User talk:MarnetteD/archive69

Barnstar

		The Civility Barnstar
		I have noticed that you are cool under pressure, unstintingly polite and are one of the more diplomatic editors around. It’s a breath of fresh air! Thank you. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 01:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Aussie Article Writer. You are most kind and I do appreciate this. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 04:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Clara Bow

Hello, I'm noticing that you're keep changing the picture of the infobox of the activos of Clara Bow and deleting the birth name. I want to know the reasons of why you're keep doing this. The pic needs to be change because it's to small for the Infobox and the birth name also needs to be in the Infobox too.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.141.139.152 (talk) 19:03, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Clearly the pic is not too small. The documentation for the birth name field states "Name at birth; only use if different from name" Adding a middle name is not different it is just longer. The field is meant to be used in cases like Kirk Douglas or Michael Caine where there birth name is entirely different from the name they are known by. MarnetteD|Talk 20:54, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

More music

You archive too fast, and I'm too lazy for a new thread: more music, cello sonatas and a new song about a feast - a dear family member remembered today when she would have been 122 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda Arendt and happy memories for her 122nd. Fascinating info. As I grow older I appreciate Antonio more and more. When I visited Venice many years ago it did change his music for me. After that I hear water lapping against stone as I listen to it. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 17:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

August songs

Thank you! My 12th today, DYK? I decorated, also for a birthday. Songs invite to more music, places, food and flowers, - heard another Vivaldi yesterday, this time for two cellos, and no article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and congrats GA. The goldenrods are beautiful. I'm spending tomorrow with friends watching this treat from Glyndebourne. We are even having a picnic beforehand to replicate the full experience. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 16:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

That sounds lovely! - Today: 2 interesting DYK (I think), sadly 2 who died (on top of 2 from Poland yesterday), and a concert in which Daniel Barenboim just played piano, - and afterwards he and the orchestra received last year's prize (pictured). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda Arendt. It was nice to read and learn from everytrhing you linked to. It was 10 years ago tonight that I first head Isabel Leonard sing. I am spending the day watching various performances on YouTube and there sure are a lot of them available. Enjoy your week! MarnetteD|Talk 21:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

memories ... - thank you for sharing. If you click on August songs, you see what went on, and three more meetings with friends and a concert are planned for the next few days (just watch the page for updates, - memorable event 30 years ago on concert day with Tenebrae), - expect less of me here :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Have a marvelous time with friends and music Gerda Arendt!!! MarnetteD|Talk 21:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, pictured, sunflowers and butterflies continued! - Also today: 3 DYK, including that the author dedicated a summer story to a license plate number ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Fabulous work and pics GA. The license plate info is one of the most interesting DYK's I've read. MarnetteD|Talk 00:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! - Today: Giedrė Šlekytė. More pics to come but too tired ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

A friend sent me a link to this website Gerda. It links to productions from theatres all over Europe. So I get to save on airfare, ticket prices and accommodations which means I can buy a couple cases of my favorite champagne. I gonna need that many to watch all of those operas. MarnetteD|Talk 20:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you just listened to the Bregenz premiere of Nerone, live. - Today: Teresa Żylis-Gara, the second soprano to impress me on stage, died, - long live the memory of her beautiful singing, remembered with thanks. 28 August 2013 was a special concert day: look. After Hillbillyholiday gave me a tree. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

So many things to learn about in this one post Gerda Arendt. The pic is particularly beautiful. Thanks for sharing. MarnetteD|Talk 21:19, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK that JackofOz and I worked together on the Polish songs? I because I heard her recording on radio? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

While I didn't know GA I'm not surprised. You are both talented editors whose value to the 'pedia cannot be easily measured. The benefit to readers is immense as well. MarnetteD|Talk 22:55, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Did you learn in my post that the tree was given to me in my greatest distress in the unspeakable wars? On 28 August, I was sure a valuable editor would be banned, and every drum hit in the orchestra supported. On 29 August, one of the arbs had changed his mind. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm back!! Almost. ;)

Hey, M. Long time not talking to you right? Quick question, do you think these are similar? Starkiryu64 (talk) 09:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Welcome back Starkiryu64. I hope you've had a nice summer so far. Although the pics were removed I did take a look at them. I did see a faint resemblance but that could just be a coincidence. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 15:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

So, who do you think these two are? Starkiryu64 (talk) 18:11, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm following you Starkiryu64. Of course I recognize Tom Baker's 4th Dr. Put I haven't seen Sailor Moon so I don't know how much alike or different the two characters may be. Apologies for not being more helpful. MarnetteD|Talk 18:19, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

That's okay. I just telling you a question, alright? Starkiryu64 (talk) 18:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely alright S :-) I hope you have a delightful weekend! MarnetteD|Talk 18:25, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

You too, but here a surprise. Starkiryu64 (talk) 18:46, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Very nice. Many thanks S. Here are a couple links about Dr Who trivia that I've recently read - this website and this one. While I no longer have the patience to do all this research on my own I am glad that others do :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi again S. This morning I found this gem. Must be nice to have the cash to indulge your hobby :-) MarnetteD|Talk 16:41, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Reference Desk Question

I notice you remove my question from the reference desk. Do you know of any better place to ask it? Your edit summary seems to suggest that you do know of somewhere.

Also, is there any way to rephrase it to avoid debates? 86.134.21.173 (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

I didn't remove it I restored the hatting and no there isn't a better way to phrase it. Try googling for chat rooms. MarnetteD|Talk 20:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

On you closing my discussion

Why did you do it? I'm a bit confused as to why, given that it's a legitimate question on alternate history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurritoQuesadilla (talk • contribs) 05:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @BurritoQuesadilla: As it says at the top of the page, we don't answer requests for opinions, predictions or debate. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Redrose64. BQ I'm sure there are other chat rooms that you can ask speculative questions like that. MarnetteD|Talk 16:01, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Flyer22 SPI

Hello Marnette,

The SPI is about Flyer22 being alive; perhaps I should have said that in the SPI notice. Would you restore the notice and perhaps add that comment? Kolya Butternut (talk) 00:07, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Easy answer is no. Second answer is absolutely not. How you have the gall to do this is beyond me. MarnetteD|Talk 00:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Your birthday was on Tuesday the 3rd.

Dear Michael,
So sorry. I forgot your birthday a week ago last Tuesday.
Hoping that you had a good celebration.
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much Gareth Griffith-Jones. It turned out to be a very nice day - helped by a 15 degree temp drop. I spent the evening with friends watching an opera from Glyndebourne. Best regards to you always. MarnetteD|Talk 22:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

comment

FWIW, re: this, IMO it doesn't make any difference whether the accusation turns out to be true or not, or whether we ever know. The issue is that without being able to publicly show evidence, one shouldn't make a public accusation, and in this case it's not appropriate to show public evidence. Which means the accusation should have remained private, too. I don't think your objection to that is anything that needs to be apologized for, no matter how this all turns out. JMO. However this turns out, I don't actually think you did anything wrong. —valereee (talk) 12:23, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Valereee. I very much appreciate you taking the time to leave this message. Have a great week. MarnetteD|Talk 16:45, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Re:

I guess I'll have to dig up the pawn ticket for my decoder ring. Thanks for the clean up. Tiderolls 12:57, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

That is great Tide rolls. I can't remember where I got the metal one I had but it was much better than the plastic one that was in a box of Cracker Jacks :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:49, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

25 centuries, not just decades

• The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. (Socrates)

Best . -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 00:52, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks JackofOz I hope you are well. I came within a whisker of typing centuries but didn't have a WP:RS. Now thanks to you I do :-) Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 00:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

I am very well, thanks. Actually I'm rather glad that crossing one's legs is no longer the shocking social crime it apparently once was. :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 00:58, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

User:MarnetteD, User:JackofOz - Is that saying reliably attributed to Socrates? I doubt it. I am more inclined to assume that it was reliably attributing it to Plato attributing it to Socrates, but most of what Plato attributes to Socrates is really Plato's own work. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:22, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Well, it seems it was much, much later than that. It was as late as 1907, to be precise; from the pen of a man named Kenneth John Freeman, who was paraphrasing various complaints from ancient times. See [1]. Sorry for spreading misinformation. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

No worries JackofOz and my thanks to you Robert McClenon for spurring JoO's deeper research. I've always found that to be one of Wikipedia's strengths. One person has learned X - another has learned Y and knows that X is problematic. Further research ensues and, together, we get to Z. Jack I was a bit worried that the crossing of the legs had to do with wearing togas but I doubt KJF ever had one on - yikes - that joke is almost rude enough for one of the ref desks :-P Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Heh. As I'm sure you know, the internet is replete with quotes, most of which seem to be misattributed to an elite crowd including Oscar Wilde, Mark Twain, Winston Churchill, Buddha, Shakespeare, Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein and a few others. It makes a refreshing change to have a misattribution involving a new face. In my defence, I didn't know any better. After all, I read about Socrates' quote on ... the internet. What more is there to say? :) Best. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Great stuff Jack Thanks for bringing a smile to my day! MarnetteD|Talk 22:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Not About Lana Rhoades

I infer that you have my talk page watchlisted, or are otherwise watching it. I had been about to ask you not to remove stupid messages, because I still get the email notification, and then if the message is removed, I have to read the history to see what the stupid message was. However, I see that in this case, the stupid message was a single top-posted letter at the top of my talk page, and that might have confused ClueBot, who is archiving my talk page. So I guess thank you, and maybe the stupid IP will go hide under a bridge. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

ClueBot III would have ignored it, because that odd letter was outside the {{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Robert McClenon I regularly remove trolling but I;m glad you took the time to explain why I shouldn't revert on your page. Redrose64 thanks for explaining this situation. Best regards to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 18:20, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Pinto Colvig

That was not snark. I think your retort was though. So the clique is stalking me? .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Your use of bold lettering is snark. Responding to an IP post from 2010 is a meaningless waste of time. I have no idea what clique you are referring to. MarnetteD|Talk 04:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Kenneth Williams.

Hello, no I can't. I know the information's true. If you are familiar with the actor's voice, and watch the monent when Terry Thomas steps off the plane, you'll hear Williams' very distinctive voice come from a reporter who, a few moments later, speaks with his real one, when he says "Yeah, but...", an expression Williams never used, anyway. So, the career-curio shall just have to be lost forever. There's nothing that can be cited. Nothing to refer to. And trivia of great importance to fans is often laughably inconsequential to others, so what the one has never noticed before, and the other doesn't care about, what I know is absolutely true shall just have to sink to the unproveable ocean bed's floor. There should be a facility perhaps to record such observations:- 'Asserted Observations', perhaps? Any such title. A consensus could be reached, and debate encouraged. Just now, all we have is a god-like hand which, if not properly reverenced, erases truth which cannot prove itself to be true from existence. Still, there it is, for as long as it lasts, in the Kenneth Williams' Edit History, should someone encounter it. Regards. Heath St John (talk) 12:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Heath St John. All information added to wikipedia articles has to have a WP:RX. Your observation is WP:OR and WP:SPECULATION. I am not saying you are wrong and you are free to note what you feel about this at other places on the web like a facebook page. I am sorry about this but that is just the way things work here. MarnetteD|Talk 12:37, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Don Collier

Hi! I’ve just learned that Don Collier passed away at 9.05am this morning in Kentucky. It was announced by Terry Bomar, who was a minister and friend of Don’s. His Facebook page link is here - https://www.facebook.com/twbomar - for you to confirm. I’d edit the page but not 100% on all the coding.

Kindest regards

Heidi Heidi bradshaw (talk) 15:58, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Heidi bradshaw. I am not sure why you contacted me about this. Please be aware that a facebook posting is not considered a WP:RS. Also you will need to adjust the information in the infobox. You can ask for help at the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 18:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I only sent the message because you were be of the last people to edit the page! Sorry I bothered you! 🤬 Heidi bradshaw (talk) 18:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

No problem Heidi bradshaw. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD|Talk 19:42, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Yes, I know; it's a shame. There should be a 'Wiki-claim', or some such title, page, or Site, so those few of us who don't use p.c., government thought-control sites like Facebook, (all abasing themselves under the relatavist tyranny of Google's ten commandments), could use to explore contributor's as-yet unproved claims. Thanks. Heath St John (talk) 12:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)