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Hello, Marthature, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask at the help desk, or place {{Help me}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to help you get started. Happy editing! KylieTastic (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please help me with... Hello - I have written a biography of a living person. The article checks every box. The person is noteworthy. The livelink citations are legitimate. Ditto the footnotes. I would like to post it to Wikipedia, sometime before the man dies - he's going to be 88 in May and he's recovering from Covid-19. But smart as I am, I am overwhelmed by all the gates and halts and information I find in creating a Wikipedia article. Can someone help me figure out how to submit this article for review? Thank you. Marthature (talk) 18:03, 13 April 2022 (UTC) Marthature (talk) 18:03, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You should use the Article wizard to create a draft page, which will be reviewed by experienced editors after submission. WP:YFA has thoughts about article creation, WP:CHEATSHEET is your friend for formatting issues, and WP:REFB is great for referencing. If you want more help, change the {{help me-helped}} back into a {{help me}}, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 18:14, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Marthature (talk) 18:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Bobby Black has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Bobby Black. Thanks! McClenon mobile (talk) 20:33, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bobby Black (musician) (April 15)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Lopifalko was:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
"Sources" appear wholly or predominantly to not support claims made in the article but instead be WP:PROMO links.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Lopifalko (talk) 05:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Marthature! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Lopifalko (talk) 05:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you coming back...

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...to Bobby Black? The gist of comments is that he is notable, but that the draft needs lots of work. Sentences such as "Initially Black thought the Cody band was not a good fit. But Stein persisted, and Black joined the band, transforming it from a bar band to a highly polished and professional troupe of musicians." have no reason to be in the article. David notMD (talk) 10:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am coming back to it when I fulfill the list of requirements. Marthature (talk) 12:15, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived

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Hello Marthature. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Marthature. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Marthature|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 12:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what gives you the impression that I have an undisclosed paid interest in this article. I DO NOT HAVE ANY UNDISCLOSED PAID INTEREST IN THIS ARTICLE. Marthature (talk) 12:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, it was just that your user page says "Skills include investigative journalism, research and writing". Theroadislong (talk) 12:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So having those skills translates in your mind to having a paid interest? I can not follow your logic here. Marthature (talk) 12:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You need to explain to me what gives you the impression that I have a paid interest in this matter. I am insulted, shocked, and appalled. I have no idea what your thought processes are, but you need to give me an explanation. Marthature (talk) 12:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your draft Draft:Bobby Black (musician) was extremely promotional in tone and gave me the impression that you had some sort of connection to the topic, you have made it clear that you do not, have agood day. Theroadislong (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bobby Black (musician) (June 7)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.
Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly and verifiably has been released to the world under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license or into the public domain and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure. Note to reviewers: do not leave copyright violations sitting in the page history. Please follow the instructions here.
You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
Can you please point out to me the phrases or sentences in my draft Bobby Black article that you state are copyrighted? I know that quotations are permitted, and I have quotations in quotes. But I do not see that I have used as my own words anything that is under someone else's copyright. I have the draft in front of me. (I also see that someone has edited it to create a non-sentence in the second paragraph. That needs to be fixed. There is also an ungrammatical sentence in the Career section, which needs editing.) I look forward to your response. Marthature (talk) 12:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there - I haven't yet received a reply from you to my question of June 9, 2022. I am sure you are very busy. Nevertheless, so am I very busy and I am eager to improve this article about Bobby Black if you will show my what you deem is paraphrasing too closely, copying and pasting, etc. Because you must know that I do not see any such phrases in my piece and therefore must ask again that you show me what they are. It's your criticism, not mine. Marthature (talk) 15:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bobby Black (musician)

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Information icon Hello, Marthature. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Bobby Black (musician), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bobby Black (guitarist) (November 13)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Much of this is unsourced.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Greenman (talk) 21:02, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Bobby Black (musician)

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Hello, Marthature. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Bobby Black".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 16:28, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Liz - You will find that I have in fact submitted a revised draft of the Bobby Black article. And received another critique saying it was inadequate. And asked the reviewer what it was s/he found unsourced, when I meticulously sourced the piece. Please keep it in queue and have someone reply to my sincere questions. Thank you. Martha Ture at marthature@sbcglobal.net 174.83.57.254 (talk) 19:55, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bobby Black (guitarist)

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Information icon Hello, Marthature. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Bobby Black (guitarist), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 14:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Bobby Black (guitarist)

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Hello, Marthature. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Bobby Black".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 21:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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