let me improve the article in the way that it should be on Wikipedia, I will bring other editors in on this matter to discuss it. Flyer22 (talk) 22:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I've taken it to the talk page, and will ask other editors who have been working on the Transformers articles to weigh in. Flyer22 (talk) 22:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit dispute on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

Hi. I'm writing this to all frequent contributors to the article on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. It happens that there's this guy BIGNOLE, who was the one who intended to replace the plot with a pamphlet-like overview of the movie. Well now he has popped again, deciding that random information has to be removed (namely the appearance of Frenzy's head, and the appearance of a Buffalo mine-sweeping vehicle -Bonecrusher's alt mode in the 2007 movie- among the Decepticons in Egypt). This guy first removed both of these calling WP:OR on them, but has changed the story several times in the course of the discussion. My main concern with him is that he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He doesn't know the characters, and has shown to ignore major background plot points about the story, so it really bugs me him popping in whenever he likes and chopping off the info he doesn't regard as important just because he is on Wikipedia:Wikiproject Films. Please take a look at the discussion here and make yourself heard. It's kinda tiresome being the only one who seems to care, seeing as people discuss around, but just sit and watch whenever there's real decissions to be made. I won't care if you end up taking sides against me. Make yourself heard. uKER (talk) 06:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Arcee

She is a spy if you look under personality on their battle bio's it says their funtion at the top The Movie Master 1 (talk) 19:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Wreckers

I have nominated Category:Wreckers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Wreckers (Transformers) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Occuli (talk) 20:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Blackout

See this. --uKER (talk) 01:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

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Transformers movie character pages

I am aware that my Transformers movie individual character pages are being deleted and reverted because no consensus was met. Since people don't seem to be saying much on the issue, how do I hold an actual vote for/against the move? --Eh! Steve (talk) 19:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

There is a way to propose a page movement on wikipedia. Perhaps you should ask a moderator to make that proposal. Mathewignash (talk) 19:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Which admins do you know are good to consult on Transformers pages then? There's too many... --Eh! Steve (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

He's not Transformers related, but User:Ricky81682 helped me once with procedures. Maybe he can help you. Mathewignash (talk) 19:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.--Eh! Steve (talk) 19:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Still no reply, know any others? --Eh! Steve (talk) 03:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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Still got a problem with Transformers character pages

Hi, I re-made my changes to the pages Optimus Prime and Megatron. Although I do know that the pages are mostly about the G1 incarnations of the characters due to page length issues, the non-disambiguated names of the articles imply that the articles are about the characters in general, not the G1 incarnations as they are currently.

However, the articles only acknowledge very, very briefly at the end that other incarnations of the characters exist.

On the other hand, the page on Spider-Man is mainly about his comic-book incarnation. However, the page has an "other media" section that gives a link to the Spider-Man in other media page, similar to the "Other incarnations" sections of the Transformers pages, and also gives brief details on Spidey's other media appearances. This is despite the fact that, for example, the movie version of Spidey is in a different continuity from the normal comic version, just as the different versions of Optimus are in separate continuities.

I therefore find that the Transformers pages should do the same in order to preserve neutrality and to go a bit better with the article names, although I do acknowledge that it was a bit much when I put the image of the ROTF poster on Prime's page. If you disagree with this, I'd appreciate any help with how to make it not seem as if the G1 characters are the "main" and "superior" versions of the characters. Thanks!--Eh! Steve (talk) 15:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

• Hello! I know that you have an interest to the Transformers. So do I. We are mates, indeed. And I dare to ask you to help me with my problem (if you wish, of course). Please, write me to my talk page if you agree to help me. Excuse for my non-Oxford English. User:He-l-en1959--Mirabella Star 15:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

• Answer me, please! User:He-l-en1959--Mirabella Star 16:26, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I actually agree that the style could be improved. Either by making the page about all the Transformers of one name in the first few lines, or by making the main page a Disambig page, and putting all the characters on seperate pages. Mathewignash (talk) 04:24, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

• Hi! I am making a new "List of Transformers: Armada episodes" (much more short and looking like a table). But I need the help of a connoisseur of the Transformers. I know you as such an expert and ask you to help me. You will greatly oblige me if you help me to find the data about the original airdate of the each of the "Armada" episodes and about the "Production #" of each one. Or you may simply tell me where I can find all these tricks myself. I wait for your answer. Thank you in advance. User:He-l-en1959--Mirabella Star 15:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Here - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/List_of_Armada_episodes Mathewignash (talk) 18:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you very much User:He-l-en1959--Mirabella Star 13:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

"One image per character is justified"

The article is about one character. Therefore, it should have one image. However, I have stretched to two because of the importance of the 2007 movie. Any further images need to pass all ten criteria of WP:NFCC, and these clearly don't. Black Kite 17:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I had this talk with man admins before, and we all came to the conclusion that these guys are 5 different characters from different TV series who shared a name. One pic EACH was allowed (plus the free image of the car). Mathewignash (talk) 17:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Could you point out this conversation, please, as if an admin did say that, they were wrong. WP:NFC and NFCC are very clear that multiple non-free images in list articles are deprecated. I removed the free image by mistake, and have left it in now.Black Kite 17:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

This was over a year ago, I don't have a link. What makes you think that Beast Wars Inferno, G1 Inferno and the movie Inferno are the same characters? They look different, have different personalities, different abilities, etc. Limited it to ONE is rediculous. Mathewignash (talk) 17:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

• I'll be quite clear about this - if you continue to revert articles to re-insert non-free images against our image policies, you may be blocked. Black Kite 17:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Please STOP and let me look up the conversation before you remove more pics. Thanks Mathewignash (talk) 17:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

OK - I would be interested to see it. Black Kite 17:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

If they're different characters, why do they share an article? J Milburn (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Simply for convienance sake. Sometimes when a page justifies it by being too large we do split the page into two or three (like Starscream or Bumblebee). Two character share a name on occasion. This is because HASBRO owns trademark on certain names and recycles their use every few years to keep ownership of them. However, no one has ever argued that they are the same person. Mathewignash (talk) 18:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

If they are different characters, they should not be listed together just because they share a name. This is a terrible idea. If characters are to be listed, they should be listed by media (as in, list of characters in X series or list of characters in Y film) not because they happen to share a name. J Milburn (talk) 13:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Policy

Removing all the ones that fail any criteria of WP:NFCC, notably WP:NFCC#1, WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8. Black Kite 02:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

1. 1 is not a concern, we have established there is NO non-free replacement. Neither is #8 a concern as an article ABOUT a character would certainly seem to have a picture of them be relivant. As for #3a, minimal usage only seems to apply if one picture could cover for another. I agree with this. If I had one picture of the Beast Wars Inferno TOY in "robot" mode, and another of the Beast Wars Inferno toy in ant mode, then I could replace them with a single picture. Additionally I could even see that I don't need a picture of THE SAME character as a toy, from a comic book, and in a TV series. However, you have done nothing to prove that one character's picture can adequitely replace another because they are different characters with the same NAME. What does a picture of a heroic robot fire truck from a 1984 TV series tell us about a evil ant pyromaniac from a 1992 TV series exactly? Mathewignash (talk) 02:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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Inferno (Transformers)

I'm not sure what you want here. The images were removed because it had been reviewed and the images were deemed inappropriate- you then add the images back without any explanation, but add back the tag, saying the article needs reviewing? Are you aware of the ridiculousness of that action? J Milburn (talk) 13:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The article needs talk about the pictures. That's what I'm going for. Thanks! Mathewignash (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Mrbean1000

Please don't reissue final warnings. You have already issued three final warnings for this user, and he has even been blocked. In the future, if he gets back at it, the thing to do is file a request for administrator intervention on vandalism. I had just filed one and it got denied because the user hadn't vandalized after "the last final warning" (yours). --uKER (talk) 21:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, I finally got him indefinitely blocked. For the procedure, see my report here. --uKER (talk) 00:07, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

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Blackout/Grindor

What is with this edit in which you added stuff about Blackout's parts being used to rebuild Megatron and make him "indistructible"? --uKER (talk) 22:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was reverting some fanfic nonsense, and didn't revert to the right line. Mathewignash (talk) 00:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Good thing. I had worried for a minute there. --uKER (talk) 01:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Transformers

I get that you're a fan of the franchise, but you really go way too far with these characters. You attempt to save the most minor of characters, you stonewall any attempts at improving the ones that should be kept, and you generally seem to treat this as a fansite. You just are not in line with the policies and guidelines of this site. At most, ten or fifteen of the characters need articles. The rest need to be placed into their proper lists and improved from there. I really suggest that, if you don't already, you start editing the [Tranformers wiki in conjunction with this one. Work on the main articles here instead of bothering with the characters, and then use the other wiki to fill in information on the characters. TTN (talk) 00:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I think we will disagree on this one. Just post your opinions, I'll post mine, and let the mods and members voice opinions. Mathewignash (talk) 01:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

This isn't about agreeing and disagreeing. This is about how to properly manage information on this site. WP:N requires secondary sources to provide "signifcant coverage" for all articles, and the majority of these characters cannot possibly even begin to reach that point. The main characters are filled with plot information, original research, trivia, and other unnecessary details that need to be summed up much more briefly. You obviously don't like that, which is why I'm suggesting that you leave the character information for the Transformers wiki and just focus on getting something like one of the animated series to featured article status or something. TTN (talk) 01:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Bonecrusher dog

The dog is already mentioned here. Why is it that you keep adding it back? Besides, it doesn't make any sense to create a RotF section just to say "in RotF there's a dog called the same as this robot". --uKER (talk) 21:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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I have reported you for violation of the three revert rule. --uKER (talk) 01:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Bonecrusher - Seeing Double

I am with you. I think that the Bonecrusher look-alike in RotF is Bonecrusher from the '07 film. BUT there is no evidence to support that they are the same character. AT LEAST YET. There is a discussion on Bonecrusher's page and on the Transformers Wiki Project page. I am going to return the page to say that the RotF version is a look alike. Unless you have some evidence to support that they are the same, don't change it back.

Also, Jungle Bonecrusher is not an adequate example of evidence in this case as even if the character in RotF is Bonecrusher, he doesn't appear as Jungle Bonecrusher.

Perhaps when the DVD comes out, a commentary will provide evidence. But unless there is a source, we don't know and we can not claim that it is. Please do not continue to fight it without evidence.--TriPredRavage (talk) 02:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

• Okay, I can't edit it back because of the current lock. BUT you still don't have any evidence to support that they are the same character. If you find some, please submit it. Once the lock is removed, I will be returning it to claim he is a look alike. In the mean time, let's clear up this stuff about the dog. I don't know why these guys are being so difficult about it...--TriPredRavage (talk) 03:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd offer the wording " a Decepticon appearing to be Bonecrusher can be seen driving" I'm not saying it is him, but it APPEARS like him. Is that acceptable? Mathewignash (talk) 13:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

• Unortunately, no. The reason is because that wording still implies that it is in fact Bonecrusher. The wording must be specific in identifying that the character resembles Bonecrusher, but may not be Bonecrusher. Something along the lines of "A Decepticon resembling Bonecrusher can be seen driving along..." or as I had worded it "a Decepticon sharing Bonecrusher's alt mode..." because this phrasing is specific in stating that while the character does look like Bonecrusher, it is unclear if it really is.--TriPredRavage (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

• If we mention that he resembles Bonecrusher, but also mention he is unidentified, it would be acceptable.--TriPredRavage (talk) 21:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

With the security being lifted from the page, I have updated the article as per our agreement. Please read it over and see if you approve of the wording. If not, we can come up with a more appropriate alternative.--TriPredRavage (talk) 01:38, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• That's cool. Just glad it's all cleared up. Now for the dog...--TriPredRavage (talk) 12:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Frenzy's decapitated head

Just because Frenzy's head is seen doesn't mean that he is apart of the movie.He is not moving talking or doing anyhting like that.--User:Anesleyp (talk) 21:01, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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(Paramount) forks

See the comments I made at Eh! Steve's talk page. The "solution" is not to create another cruft-laden collection of plot summary, but rather to trim all the trivia and meaningless minutiae from the base article. Please don't restore those articles. Despite your years at Wikipedia, it's clear your grasp of WP:WAF, WP:GNG, WP:RS, and WP:PLOT are still tenuous. --EEMIV (talk) 02:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Megatron page

Hi, I see that you reverted my edits to the Megatron page. I was actually trying to fix it in the ways that User:EEMIV mentioned by deleting irrelevant information and details, and getting rid of informal language ("soon brought back the great slag-maker for more adventures", etc.). It appears that the article (as well as other G1 articles) has become too long, and I'm trying to cut it down. I'll revert your edits, and if there's important information that I might have gotten rid of by accident then you can re-add it. Thanks. --Eh! Steve (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Barricade (Transformers). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Just a quick note, don't want you to get blocked. :) GrooveDog • i'm groovy. 13:37, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I've posted to the talk page and have been waiting for a response, but nothing of my edits is imporper. Mathewignash (talk) 13:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Mathewignash. Regarding your message at my talk, each project assesses differently, it's a bottom up approach not a top down approach. I'm not sure where you are looking, but I can't find the text you quote at Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Assessment. We don't currently assess images for importance beyond listing them as NA. That may change in the future. Hope that helps. Hiding T 04:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Hot Rod Transformers section transformers armada

Hi in Hot Rod (Transformers) you keep changing this details of : Hot Rod is the Japanese name for the Autobot, Hot Shot in the Japanese version of Transformers: Armada. Both characters share similarities in alternate modes, personality and eventual new leader of the Autobots until Optimus returned as seen in the animated series of Armada/Energeon/Cybertron. If you have watched the series you will when optimus is absent, his in command. Can we come to an agreement for this page. let me known Hasbro sp T 8:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Dunerunner-rotf.jpg

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Must delete evidence, huh, Dave? <rolleyes> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.78.69.200 (talk) 03:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

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Stop Changing

With all respect stop changing my edits, I'm a expert in transfromers & others because I worked in this major so pleasekeep my edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hasbro sp (talk • contribs) 12:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

F-15

Thanks for the message, I appreciate your enthusiasm for Transformers but you need to appreciate my role is to stop disruption to the encyclopedia and try not to let edit wars continue and to try and and water down disputes as best I can. I have tried to stop the continual bringing up of the subject particularly as it was only discussed a few days ago and it was decided we did not have a consensus. I was asked to provide an opinion and I did. I have also tried to understand both sides of the argument, the article is about a real aircraft and the related project have agreed a guideline on what can be included. With this in mind I came up with a compromise which would be acceptable to the aircraft project and would provide a mention of fictional likeness in popular culture. It would be appreciated if you could work with me on the compromise and perhaps provide reliable references that indeed these fictional F-15s are popular. You also need to appreciate that this is an article about a real aircraft and has been mentioned these likenesses are not notable to the aircraft. If you dont appreciate my efforts then perhaps I can get another admin to review my actions. MilborneOne (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

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RfD nomination of Reverse Convoy

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Devastator (ROTF)

There's nine constructicons that form Devy in ROTF. The normal 7, plus a bulldozer and a dump truck that help fill out the left limbs. Source: the movie itself, clear as day. Also, why do the balls need their own section?209.106.203.252 (talk) 05:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The official number given by the movie is 7. Criticism of the character should be seperate from film plot. Mathewignash (talk) 05:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The point is, the movie itself uses 9. And the balls commentary is just too long for what its worth. Integration into the main section (which is different from the plot section) is perfectly dandy. but not a separate subsection. Not good for organization209.106.203.252 (talk) 05:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Barricade alive now?

What's got into you? So you're now fanboy-campaigning for Barricade being alive too? Also, your argument about "having to assume death so by default he is alive" is ridiculous. The last time he was seen he was seen convulsing on the ground after Bumblebee pummeled him, so it's you who has to give any proof for him being alive. --uKER (talk) 20:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure you remember properly? We clearly see him later in the film TWICE! Once responding to Starscrewam, and again to Mission City. He was alive at his last appearance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Z-8u6K4Qw Mathewignash (talk) 21:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, now that scene also says Blackout is alive. Are you gonna switch over on that too and start making up stuff saying that people calling the helicopter Grindor is a conspiracy or something? It also says the tank is named Devastator. Are you gonna say the tank somehow mutated into the thing in the second movie? That scene is a mess. Can't take it as a basis for anything. --uKER (talk) 02:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I've never switched. Barricade always survived. They cut his death scene from the final take. That scene is from before Blackout was killed, but it's AFTER Bumblebee defeated Barricade. So Barricade survived the early fight with Bumblebee. According to all supporting fiction says Barricade survived too. This isn't a contraversy like Blackout or Bonecrusher. Also, the Devastator thing is an admitted mistake in the film, the film makers said so. Mathewignash (talk) 03:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

You're right about Blackout. I haven't seen anything truly indicading Barricade being alive though. In any case, it would be just as controversial or more than Bonecrusher, who SEEMED to appear in Revenge of the Fallen. --uKER (talk) 06:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

With Barricade we don't see him die, the last time he's on the screen he's healthy. The writers said they deleted his death scene from the film because they wanted to use him again. No Barricade parts were seen bein thrown in the ocean. The followup toy line, comics, 2 novels and the Hasbro web site all say Barricade survived and is spying on the Autobots. Where is ANY source saying he's dead? Mathewignash (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Screwup

Just a mispaste from me. Sorry about that. --User:Woohookitty ^{Disamming fool!} 00:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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Sources

I appreciate what you've done with the Aircraft in Fiction article, but I count about 29 references that do not pass WP:RS. I took the question to the RS noticeboard and one editor disagreed with me about one of them. The others have not passed anyone elses inspection. I thought I'd give you a couple of days to see if you could come up with some other sources before the entries get removed. Niteshift36 (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

What specific sites do you not consider legitimate sources? For instance www.bwtf.com is a site written by Benson Yee, who is a published writer and script consultant who has worked for animation companies, Hasbro and Michael Bay concerning Transformers. He's considered a pretty legitimate source in my book. Mathewignash (talk) 00:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

• Even if we give Ben a pass, Counter-x.net, TFU.info, cliffbee.com, cobraislandtoys.com, tgr59ca.tripod.com/gobotscharacterepisodeguide/, robot-japan.com, gamespot.com, toyarchive.com, vimeo.com, mastercollector.com all fail RS. Concordesst.com is debateable. Also, in a couple of instances, you used other wikipedia articles as a ref and that is a definate non-no. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)