User talk:MarnetteD/archive55

216.152.191.218

I rolled back a whole bunch of those edits; there may be more. Is this someone we know? Update: holy moly this goes back a long way. Drmies (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

• And do you have the "rollback all" tool? Drmies (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Drmies. The edits are familiar but I'm not sure of who it might be. Bambifan101 (talk · contribs) always springs to mind but there have been numerous imitators over the years. To your second question I don't have that tool. My computer skills never advanced much beyond WYSIWYG back in the late 80's. Thanks for you message and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

I just saw that Ponyo has blocked this editor Autumnleaves646 (talk · contribs) for socking. Considering that persons edits were also about categories (see this thread Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film#Categories: Films about foo) they might be related. Or maybe not but I thought it worth mentioning. MarnetteD|Talk 23:48, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

User:Writ Keeper, if MarnetteD wants it, can you help with mass rollback? I believe this was your invention, was it not? MarnetteD, it's a real easy thing to use. Ponyo, this IP is likely not one of them, is it? Drmies (talk) 00:13, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies: They're editing from different continents. There are a few masters who are category obsessed (remember CensoredScribe?) and the Disney slant does come off as Bambifan but the geolocation doesn't align. --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Sure, that was me. It's pretty easy to install; just go to your common.js page and create it with text reading: mw.loader.load("/w/index.php?title=User:Writ_Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");. When you do that, there should be a new button or tab at the top of a user contributions page that reads "rollback all"; click that and it'll roll back all the edits in that contribs list that can be rolled back (it only rolls back the edits listed on the page, so if there are more than are listed, it'll stop there). Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 12:32, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at things Ponyo. Thanks to you as well Writ Keeper for providing the expertise on the coding. Finally thanks to you Drmies for organizing all of this. MarnetteD|Talk 17:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

And everyone lived happily ever after. Softlavender (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Anytime I get WritKeeper to show up it's a party. If I'd known it would be like this I'd have broughg that lemon meringue pie. Drmies (talk) 22:56, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Lemon meringue pie Yum Yum :-P MarnetteD|Talk 23:07, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

MarnetteD thank you for being here for me. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 18:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

You are most welcome PBA. MarnetteD|Talk 18:29, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Poppy Harlow

Hi, I would like to re-confirm with you about the Poppy Harlow article. Firstly, this portrayal is REAL. It is also not a minority belief. It is truly IN POPULAR MEDIA, in this case, Pewdiepie. This is not a complaint here, but “otbility” does not come up on any dictionaries. Clear that up for me? I would therefore like to reinstate the section back as this would clear the vandalism and is notable enough. I will also add the related references back. If you accept, I will return the page. Oshawott 12 (talk) 09:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Oshawott 12, No need to SHOUT. Try "notability" instead. That works.
In other words, your addition is not referenced and furthermore, it adds no value even if it could be. Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} 09:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

oh thanks really had no idea. think that would clear things up for the pewds fans thou right? @Gareth Griffith-Jones I will add the references if I can publish the section again. Oshawott 12 (talk) 09:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

sorry for the capitals, too ;) Oshawott 12 (talk) 09:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Oshawott 12 please see my note on the talk page. The mention has to be noted in WP:SECONDARY sources. The mere fact that it exists is not sufficient. MarnetteD|Talk 14:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Gareth Griffith-Jones thanks for filling in while I was sawing logs. MarnetteD|Talk 14:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Are you expecting a chilly autumn? ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} 14:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Maybe G but it isn't here yet. Temps have been in the 90s for the last two weeks and leaves haven't even begun to change yet. Supposed to cool off this weekend. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I think I can prove it with a video, it is real Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

A video is a WP:PRIMARY source Oshawott 12 and will not be sufficient. I'll say it one last time - the fact that she is called that on his website is not sufficient for a mention in the article. MarnetteD|Talk 14:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Would this work? https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/30/17799440/pewdiepie-tseries-youtube-top-creator-subscribers-bollywood-india It mentions Poppy Harlow portrayed by Pewdiepie, as a secondary source. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

It only says that he plays a character named PH. It makes no mention of the real person at all so no it won't work. MarnetteD|Talk 14:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

It says “by discussing current events (as a character called Poppy Harlow)”. It’s on the 8th paragraph of the text, for TL:DRs. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 15:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes I read that. How would I have made my response otherwise? Perhaps you did not understand my post so I will say it again "It makes no mention whatsoever of the real Poppy Harlow" nor does she have any connection to his show. MarnetteD|Talk 15:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Isn’t “Poppy Harlow” her name? It’s a reference to her. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:04, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

PH is a name. There can be more than one person with the name. Your claim that it refers only to her is both WP:OR and WP:SYNTHESIS. MarnetteD|Talk 14:07, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

It is clearly referring to her, as shown in many of his videos. Please just accept it and let me move on with my edits. You're just not taking it at this point. Oshawott_12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

His videos are a WP:PRIMARY source and cannot be used. Please just accept that Wikipedia has policies and guidelines that I am following. The item does not belong in an encyclopedic article. You can certainly post your thoughts on your blog or Facebook page though. MarnetteD|Talk 04:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Interesting

Didn't expect they would answer this kind of question :) See —AE (talk • contributions) 08:53, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

I know what you mean AE. I saw that post just before heading of to dreamland. Once someone gets a bee in their bonnet it can be hard to predict what they will do. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 13:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Lounge TV

You are quite correct, there were no bare URLs on Lounge TV when I placed the tag. There was a problem in my mind, and now I have done some work on LoungeTV and I did some testing on Talk:Lounge TV. Please look again and tell me if either of the article references is better, or maybe some combination would be better. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 23:59, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your fine work on bare URLS. I once was very active on that effort, but I have moved on to other things, especially the Channel Islands, including Jersey.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dthomsen8. I replied on the talk page for the article by adding a further example. I appreciate your compliment very much. My thanks to you for all your work all over the 'pedia through the years. I've always wanted to visit Jersey since I first saw this series Lillie (TV series) back in college. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 00:16, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

My wife and I visited Jersey back in early June, a side trip from London, and three days was just enough to make me want to return, perhaps in March 2020. Check out The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, and the film adaptation, but the film was not shot in Guernsey. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendation Dthomsen8. Coincidentally I just got a notice about that film from Netflix yesterday so it is on the list. I just finished watching There is Nothing Like a Dame which is a complete joy. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:07, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Cake!?

File:Blood_Orange_Chiffon_Cake_with_Mango_Curd (Unsplash).jpg Qwerty number1 (talk) 21:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

That is kinda elaborate Qwerty number1 and looks tasty. Coincidentally I made a honey-orange cheesecake for tonight's BBQ. Thanks for dropping this pic off :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:34, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Template:The Big Bang Theory

I wasn't going to get involved in this but, regarding this edit summary, strictly speaking the template should be reverted to the version prior to the disputed edits per WP:STATUSQUO. Since AlexThe WHOVIAN's edits are the disputed changes, that should be this revision. To be fair, the IP/new editor is actually correct. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:37, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification AL MarnetteD|Talk 18:30, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

To be fair, that discussion went completely off-track very quickly so anyone was bound to be confused. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:35, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

That is a fact AL. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:40, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Hoax articles again?

Hi, I noted that The Truth About Jane And Sam II was recreated again and seemingly a hoax again. Can you take a look at that and the pages created by Idcactus3535 SFC VGCP as well? thanks --Xaiver0510 (talk) 02:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Xaiver0510. Drmies has already blocked the editor who created that article. While I can't look at the deleted article as far as I can tell (with some quick Google searches) all the other articles they created are hoaxes. You could slap some WP:G3 speedy delete tags on them and see what happens. If the speedies are rejected we will just have to send them to AFD. Now the block is for vandalism but if you can find whether the new editor is a sock of the one who created that article before then they can also be speedied as WP:G5. I am in the middle of another project at the moment but may have more time later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for your vigilance. MarnetteD|Talk 02:31, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Turns out I was typing too slowly. All the artices they created have been deleted. Cheers to everyone for thei quick actions. MarnetteD|Talk 02:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Turns out I was slow also! thanks for the guidance so I know what to do next time also! --Xaiver0510 (talk) 02:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome Xaiver0510. MarnetteD|Talk 02:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Mass delete is a wonderful thing. Drmies (talk) 02:38, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Absolutely :-) MarnetteD|Talk 02:41, 1 October 2018 (UTC)(←)

If Idcactus3535 SFC VGCP is busy creating hoax articles, an administrator should block them.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 03:01, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Their User page welcomes them, at least right now.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 03:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dthomsen8. If you check their contribution history you will see that they are blocked. This is also noted on their talk page here User talk:Idcactus3535 SFC VGCP#October 2018. Both of these happened earlier tonight (my time) so all is copacetic. Cheers and I hope you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 03:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Why I am labeling the “Americans of African descent” categories.

Why would Johnny Depp who is only of 3/2048ths “African” descent, so distant it’s virtually incalculable, in the same category of actual African-Americans who would be labeled as such? Therefore, wouldn’t “Americans of African descent” be for people with only a generally distant African ancestry or one known African ancestor from probably over 200 years ago while African-Americans are in the “African-American...” categories? That’s my logic behind it. The top of that page does say “Note: 'African Americans' are citizens of the United States of Black African ethnicity or ethnic descent — they are listed at Category:African-American people.” Trillfendi (talk) 01:13, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Your statement is WP:OR and WP:SYNTHESIS Trillfendi. Why 200 years? Why not 100 or 300? How in the world is anyone going to determine when a persons ancestors were or were not in Africa? BTW your statement would mean that everyone would belong in the cat since mankind's ancestry is to that continent. As it stands there are no such limits to the category in question. The only thing I can suggest is that you ask for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories. MarnetteD|Talk 01:57, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

200 was a random number obviously, but my hypothesis still stands. Anywho, I’ll take it over there as in the past 3 years two others have proposed the same theory on that page.Trillfendi (talk) 02:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

A Piraat for you!

Cheers! DonQuixote (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Yum Yum. Thanks DQ. MarnetteD|Talk 20:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

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External links

I'm a big fan of Criterion and frequently note their releases in film article Release sections, and borrow from their essays for Themes and Production sections. But please keep in mind they are a business. If essays are linked in the reference sections there is no reason they need to be redundantly listed in External links. That comes across as overkill, or advertising and WP:UNDUE. The fact that the opinions are "scholarly" doesn't detract from that. If the essays aren't referenced, they could be put in EL sections for future editors to use for sources. If they already are, I think it's best you give it a rest. Ribbet32 (talk) 04:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Ribbet32. Not every reader is going to click on every reference so they will be unaware of a given essay if it is only in that section. They will at least have a chance to know that it exists if it is in the ELs. Our film articles are replete with ELs that are also in the ref section (Rotten Tomatoes springs to mind) and there is no guideline at WP:MOSFILM restricting links to only one of those two sections. It also does not violate UNDUE as there are 955 CC releases at the moment and we have 100s of 1000s of film articles. I am not advertising their website anymore than the ELs advertise IMDb or TCM both of which link to sales items. Please note that I have taken part in previous discussions about the CC website over the years. Although there has not been one in quite some time the last consensus was that linking to the essays is fine while linking to the sales page is not. You will note that I am replacing any links to the sales page with one to an essay. Please also note that their website went through a major overhaul within the last couple years and many of our current links are dead so I am also replacing those with working ones. If you feel a new consensus is needed (since WP:CCC) I feel sure other editors would add their input at the Filmproject. Best regards and thanks for all of your editing here at the 'pedia. MarnetteD|Talk 05:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I should add that I understand where you are coming from Ribbet32. Many years ago I removed ELs that were also in the ref section and was told by more than one editor that there was no reason to not have them in both. MarnetteD|Talk 05:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I hope you are saving up for their Bergman box set that is coming out next month R. It looks magnificent. When they came out with their set of Kurosawa films in honor of his 100th I picked it up and have enjoyed viewing them more than once. It's only drawback is that there are no extras with the films. The Bergman set is going to include several juicy looking documentaries etc. You can save some money if you wait for the Barnes and Noble 50% off sale or one of the CC's flash 50% off sales. I feel sure you know about these but am mentioning them just in case. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 05:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

MP&THG

Speaking of Monty Python, supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. (Kind of apt, since Sweden currently has no government!)

I thought you'd find it amusing :-) Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 18:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Wow that is quite a coincidence Bonadea. Thanks for sharing that link and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:25, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Fez (That '70s Show)

Though I tend to agree with your removal, I'm not sure WP:BLP can be used as a basis. Fez is a fictional character. General Ization ^Talk 19:50, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Erp. I did not know that General Ization. Here I was thinking the furor over Bert and Ernie was the only place where this was happening. I guess we need a BLFP guideline :-) Thanks for the clarification. MarnetteD|Talk 19:55, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Shelly Manne "Notes/References" vs. "References/Bibliography"

Hi MarnetteD. I don't know where you got the idea that those Shelly Manne section headers have to be "References" and "Bibliography". All the MOS sections on those I've read say it can be either, "usually" "notes or references", etc. What MOS rule are you pointing to? I don't think "Bibliography" is appropriate here because it suggests a comprehensive list of works. --Alan W (talk) 04:33, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Alan W That articles layout is not like any other that I have seen. It threw me (and still does a bit) but that is my problem and not the articles. Thee notes are detailed and explanatory. It is just that in my working with reFill and reflinks I am so used to inline citations. Please remove the tag if you haven't already. Again congrats on taking such good care of the article. MarnetteD|Talk 04:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

OK, done. And now I see where you were coming from. About "References" vs. "Bibliography", etc., it is really mostly a matter of personal preference. According to MOS:NOTES: 'Title: Editors may use any section title that they choose. The most frequent choice is "References"; other articles use "Notes", "Footnotes", or "Works cited" (in diminishing order of popularity) for this material.' We've probably worked in very different areas. There are plenty of articles that do it the way I did it. And as I said, I think in this case there is a good reason for my choice. Oh, and thanks for the good words about the care I've taken. I put a lot of work into that article, so I get a little touchy when changes are made without a good reason. But now I understand. Your changes were made in good faith. You've been doing this almost as long as I have, and we both know the ropes. Just a misunderstanding.

What is "reFill", anyway? After all these years, I don't claim to know everything. :-) --Alan W (talk) 05:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Alan W. Thanks for the clarification. Refill is one of a couple tools that help to fill in bare urls. It helps this wikignome keep busy. Yep no matter how long we edit there is always something new to learn :-) I hope you have a pleasant Sunday. MarnetteD|Talk 05:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Yep, I just found it and was about to let you know. I see it's what used to be called Reflinks. I'll have to try it myself someday. You have a pleasant Sunday too. --Alan W (talk) 05:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

There is a different tool called User:Dispenser/Reflinks. I don't know the details but they have been through some changes over the years so the names get confusing Alan W. Between the two of them they get about 90% of bare urls. The rest get done by hand. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 05:33, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I see, thanks. reFill is a renaming of one "Reflinks", but there is another Reflinks too. I think I've got it now. Next time I notice a bare reference, I might want to take a crack at using one of them. Getting late in this time zone (two hours later than yours), so maybe I should think about getting some sleep if I want to wake up early enough to enjoy Sunday. Good night. --Alan W (talk) 05:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Pleasant dreams AW. zzzzzzzzzz. MarnetteD|Talk 05:46, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Jèrriais

Thank you for your good work on Jèrriais. Please tell me about the problematic generic reference. I want to fix this problem, but I am unsure what reference is the problem.

I started work on Jersey in 2017, I visited in June, I have bought 10 books on the Channel Islands, and I plan to continue work. The Queen continues the rule of the Dukes of Normandy begun well before the Battle of Hastings. Jersey is not part of England, nor even part of the United Kingdom, and is making its own decisions about Brexit.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Dthomsen8. If you click on the the link it just goes to Jersey's home page with some nice videos :-) It makes no mention of the 2009 agreement or any attempt to increase the use of the language. If you can find any info about that agreement on the web or at your library to add as a citation that should take care of things. Thanks for the mention of its independence - I appreciate you sharing your growing knowledge of the island with me. Cheers and I hope your week is a pleasant one. MarnetteD|Talk 14:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't get it. I go to Jèrriais, and edit the whole article, and search for "www.jersey.com" but I cannot find it. I am using the Windows Firefox browser, and search with "Find in this page..." without result. Even a search for "https" does not lead me to that generic webiste. I want to fix this problem, but I am unsure where that reference is the problem. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 16:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Please don't shout Dthomsen8. If you check the edit history you will find that I removed the link with this edit. That is why you cannot find it in the article. Now I know it looks different in that link but when you click on the old address <ref>http://www.jersey.com/english/aboutjersey/news/pages/default.aspx?itemid=a57de5e1-636e-48bf-bdd1-a727f1c09097&start=51</ref> it takes you to the Jersey website that I linked to in my first post. Again it has no info to support the paragraph that it had been used in. I hope this helps. MarnetteD|Talk 19:01, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I am the editor that I am shouting at, not you. Your reply helps a great deal, especially when I learn you already did the fix.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 21:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I misread things Dthomsen8. It is often a dilemma that - when I type responses - I fear I am leaving things out that would make the situation clearer. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

CB

I have read your comments on the Connie Booth article.The facts of her birthday can be verified PLEASE LOOK AT Companies house own website which she HERSELF has verified.Don't' you think she should KNOW HER own birthday you fool.Tell me who did put that information on Companies house website if not her.She is required by law to put any facts as accurate as possible the fact the birthday information is wrongRichardlord50 (talk) 18:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

You have obviously not read the policies that I have linked to. Your edit summaries are not a WP:RS nor are they WP:V. What is or is not required at that website has nothing to do with how info is stated here at Wikipedia. BTW your edits mean that there are 3 possible birth dates which is not helpful to the article. MarnetteD|Talk 18:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh and BTW you now need to read WP:NPA. MarnetteD|Talk 18:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Barnstars

Oh gosh. *blush*. Thank you. It genuinely made me go all mushy. I think there may be a much, much bigger problem behind it (as I mentioned to Oshwah on the Admin Noticeboard) but I'm not sure. But thanks for the surprise! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:09, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

You are most welcome Alexandermcnabb. You put in a ton of work and were thorough (more thorough than many would have been) in your work and that is really appreciated. I've been following the ANI thread and all I can say is Oy :-) Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk 15:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Judith Weir

Hello, I'd like to ask why you undid all of my changes to the article on Judith Weir? I spent a lot of time working on those changes to: 1) tidy up some typos 2) provide what I thought was some clarity about her operatic output 3) include her theatrical output 4) include additional significant works (ones I know her best for) 5) provide links to other Wikipedia articles for people who may want definitions of terms such as ICMS, Fellow, etc. 6) provide a source for the quotation about CONCRETE What are your objections to my changes? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marosc9 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

You have not read my link to WP:OVERLINK. Feel free to restore some of your other changes but please do not add overlinks. MarnetteD|Talk 22:43, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello again - Thanks for the explanation. I was rather concerned about having all of my changes removed in one go! I've read the link to WP:OVERLINK and shall bear what you say in mind. I'll undo your undo and then remove the overlinks. Thanks for replying so quickly as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marosc9 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Beethoven Symphonies 1, 3, 4, 6, 7 & 8

Hello again, I now notice that you've also undone all of my changes to the articles on six of Beethoven's symphonies. As with my changes to the article on Judith Weir these took a lot of work. Could you please explain your objections to my changes and your rationale for undoing them? Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marosc9 (talk • contribs) 22:53, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi! Just read you reply to my query about my changes to the Judith Weir article. I'm assuming the same applies for these articles as well so I'll follow your advice with them too. Thanks again for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marosc9 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome. Thank you for your understanding. MarnetteD|Talk 23:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for being helpful

Thanks for being so helpful while I was trying to sort out the reference at Miss Michigan Teen USA. Editing on mobile is still 90s-era difficult ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  07:41, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

It is still messed up CJinoz. Alexis Lubeck cannot be the 2019 winner since it is still 2018. In fact the whole list is a year off. Now if she is the 2018 Miss Michigan Teen winner who will be competing in the 2019 Miss Teen Pageant then the article should make that clear in the lede. MarnetteD|Talk 07:46, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

No, the article is fine. As with all the Miss USA & Teen USA pageants, the titleholder is crowned end of 2018 (or early 2019) with the 2019 title and competes at Miss USA/Teen USA 2019. It was pretty obvious that I had put the wrong date in the reference (I was struggling to edit on mobile as my cursor kept disappearing), would it have been so hard to simply fix the date in the reference? Being a collaborative project and all that. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  07:49, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Your answer is very WP:INUNIVERSE CJinoz so no the the article is not fine. How the hell is an reader with no knowledge of these pageants supposed to figure out how someone is the 2019 winner when it isn't 2019? As to your editing problems the "show preview" button exists to avoid mistakes like the ones you made. Also your edit summaries made no attempt to explain what was going on so I'm not sure how anyone would be able to collaborate. Other editors cannot read your mind. MarnetteD|Talk 07:57, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I’ll try to edit the article then, you know, be proactive and try to fix the problem. You’re the first person to bring it up in the decade + the 102 articles have been in existence. I was trying to use edit summaries but kept hitting edit conflicts. Usually I’d try to avoid editing from my phone but I was trying to undo the unintended harm you had done. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  08:01, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I did not do any "harm" to the article unintended or otherwise. Again since you dated your ref 2019 I was fixing the problem. BTW the article that you used as a reference does not state that she is the 2019 Miss Michigan Teen winner. Just because I am the first person to mention it does not mean that I am the first reader to be confused by the layout. MarnetteD|Talk 08:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

”Fixing it” it reverting to a line of TBAs that should never have been in the article in the first place. Yeah sure. Oh and from what I see I did use edit summaries, although they could have been more useful I guess. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  08:16, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps you did not read what I wrote above - I did not say you didn't use edit summaries I said they did not explain what was going on. As to the TBA's they were added to the article on Sept 21st so they seemed to be okay for for the last five weeks. Since you seem to want to keep on digging I'll ask that you not post here again about this. I will say thanks for your editing here at the 'pedia and have a pleasant weekend in spite of this kerfuffle. MarnetteD|Talk 08:30, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me replying one final time - I promise I'm not attempting to dig any more and instead hoping we can work together to sort this out. I should have just left your initial reversion in place til I was home and could edit properly rather than doing things by half measures. Now that I'm actually back on my laptop I've fixed up the reference and I've attempted to make the 2018/2019 thing less fuzzy [1]. Do you think this helps? If you think it needs to be more explicit I'll have to have a think about how to best word it. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  13:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I think that is very well done CJinoz. It really helps me (and I hope other readers) understand how things are handled with the pageant. Thanks for your work on this and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 13:27, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad I was able to at least do something right tonight! Have a great day & apologies again for how I handled that ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  13:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

My apologies as well CJinoz. I did make a small change while you were typing here. My usual edit summary is "recent ever so soon isn't" but, as I mentioned, if you prefer the old wording you should restore it. MarnetteD|Talk 13:34, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I noticed that and was going to fix it, I should have just removed that part but I got distracted trying to find a source for there now being nine placements. Unfortunately their state website hasn't been updated and I didn't want to venture into OR, although by the same token I should definitely have removed the outdated info. Thanks! ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  13:53, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good CJinoz. BTW I have been an admirer of NZ for decades - long before Peter Jackson :-) I saw Goodbye Pork Pie in 1982 and turned many of my friends on to it. It is still a fave so when Pork Pie (film) showed up on my cable last summer I was a little leery but I wound up liking it as well. I think Matt did a nice job of updating his fathers film. Now you may not like either of these but I decided to mention them in case any of my talk page watchers might be interested. Get some rest! MarnetteD|Talk 14:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Up and down

Re this... there's a hellhound on your trail - I plummeted three places yesterday. Never been above 162. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:54, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Yep R. We need to get one of those "edit the talk page of 1000s of articles" tasks going. Just kidding we edit what we can and let the Chutes and Ladders take us where they will :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I dropped again! There's a fourth, who is racking up about 3,000 per day, without being a bot or using AWB, AFAICT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Well that means they'll be catching me in a few days. Dag nab it - heehee. MarnetteD|Talk 19:19, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

IP you've been reverting

Eg at Correction tape. I've just done a range block for block evasion by an editor blocked, for among other reasons, repeatedly inserting his name into articles. Doug Weller talk 12:01, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Doug Weller and for the block. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:10, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

power~enwiki

Some misinformed clown is harassing me.
Cheers, 205.189.94.17 (talk) 21:25, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

I have posted to the ANI thread. I do feel that you need to stop being rude to people that disagree with you. AGF applies to all of us. Now I forget that at times too, but, it does not help you when you react to other editors with such vehemence. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 22:06, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit seemed to be a test and has been removed

Can you please explain why the edit I made to the page "Beagle" was considered a test? There is information in there that is inflammatory, terroristic, and flat out incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnbiasedGuy1974 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Because I was applying WP:AGF since it was your first edit. It was actually blanking and vandalism. Don't do it again. MarnetteD|Talk 20:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Veerapandiya Kattabomman (film)/archive2

Hello Marnette, been a while. How are things with your good self? BTW, Kailash29792 and I have listed this article about a 1959 cult classic film in Tamil cinema for peer reviewing with the intention of preparing it for FAC and subsequently taking it to FA. Your constructive comments would be deeply appreciated. Thank you.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 05:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Milestone congratulations

Hi MarnetteD. Congratulations on reaching the milestone of 200,000 edits. I see you are the 146th editor to achieve that level. Your diligence, courtesy and tireless contributions have improved Wikipedia and make this project a better place. I always appreciate your help and attention to my talk page. I hope you are doing well. Donner60 (talk) 22:10, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much Donner60! I'm hanging in there :-) Your kind words are appreciated. A big thanks to you for all you do here at the 'pedia as well. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 22:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Time for me to read it too

Mine's in a stack of other unread paperbacks. I've just finished No Highway, which is best read if you're aware that it was published the year before the Comet 1 prototype first flew. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Yikes I see what you mean Redrose64. Thanks for the links to let me read and learn - much appreciated. I haven't read Steppenwolf since the 80's so I'm looking forward to getting reacquainted with it. I'll follow it up by watching the film which finally came out on DVD a few years ago. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:12, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Admins Gone Wild

Episodes keep getting better and better. They must have the greatest writers in Hollywood. Softlavender (talk) 02:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

That is a stunner S. Sweeps week storyline. I missed most of it while shoveling snow and dealing with the ref desk troll who is shoveling stuff a lot browner. MarnetteD|Talk 05:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

I was fast asleep during the entire thing (my sleep schedule is wacky lately). I should have set my DVR. However, nice to know it's still viewable. Softlavender (talk) 05:16, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Still more surprises. Not sure how they are going to be able to write their way out of this story arc. Risky. Softlavender (talk) 10:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Word up

It is happening again. Drmies (talk) 04:43, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the message Drmies. From what I can see it has been going on steadily for at least three days. I don't completely understand why the desks aren't being protected. My one guess is it might be the fact that there are other targets like files and user talk pages for their crapola so, by leaving their favorite pages open, tracking them is a bit easier. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 04:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm seeing it everywhere. One more just now. Drmies (talk) 05:14, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

No, this was another one. Drmies (talk) 05:16, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I wish the situation was fun like this version of someone being everywhere D. A big thanks to you and all of the admins dealing with this. MarnetteD|Talk 05:41, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Ha, I had never heard of that one. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 05:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

So many cartoons from my childhood are stuck in my head - at least that means some parts of the ol' memory banks haven't been completely corrupted yet D. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 06:06, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

RIP Stan and Doug

While Stan Lee's passing is well chronicled we also lost Douglas Rain today. Stan may have had as much fun working at his craft as anyone I've ever seen - thanks to you and your co-workers for all those characters SL. Doug's voice has been part of my world since 1968. I've had the occasional thought that my last breath may be accompanied by his ever slowing rendition of Daisy Bell. RIP gentlemen. MarnetteD|Talk 06:16, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Special:Diff/868814680

Hi. What was the purpose of filling in a local file path in the title parameter? --Leyo 22:29, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you are asking Leyo. What title? All I did was run reflinks which can fix links and perform other formatting functions. If there is something that you want change back to a different format please feel free to do so. MarnetteD|Talk 22:51, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

→ ref 71 --Leyo 00:28, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the link Leyo. I have switched to the title used at the PDF file. However, if you think it should be something else please feel free to change it. MarnetteD|Talk 00:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

There are other similar cases (contains false-positives). Dispenser may want to adapt Reflinks in a way that file path will not be put in the title parameter anymore. --Leyo 11:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

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True story

Wishing you a great evening.

External videos
The True Story of the First Thanksgiving, American Experience, PBS

Cheers! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} 18:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Gareth Griffith-Jones That is such a good documentary. In fact that series is tip top and a great way to experience America :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:16, 22 November 2018 (UTC)