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You too!

Thank you for the link! Great cast, BBC(1986) — I shall add it to my LOVEFiLM rental list.
Hope Sunday is a happy day for you! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

It really is a wonderful cast. Local Hero is one of my all time favorite films. Dead Head was the first thing (not counting the Star Wars films) that I saw Denis Lawson in after that and it confirmed my feeling that he is a marvelous actor. Amazon UK mailed my copy out yesterday and it usually takes 8 to 12 days to get to me so I will just have to be patient and edit here to fill up the time :-) MarnetteD | Talk 08:58, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Not yet available to rent ... hope they make it so ASAP. I liked him in this too. –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

That series never aired over here but I am fairly sure that I saw it in one of the DVD catalogs that I get so I will have to track down a copy. Pauline Collins has been so good in so many things over the years. I still have an affection for the work that she did with hubby John Alderton in things like No, Honestly and Wodehouse Playhouse. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 10:07, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Just got the Jonathon Creek DVD ordered. It doesn't come out until next month but I am looking forward to it. MarnetteD | Talk 04:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I am sure you will enjoy it. Davies is often underestimated over here — no doubt due to his excellent performance as the only permanent panel member on QI ("quite interesting").
You are clearly a BBC fan, like me. I only watch the four main 'beeb' channels and BBC-News ... never any of the numerous commercial stations, much to the irritation of my wife.
Correction: World Cup 2011 in New Zealand was covered by ITV. So that was an exception to the rule! Cheers! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:16, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

You've been missing Broadchurch then, plenty of DW-related cast and crew. David Tennant, Olivia Colman (The Eleventh Hour) and Arthur Darvill in every episode; most episodes written by Chris Chibnall and directed by Euros Lyn; more besides. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:52, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Redrose!
I know ... obviously used to watch ITV for Morse and The Sweeney, but since the relaxation on advertising intrusion I just become so irritated with the more frequent and much longer interruptions that the enjoyment becomes less and less. I should have added to my remark above,"live TV", of course now that I have a brand-new TiVo box courtesy of Virgin since February 26.
Just checked this out and I can catch up all five episodes. Many thanks Redrose for pointing out the series to me.
Michael – I read that BBC America has bought the series for later showing this year!
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:26, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't watch ITV in real time anymore. I have a Humax PVR-9300T; and once the prog starts, I hit "pause" and go and do something else. After 15-20 minutes, I can go back and hit "play" on the Humax box, and fast-forward through the breaks: eight presses of the

button advances it four minutes, which is the length of a typical ITV or C4 break. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the TiVo can take me back to when I started watching the programme too. Also I am able to record two channels simultaneously whilst watching a third on either live TV or On Demand, or record three channels AND watch a programme that I have previously recorded. Ha! The only difficulty is that there are never enough hours available in any day to watch more than a fraction of what you would like to –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 13:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

See what I miss by being 7 hours into your past :-) That being able to fast forward/skip through commercial is a joy. I know the technology will out pace them in the next few years but I do still get shows I want to see more than once on DVDs. Endeavor is being released next month and "no commercial breaks", "no annoying stuff at the bottom or the side of the episode" added to the fact that there is no knowing when the series will air on PBS or BBCA are all big pluses. Thanks so much for letting me know about Broadchurch. I will be keeping my eye open for it. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD | Talk 15:10, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

We got Endeavour series 1 episode 1 ("Girl") at 20:00 (BST) yesterday - on ITV, which means that Gareth Griffith-Jones missed that one too. It was 2 hours as broadcast, including the breaks. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:53, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Fair point, but with it being available for 28 days on itvPLAYER (whereas BBC iPlayer only allows 7 days) I can still watch it and not even have to fast-forward because the commercials are omitted from the catch up service. Makes you wonder though how advertisers will put up with their costly creations being avoided by viewers whenever possible and how the commercial TV companies will survive –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 21:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I hope that you both have seen - or will get to see - the pilot episode of this series from January of last year. Shaun Evans recreated some of John Thaw's physical quirks in subtle manner that is quite marvelous. There were several other references to the original series and the tribute that comes right at the end - well all I can say is I did choke up a little when I saw it. As to the advertiser lets say "let them eat static" HeeHee. MarnetteD | Talk 21:52, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Apropos Jonathan Creek: check out YouTube in the meantime! :) Shir-El too 17:26, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

From your Welsh reporter ...

Hot off the presses is this
Cheers! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 16:21, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. Interesting that they have scheduled things for 2013 and 15. I will have to search and see if some website streams the games live so that I can see more of them. Looks like 2015 will be a fun year since England will be hosting the World Cup in Sept and Oct with some games being held in Cardiff! Now if we can just get the lotto ping pong balls to come up the right way I can come and see some games live :-) MarnetteD | Talk 16:34, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Looking for input...

Specifically for James Hill (British director) and Ken Swofford. I more or less 'cobbled' both articles together from a handful of internet sources and would like to see them improve. For example there's no personal data on Hill. (I contacted Virginia McKenna through her NPO, but she was unable to help.) I'm currently involved in adding material to Ellery Queen (TV series) and will follow up for Richard Levinson and William Link. Cheers! Shir-El too 17:17, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

PS Just found the orphaned page Levinson & Link. Would you suggest expanding it and adding links on their other related pages? It might be a challenge, seeing that there's so much overlapping material. Cheers! Shir-El too 17:38, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Further to Levinson & Link: I checked Comden and Green, which automatically goes to Betty Comden's page. I'm not very good on the technical side of Wikipedia, so could you refer me to someone who might help convert the page into an automatic redirect? Cheers! Shir-El too 18:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply. With all that has gone on in the last week or so I missed this message completely. Here are a few pages to go and seek help

Here are a couple ideas for your specific question but be aware these are just one persons thoughts - you may get completely different ones at the links I mentioned. We don't often have articles about two different people who worked in collaboration (though a few exist) as with the Levinson & Link page. It would likely be best if any information in that article be split into the articles for each person individually - if it isn't already there - and then have the L & L article deleted. There collaboration can be mention in both the Richard Levinson and William Link articles in detail - and I notice that it is already mentioned in the ledes. As to Comden and Green the same idea applies. In any articles where they are mentioned you just link the names separately ala Betty Comden & Adolph Green. I hope that this is of some help and I apologize if it only makes things more confusing. Again there will be other editors who can give assistance at the links provided. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:59, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

About Filmography

when a page for the actor or actress has Selected Filmography , can it be updated when a film they appeared is found? Voggyer (talk) 19:42, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Any films from the past can be added. Especially if there is an existing wikiarticle for said film. If there isn't a wikiarticle it is a good idea to add a reference so that your edit isn't removed as unsourced. But please don't use IMDb - I know that can be frustrating but they are not a reliable source and they do have some film entries on their site that are complete hoaxes. If it is an upcoming film the preference is to mention it in the body of the article until a confirmed release date is set, Then it can be moved to the filmography. I hope that this is of some help. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 20:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Wonder why

Thank you for 'looking out for me'.
A couple of questions irritate though here –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 23:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome. As to your question I don;t have an answer. The more I looked at it the weirder it seemed. The only thing I can say is that the bulk of C's edits are just cosmetic changes to user space trinkets. The few to articles that I looked at seemed innocuous. We get that kind of thing from time to time. C' leaving you a message just because you had left a welcome message on an IPs talk page shows that the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition "No good deed ever goes unpunished" still applies. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 02:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Ha! That is a very droll observation and so often apt. Happy editing! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 10:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

One of my heroes

This man is a legend. Cheers! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 20:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Great stuff. Thanks for sharing it. This could be the start on the road to becoming the coach for the Wales team one day. Best of luck to him. MarnetteD | Talk 21:07, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

The White Flower 1923

Hi MarnetteD, in regards to the ebay poster, first I am not a linguist. In creating the article I wanted an easy to find piece of visual artwork(usually a poster) that survived from this film. For it is a lost film. The poster most certainly is of The White Flower as director Julia Crawford Ivers name is prominent in the credits and it's the only island themed film she made with Betty Compson. The title Havaii Pigen tranlates into Hawaii Pigeon in something called Hawaii Creole English. This is what results from an AOL/Netscape search of the term (AOL/NetscapeISP). Your question was very interesting in that it revealed that the lobby poster is sort of local language advertisement which makes sense as the movie was filmed entirely in Hawaii. I originally thought the language was a European release poster. Again I'm not a linguist but this is what I researched. Much appreciated. All my Best. Koplimek (talk) 00:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Lions team announcement

Gatland makes his Lions team announcement this morning. Cheers Michael! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 12:19, 30 April 2013 (UTC) [http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/22372745

Many thanks for the link. Looks interesting. I know those long trips to the southern hemisphere can be trying for a team. No matter what the record winds up being they will learn a lot. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 01:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Correct. All good for (for Wales for) next World Cup. Here is an update. Kind regards, –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Although our rugby coverage is spotty I do get to see a one hour recap of Sky Sports News on our Fox Soccer channel (which we are losing in August) so I will be keeping my eye on that for more updates to add to the ones that you so generously provide. MarnetteD | Talk 19:56, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I am delighted to share them with you. So pleased for Sam; Ryan Jones captains Wales on their Japan summer tour. Cheers! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 20:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: George Harrison

This is a note to let the main editors of George Harrison know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on May 4, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or one of his delegates (Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs)), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 4, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

George Harrison (1943–2001) was an English musician, singer, and songwriter who achieved international fame as the lead guitarist of the Beatles. By 1965 Harrison had begun to lead the other Beatles into folk rock through his interest in the Byrds and Bob Dylan, and towards Indian classical music through his use of the sitar on "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)". He developed an interest in the Hare Krishna movement and became an admirer of Indian culture and mysticism, introducing them to the other Beatles and their Western audience. Following the band's break-up in 1970, Harrison released several best-selling singles and albums as a solo performer, and in 1988 co-founded the platinum-selling supergroup the Traveling Wilburys. A prolific recording artist, he was featured as a guest guitarist on tracks by Badfinger, Ronnie Wood and Billy Preston, and collaborated on songs and music with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and Tom Petty, among others. He also organized the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh with Ravi Shankar, a precursor to later benefit concerts such as Live Aid. Harrison was also a music and film producer, founding Dark Horse Records in 1974 and co-founding HandMade Films in 1978. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hahaha. I'm not sure what prompted that message as I don't recognize the sock. Thanks for the spritz. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

You are most welcome. T-b-G now comes in a variety of fruit and natural wood scents for your pleasure. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 17:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Another thanks

So apt. IPs have protection that is intolerable. The editor in question was happy to pretend to be new whereas s/he had been editing there under a similar address for a while earlier –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 20:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

MoS

Hey I saw your recent edits on Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts taking awards out of their infobox, I'm not arguing the edit but you stated it was due to MoS of actors, can you state where it says that? Just so I can have it for future reference :) Thanks Lady Lotus (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

We may have to raise this at the film project talk page. Circa 06-07 we were putting awards in the infobox. Then there was a discussion that it was inherently POV to only put some awards in rather than all - that lead to something like 20 fields being added. Then a year or so later it was decided to remove them all as we were getting infobox bloat and the were better handled in a) the body of the article or b) in their own separate article like the one for Meryl Streep. At another point the "actor infobox" was merged into the "person infobox" which caused various problems. I don't know that any of this ever got codified into a policy or guideline page as I say this was all five years or so ago and - many apologies - I am short of time due to off wiki to go digging into the archives. You might ask Erik (talk · contribs) as he has a good memory for these things. As I said, and since consensus can change, we might want to get new input. I would still be against shoehorning the comedian award box into the infobox the way that one editor was doing but we might put a link in the infobox to the awards section of a given article or, again as with MS, the separate article. Apologies again for the lack of time. MarnetteD | Talk 15:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello! MarnetteD, not sure if you realize, but saying my name in a link now sends me a notification. Presto, here I am. :) Anyway, I did some research and found the initial discussion here, specifically all the supports under Proposal 4. This was the actual removal. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:50, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I learned that this new notification system had that ability but then forgot all about it when I was typing the above. Thanks so much for chiming in and giving us the links. Such fast service is very much appreciated. Cheers!!! MarnetteD | Talk 15:53, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I was just about to ask the same question (as Lady Lotus). I looked for an MOS:actor, and I didn't know there used to be an actor infobox. I certainly don't have a problem with not having awards in the infobox, but when you make an edit like this, please put a link in the summary for explanation and verification. Thanks. --Musdan77 (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

A thread discussing this situation has been opened here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers#Awards in infobox. Please feel free to add your comments and thoughts there. MarnetteD | Talk 16:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Awards lists in play articles

Based on your past editing activity, you may want to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Theatre#Award enumeration.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:08, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Lalla Ward

I have supplied valid sources, if you search for her date of birth i.e.: 28th June 1951, you will find a myriad of websites that attest to that information. You are very 'heavy-handed'- I now have to enter a 'captcha', and it says 'possible vandalism' against my edit. I could understand if that was truly the case- what is your agendum? Don't let being an editor go to your head. ( -: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.216.76 (talk) 17:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

It takes a bit to learn what can and what cannot be used to provide a source here at Wikipedia. One place that addresses this specific situation is here WP:USERGENERATED. I am glad that you found a source that we can use but understand that per WP:BURDEN it is up to you to provide that source. MarnetteD | Talk 18:36, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

When you add personal statistics such as birthdates to biography articles you need to include a reliable source to allow for verification of the material. Reverting another editor's edit with a clear edit summary as to why the material is being removed is not impolite, it's part of the editing cycle of Wikipedia so you shouldn't take offense when it happens. Our policy with regard to living persons is one of the most strict policies here, so please review the policy if you intend to edit additional biography articles and ensure you are stating your sources when adding material. As I stated in one of my edit summaries it is a long time consensus that IMDB does not meet reliable sourcing criteria for personal statistics in biography articles (see Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites#IMDb and WP:IMDB/RS). Please do review the reliable sources guidelines prior to adding any additional sources to the article; if after reading the guidelines and policies you are unsure as to whether a particular website meets our criteria you can always ask on the talk page, the reliable sources noticeboard. MarnetteD | Talk 18:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Note for my talk page watchers

Thought I'd leave this here rather than go to each of your pages, especially now that we have our handy dandy notification if I link your names. I started viewing the new episodes of Endeavour (TV series) this weekend and I can highly recommend it to any who might be interested. I think the series can be appreciated on its own merits but for those of us who appreciate Morse the way they are seeding in characters and plot elements from that series make it that much more exciting to watch. Drmargi it is scheduled to air on Masterpiece later this summer but I think you will want to have the DVDs for repeated viewings. Redrose64 after all the episodes of Morse and Lewis as well as the other series filmed in Oxford I am still amazed at the locations that they find. The rooftop used for the climax of episode two (Fugue) is just gorgeous and adds to the impact of that story. They end this episode with an interchange between Morse and Thursday that is moving and emotional. I hope that you enjoyed/will enjoy it. MarnetteD | Talk 21:50, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

One other DVD that arrived

Gareth I hope that you can find Endeavour either on DVD or through you cable system. It is always great to see it without commercials or the other stuff they clutter up the picture with. I also got to watch the Jonathan Creek special. As opposed to several of the reviews I saw I quite enjoyed it. I'll admit it that I was thrown a bit by the events that had occurred in Jonathan life since we last saw him but I would not fault Remnick for moving the character on from the way that he had been in the regular series. I read that they may produce three new episodes and I gotta say that I wouldn't mind seeing Maddie or Carla again for old times sake but I know that is just wishful thinking. MarnetteD | Talk 21:50, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry that you only "quite enjoyed it", Michael. I sometimes find that going back to a programme/film that slightly disappointed me at initial viewing, a few weeks later, results in more appreciation. I suppose we are resistant to change.
Yes, it looks like a new series for 2014 is a certainty according to this
Cheers!
— Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|—22:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

My apologies G. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was belittling the special. I will say that it came in the middle of a weekend that had a very special season ending Doctor Who story and then the first two eps of Endeavour were stunning so I may not have given the praise to JC that it deserved. I am certainly glad that I saw it and I know I will watch it again in the future. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

John Peel and Michael Palin, schoolmates in Shrewsbury School

Hello MarnetteD: the reference is provided by the documentary "John Peel's Record Box". You can see it in Youtube [1], part 1, minute 9.34. But you know Youtube videos can not be put as reference. But you will see it is there. Please, I ask you to undo your change. Regards, --190.45.86.154 (talk) 22:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)"Michael came to Riggs a year after Francis, some three years after I arrived at Shrewsbury, but being a rather clever boy, started out in a higher form than the one it had taken me three years to achieve" - John Peel, Margrave of the Marshes (2005). p.60 (also mentioned p.94). Regards, Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC) [2]

(edit conflict)Sorry but we need a verifiable reference that can be added to the artilce. To be honest I have doubts about its notability. Michael has performed with numerous people that he went to schools with over the years and we aren't filling the article with that info. This is an encyclopedia not a chatty biography. Having said that if you can ever find a reference that can be used you are free to restore the info. MarnetteD | Talk 22:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your addition Martinevans123. MarnetteD | Talk 22:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

If you want a chatty (and extremely witty) (auto)biography, I'd thoroughly recommend Margrave of the Marshes! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2013 (UTC) ... other contemporaries of Ravenscroft were Richard Ingrams, Christopher Booker, Paul Foot and Willie Rushton, but he never really knew them at the time.

Sorry, MarnetteD. But I don't want to state all the people that Michael Palin knows. I want to state that he was in a documentary about Peel because he and Peel were schoolmates at Shrewsbury school. I think it's a Palin's TV appearance and must be said. The problem is that the YouTube link can not be used as reference. Regards, --190.45.86.154 (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC) (You can answer me in my talk page. Although I write from an IP I have one. Thanks).

((talk page stalker stalker)) ¡Hola y bienvenidos .154! Margrave of the Marshes is indeed excellent as Martin says.. I miss Peel greatly and still find it hard to believe he's gone. It is amazing how one of the most important men in modern music couldn't play an instrument. A sad loss. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 00:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for keeping an eye on my talk page, and keeping that can of Troll-be-gone close at hand! ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 22:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Always glad to lend a mouse click. T-b-G is a wonderful product and has an array of uses.

-) MarnetteD | Talk 22:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I'ma pick me up some o' that! ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 02:35, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Santy960529

Pretty sure he/she is a vandalism only account, so if you want to submit user for block, I'll totally support it! Lady Lotus (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I also wonder if this is a sock of another editor who was doing the same thing with the awards a year or so ago. Activity is sporadic at the moment so my experience has been that some admins would block but others wouldn't. I think we can keep up our current watchfulness and report if things amp up. Thanks for your vigilance on this article and for your other work here at WikiP. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 23:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey at least we got a response out of them instead of just getting ignored lol Lady Lotus (talk) 19:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Stirling Range

Per this edit [3], would you care to explain on what grounds you think an article should contain speculation on whether non-existent rain gauges would have been affected by climate change? Even if the material was apparently removed by "a POV warrior who was also willing to sock to violate WP:POINT", it doesn't alter the fact that it shouldn't have been there in the first place. It is not only unsourced, it is entirely irrelevant. I am 'not' going to put a 'citation needed' tag on it, because it quite plainly doesn't need citation - it needs deletion. I suggest that you either remove it, or come up with better reasons to include it than that a sock removed it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

That is fine. Since, as I promised when you dumped on me a year or so ago when all I was doing was to try and protect your page from trolls, I was not going to edit your talk page that edit summary was the only way to leave you a message. I figured that you hadn't seen the edit warring or socking on other articles. I have no stake in the situation on that article and am fine with your actions. My apologies for taking this tack on the situation. MarnetteD | Talk 19:02, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting. As for the incident a year ago, I apologised at the time, but if you've not seen it, I'll repeat what I said: it was clearly wrong of me to have responded as I did, and if I'd paid more attention I would have realised that I was mistaken. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

No I had taken your page off my watchlist so I missed what you wrote. Thanks for the apologies then and now. This place wouldn't be the same without you so I am glad that you are still editing here in spite of all the wikidrahma that goes on. MarnetteD | Talk 21:16, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

I wanted to apologize for my behavior after you reverted my edit at The Godfather. I'm sorry if I may or may not have come across rude towards you. I realize now that if someone were to list all the references to that movie, it would probably require a separate article. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 15:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. I often wish that there was a Wikifiction or Fictionpedia where editors could add cultural references to their hearts content. Somewhere around 2006 or 7 consensus was reached to put strict limitations on these here in favor of creating a more encyclopedic website. Editing here can be frustrating at times so just hang in there. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 16:31, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Hong Kong

Good morning Michael, Trust you are well. Here is the latest report from your Welsh rugby correspondent in the UK
Cheers!
— Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|—08:54, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

A Newcastle for you!

Drinking helps. :D DonQuixote (talk) 05:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Re:Apologies for the dyslexic edit

All is forgiven. So much butthurt can happen to a guy. We need a little help every now and then. --Smartie2thaMaxXx (talk) 21:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Check it out

Considering your edit on Wag the Dog, you might want to check out the recent edits on Bulworth, (500) Days of Summer, The Book of Life (film) and other film articles, where the reviews which I removed per WP:WEIGHT have been restored. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:58, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the update. I would agree with Betty's assessment at the thread you started here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#V for Vendetta .28film.29. You were quite tight to remove them. I wonder if we seeing a set of meat puppets in this situation but I haven't had time to look dig into the histories. We might need to start a different thread regarding Walsh as a reviewer at the project. My time online is going to be sporadic all weekend but I would support anything you want to do. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 16:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I probably won't be able to do anything about it soon. I'm working to finish a large upload of images to Commons, and to clean up the articles they go into, before I leave to go out of town for a week, when my editing time will be severely curtailed. That's followed by another busy (but less busy) week after it. So it'll be a bit. If you clear up before then and want to begin a discussion, I'll chime in when I have time. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:55, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. Safe travels on your time away. I hope that it is fulfilling and that you get to have at least a little fun. MarnetteD | Talk 20:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	This was simply the best, thanks for looking out for me. Best and cheers~! Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 02:10, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

You are most welcome and I was glad to be of service. That is one of Tina's greatest! Thanks back at chya for the barnstar. It is most appreciated. MarnetteD | Talk 05:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Sucker Punch

Isaac, Hamm and Glenn names are on the poster. Here's an ultra high quality image of the poster that says so: [4]. QuasyBoy (talk) 03:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I couldn't see them when I looked but as you've shown them being there (with the better resolution) please add them back - if you haven't already. Thanks for clearing things up. MarnetteD | Talk 04:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem. QuasyBoy (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

My only question is...

...how come TOJ gets off light with a likely open-and-shut case at WP:AN while I get the crapfest at Talk:American Dad!? Hmph. Doniago (talk) 22:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Rats. I didn't know about what is going on there. Without having looked at it I can say that we get an ton of "they removed my edits so they are bad people and bullies too boot." No one seems to read the line "Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone—subject to certain terms and conditions." I hope I haven't made light of what you are dealing with and apologize if I have. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

If you want to make it up to me you could call out AD86 for their various misrepresentations, since few other editors/admins seem willing to do it. Sorry, did I sound bitter just then? :p

More seriously, I've started a discussion at MOS:TV to incorporate a version of WP:FILMRATING. Given the DRN outcome and the apparent consensus in favor of minimizing if not eliminating the parental ratings from articles, I don't think additional voices are needed there, but at the same time there hasn't been a lot of feedback either. Your call, really, though if it stayed dormant for a full week I was planning to implement the change. I'd hate to be accused of whining to another editor/trying to enlist another co-conspirator/using my amazing coercive powers to psychically influence another poor, defenseless editor. (eye-roll)

I thank you in advance for putting up with my venting. :) Doniago (talk) 00:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem at all. I am glad to listen as venting is better than bottling it up. I will take a look though I am not sure if I have a strong opinion one way or the other. The one thing that is wrong is AD86's comments about you. "Comment on content and not the contributor" should come up in big red letters whenever anyone hits the edit command on any talk page. I find that scanning through User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior and User:KillerChihuahuas user page can help when frustrations build. Hang in there and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 01:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

When I'm not busy being irritated by how they've been allowed to go after me I'm concerned that the lack of consequences they've faced so far (and this is after they were blocked previously for this kind of behavior) will only lead them to believe that their behavior is acceptable, and possibly lead to some other editor finding themselves a target farther down the line.

Anywho, thanks again for the ear, whether or not you opt to get involved. Feel free to look me up if you ever want a second set of eyes on something you're involved with. Doniago (talk) 01:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Will do and thanks for the offer. MarnetteD | Talk 02:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, after AD86 apparently decided to go after me on the Talk page of an article they'd never before edited, I've opened a new ANI case. Hopefully this one will yield some level of productive result. You are, of course, welcome to participate if you wish. The underlying issue this time is at Talk:Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 11:34, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I am so sorry that you are having to put up with this nonsense. I feel a bit caught betwixt and between. If I comment you will be open to accusations of canvassing and I wouldn't want to make things worse. I am glad to see Betty's comment on ANI as it is direct and to the point. The situation on the AGoS's talk page stinks to high heaven. There are at least four WP:SPAs commenting there. The fact that they geolocate to addresses all over the world makes me more suspicious of sock/meat puppetry not less. Nowadays it is much easier for a person to cover their tracks by bouncing their ISP all over the place. Now, my suspicions don't go as far as thinking AD is the sock master. That editors showing up looks to be more of an opportunistic "I can make trouble now" situation. Here are some suggestions for the future.

The minute something like this starts post a "Request for input" on the appropriate Wikiproject talk page (in this case the FilmProject.) These don't always get a response but at least you will have tried.
Next request a WP:3O and after that a WP:RFC. Next up is the time consuming WP:DR but, hopefully, things will be taken care of then.
This one is drastic but you can always do this User talk:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior#Here is another possible addition when the stress gets to be too much.

Now, except for the last one, I am sure you are already aware of these so my apologies for if I cause any offense by mentioning them. It is just that I know you to be a good editor who has Wikipedia's best interests at heart. All to often the AGF that we are to extend to new editors is not returned to those of us who have toiled for years. Hang in there. Cheers and here is hoping that we get to return to normal editing (whatever that is) ASAP. MarnetteD | Talk 19:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure whether it would constitute canvassing or not if you chimed in at ANI, but I'll try to make it as clear as possible and say that I wouldn't mind seeing you post there but am not asking you to do so. That said, I completely understand if you want to keep entirely out of it and just be a sounding board. You should only get involved there if you want to get involved there.

FWIW, this time around people seem to be taking it a bit more seriously, probably because this time it's more clear that AD86 went out of their way to engage me (despite having claimed to want nothing more to do with me). I've asked that if they do decide I deserve any manner of negative repercussion that they please explain their reasoning (and how I can do better next time in their opinion), as aside from perhaps overreacting initially it's my opinion that I largely followed the recommendations I was given for how to proceed, and so far the only person who seems to have a substantial issue with it is AD86...which is shocking of course.

It would probably help my own dealings if I hadn't already had an RFC previously go horribly, horribly awry (Talk:Synchronous motor), another situation where things got escalated to ANI, and another situation where people miscast it as a content rather than conduct dispute. Oy vey.

Anyway, another IP editor chimed in with some amazingly sensible thoughts regarding the situation at AGoS including a source from the LA Times. That's a substantial improvement over matters to that point, so maybe things are improving now, both at ANI and AGoS.

Thanks again for lending me an ear!!! DonIago (talk) 21:51, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

You are most welcome. I forgot to include the statement that none of my suggestions may bring satisfaction. You might not get any responses or you might get ones that are negative. They will indicate to some admins that you did try and that can help a little - though not always. I notice AD hasn't made any further posts at the AN/I thread so that may take care of things for now. But I will keep an eye on things. I hope you have a nice Sunday and week ahead. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 23:47, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Nuts. I posted this before checking my watchlist. Oh well. MarnetteD | Talk 23:51, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Thus far I'm reasonably content with the course of the ANI investigation. Honestly, I would have been happy enough if Retrolord's closure had gone through as long as AD86 knocked it off, which I hope I've made clear has been my bottom line from the beginning of this whole situation (them never treating another editor in the same manner would be a perk). As it is AD86's trademark verbosity and continuing tendency to misrepresent what actually occurs appears to simply be digging their hole deeper, which as I'm sure you can imagine suits me fine. Hope you're having a good weekend as well!

Thank you for speaking your piece at the ANI case as well. DonIago (talk) 01:57, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

ETA - Well, it seems they've just left the ANI case in a bit of a huff. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suspect that they haven't exactly done anything to endear themselves to the people monitoring the case. Hopefully there will be some resolution before too much longer. DonIago (talk) 02:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Not your run of the mill vandalism

To my talk page watchers. I'm glad it was reverted, of course, but this edit [5] did make me chuckle. Some of you might enjoy it too. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 02:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Seems like a shame to revert. It does capture him nicely! ;-) --Drmargi (talk) 02:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hi Marnette, I wonder if I could request your eyes and thoughts on Horrible Histories (2009 TV series). Editor Coin945 has been seized by the desire to work it up to FA and embarked on a major overhaul. The edits he is making seem to be in good faith, but he is ignoring comments (pleas) on the article talk page and his user page. He says he is not reading them because he is too busy working up the article. He dislikes sandboxes and is taking the approach that he (alone) will fling all he has at the article and fix things like mark up, spelling and MOS later. He has reverted my edits without discussion and is not addressing points brought up on the talk page. I have told him that he is getting perilously close to disruptive editing and owning as he is ignoring all comers. Getting him blocked is not my intention, I just want him to slow down and start listening to others. The article is moving away from FA, in my opinion, not towards it. Your comments would be appreciated, on approach if nothing else, if you fancy it. Cheers. Span (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much Span (talk) 09:34, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome. It is tough when one is a fan of a show (and in this case probably young) and wants to share everything one cares about online. I am a Dr Who addict myself. I often recommend that enthusiastic editors try the TARDIS wikia where the content rules are looser. I wonder if the is a wiki for HH. Cheers and have a good seek. MarnetteD | Talk 16:40, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

The Pest

Thanks for catching this! The little bastard is doing hit-and-runs, now obsessed with the Ghostbusters film. Jim Varney's been given pending changes protection, a trend I will continue. Cheers :) Doc talk 06:31, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Glad to have been of help. I've noticed an uptick in TLB's (shall we use that as an acronym for our pest heehee) editing of late. Not because I have caught many edits but because of the amount of IP's that you have been adding to the VCV page. As ever, thanks for your vigilance. MarnetteD | Talk 16:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Aamir Ali

Hi Marnette, You don't know him very well, Edits by me on biography of living person, Aamir Ali is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.51.52.220 (talk) 17:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

That does not matter. Per WP:BLP and per WP:BURDEN you MUST provide a WP:RS when adding information to this article. MarnetteD | Talk 17:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

The SNOG!

Well, that took long enough! I thought the ending of Lewis last night was charming, especially with the line about Hathaway being "sunburned" and Innocent just stunned. You have the DVD's from the UK, right? Did they cut part of the scene where they were talking about his having let go of his first wife, or another scene afterward where one of them finally makes a move? It all seemed a bit abrupt, by maybe they meant it to be, to surprise us with the outcome of that conversation. --Drmargi (talk) 17:27, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi DM. I was at a friends birthday barbecue last night and, since there were too many things to DVR like Copper and Mad Men, I skipped Lewis. Thinking back to when I watched the DVD a few months ago I don't remember scenes like the one you describe but that could be a faulty memory banks problem. I think they just let the fact that they had, as you point out, played this out over the last 6 years be the build up. Are they still doing the red letters that spell out something in the Masterpiece version of the credits? When I did my "hunt for Colin's cameos" there were no hidden messages in the original UK credits. Apologies for letting you down and I hope you summer is full of fun. MarnetteD | Talk 20:43, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, well. It will be on Netflix in time. Regardless, they did a nice job surprising us. No Colin this week or last, and just a few red letters. I couldn't make sense of them, I'm afraid. Bummer.

Copper got off with a bang. I read they brought in a new showrunner, and he sure made an impression. I'm going to like Donal Logue and the Tammany Hall story. Oh, and did you see the Downton casting news? --Drmargi (talk) 08:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

No I didn't. I'll check it out. Did you see Dan Stevens when he was on The Graham Norton Show a couple weeks ago? There was a cute bit when Graham went over the tweets and texts that hit the Beeb on Xmas day after the episode had aired. Yes, Copper looks to have an interesting season ahead though I do hope that Elizabeth's addiction isn't too protracted. I did have to grind gears through the first half hour as I had to separate plot lines from Copper and Ripper Street apart in my memory. MarnetteD | Talk 14:25, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Once Upon a Time in America

Franco Arcalli, Nino Baragli and Piero De Bernardi are all BLUE LINKS. Maybe you need to look the edits closer before reverting them with harshy edit summaries. --Cavarrone 15:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. Many apologies for getting that wrong. I was sure I saw a red link but I was in error. that is what i get for not brewing my morning coffee before logging on. Good job on fixing the linking booboo, Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 16:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emperor: Young Caesar

Your comment about a redirect was well made. As did Eric, I looked for sources, found enough, but determined they are all about Exclusive Media Group hiring Burr Steers to direct a film... adapted by William Broyles and Stephen Harrigan from Conn Iggulden's first two novels of his Empire series. So I added added two sourced sentences over at Burr Steers#Career AND a mention of a proposed adaptation of his work over at Conn Iggulden#Emperor series film adaptation. As the title "Emperor: Young Caesar" is a searchable term and, as the available coverage is more to do with Steers being hired by Exclusive Media to direct (whether he ever does so or not, he has cashed the check), and less about the Conn Iggulden's novel series, I think a redirect of that title to the director's article makes more sense than would a redirect to the novel's author. Which would you think the best option? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 08:54, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

I really admire the research you have put in regarding this. I also have to say that the entry at Steers page gives WP:UNDUE info and weight to an unrealized project. His career section now contains more info about that non film that it does to the films he has made. Because of your efforts I won't edit the entry. I do apologize if any of this, or my posts at the AFD, causes offense as that is not my intention. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 16:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

No offfense inferred or felt by be. I listened to what Eric proposed at the AFD, which is why I also created an alternate target at Conn Iggulden#Emperor series film adaptation... a section which can be expanded if other adaptations of his works are contemplated and receive coverage. Whether this title is considered searchable enough to be worth redirecting or not, at least sourced information has been preserved to serve our readers. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

FIlm

No, no, quite alright. I hadn't realized someone was OWNing and I appreciate the warning. I'm really glad you gave me a head's up! --Tenebrae (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Double Thanks

No problem. I've gotten a few to. It reminds me of getting flashy stickers in grade school saying you did a good job at your work. ;) Sadly, I've already spent far too much on other things to take part in the B&N sale, but I do have a good selection of Out of Print criterions (how could they lose all the Melville films!?) now, so I'm pretty content with my lot. Really excited for the upcoming blu of Seconds which I have yet to see. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

My (unnecessary) comments from earlier

I am truly sorry for lashing out at you the way I did on Talk:The Hangover#Runtime. I've gotten so tired of editors who regularly invoke WP:BURDEN as an excuse to annul other editors' work that I didn't notice the details of your edits in respect to the rest of the article. Please forgive my poor manners in this case. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for this most heartfelt message and you are most certainly forgiven. I well understand your frustrations. Cheers and happy editing in the future (whenever that is possible

) MarnetteD | Talk 04:56, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Spartacus (film)

Which sources do you need regarding the depiction of Gracchus? I suppose everything can be found in Wiki itself, e.g. Crassus really was a general, tycoon and politician, really fought and crushed Spartacus, really was made consul after that. Or Varinia really was Spartacus' wife, Lentulus really was the gladiators school owner etc... We can also find brothers Gracchi & their deeds in Wiki. So i have simply compiled it in a convenient way, because i believe it's worth to be underlined. Actually something similar is said here:

http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/DetailView.aspx?s=&Movie=53291 (Section "Note")

or here:

http://books.google.co.il/books?id=_qE-Apbp4PMC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=gracchus+depiction+in+spartacus&source=bl&ots=Lzfo7WHxbd&sig=Ocv57efyoWR2AgxVVaEvpW2wifo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aYDmUbjRNoHMhAeqiYC4DA&sqi=2&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=gracchus%20depiction%20in%20spartacus&f=false Alon 68 (talk) 11:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:OR and WP:SYNTHESIS. Your post to the article as it stood was your interpretation of the historical events. Next please note that the film is not a documentary as with most historical films there will be differences from real events. Usually due to time constraints or for dramatic storytelling reasons. Having said that if you can find a WP:RS commenting on the historical accuracy then it can be added to the article as a reference. The BFI link that you provided does not meet that test as it makes no mention of the accuracy at all. I can't speak to the google books link as the pages were blank when I clicked on it. One suggestion is to post that link on the talk page for the film and ask if it is sufficient. That will allow other editors to check on whether it meets wikipedia's standards or not. MarnetteD | Talk 15:23, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Untitled Marc Lawrence/Hugh Grant Comedy

Hello, regarding Untitled Marc Lawrence/Hugh Grant Comedy, I have found additional references providing significant coverage of the topic, and I have used them to make the article more full-bodied. Filming is verified to have taken place, so I believe it meets WP:NFF. It is just not the kind of film that has a fan base that tracks it through production religiously. :) I ask you to see if the current version of the article is more agreeable and worth keeping. Erik (talk | contribs) 14:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I have altered my response to keep. I also left a question about the title of the article for consideration. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 15:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Withdrawal symptoms

Hi Michael,
I have had a great vacation. Thank you for looking after the shop.
I have removed the Wikibreak template extended from July 1 to July 31 ... I am sort of slipping slowly back into Wikipedia. Must be experiencing withdrawal symptoms! I do not seem to be able to leave an edit summary here... What has changed? –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:13, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back! I was about to go to your talk page and leave a message. I am not sure about the edit summary situation. While you were gone they did add a "visual editor" to the system but I know next to nothing about using it so I just soldier on with the old way of editing. Village pump (technical) is probably the place to head to for an answer. None of my cable stations showed any of the Lions tour down under so I followed it through various online news reports. I did wake up to the final game of the "State of Origin" series this morning won by Queensland. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Great to hear back from you. I was so proud of "my boys" on the tour. Gatland was strong and his choices in the predominance of Wales players, especially in the final test, was entirely justified.
All the best –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Gareth, if you mean that you were unable to leave an edit summary when creating this section - that's normal behaviour when you use the "new section" tab, and has been like that for at least as long as I've been around (four years). Instead, you get a default edit summary which ends with the words "new section" - as here. VisualEditor won't be the problem, because it is not yet enabled for talk pages... and it's unlikely ever to be, since they want to use a thing called "Flow" for talk pages. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks, once more, to Redrose!
I realised when I returned to reply to Michael and of course could write my ES, that I must have been affected by (a) my seven weeks break from WP, and (b) the temperature here reaching 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
Also thanks for alerting me to Flow which explains a cryptic message left early this morning by PCW. Cheers! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:55, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Flow is becoming a thread here –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 08:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Puella Magi Madoka Magica

I'm here to ask you a question about an edit you did to the page Puella Magi Madoka Magica. You removed the category Category:Time travel in fiction. Now, I'm not going to argue whether the time travel in the series is "real" time travel or not, but your edit summary there is no indication that this series involves time travel is what worried me and I see you reverted a lot of edits by the IP 72.67.93.68, so I just have to ask you: have you seen the series? No offense or anything, I'm just verifying if you have made a possible mistake. Ginsuloft (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your post Ginsuloft. The IP seemed to be adding things randomly to articles and to redirects. There were also adding "red" or nonexistent cats. I only glance briefly at the article in question and failed to see the mention of time travel. My mistake. If you haven't already done so please restore the item and thanks for your vigilance. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:20, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem, I restored it. It's easy to forget WP:AGF with IPs since there's so much vandalism from them, also, while the IP may have done some incompetent edits, I've been monitoring him/her and he/she seems to be editing in good faith, even if a little over-enthusiastic. Ginsuloft (talk) 22:26, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again. I could tell that they were trying. That is why I didn't leave a batch of warnings on their talk page. On the other hand my online time is a bit frenetic at the moment so it is hard to take the time to walk them through everything. I am glad that you are there to help when needed. MarnetteD | Talk 23:09, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks...

For the Barnstar and the kind words and thoughts. I hope I've done some good. Those two fields still seem to be in "Blank template with all parameters" at Template:Infobox person, so I'm not sure where the issue now stands. But I appreciate it — usually my stomach sinks when I see there's a message for me, so this was a pleasant surprise! --Tenebrae (talk) 19:44, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I am not vandalising nor disruptively editing

Hi. The reason I edited part of Gina's bio is because it had no relevance whatsoever to the programme "Big Brother UK" or Gina's time in the house. It is neither vandalism nor test editing, as it is evidently clear that the bio has been written by someone with a vendetta against this particular housemate and I have edited out the unnecessary parts due to a number of complaints on various online big brother forums, stating that this particular part of the bio was unnecessary and had no relevance to the show, and was clearly put into her bio just to make her look bad and give her a negative persona. There have also been questions asked as to why Gina's questionable lifestyle has been posted in her bio but Dexter's questionable lifestyle hasn't? Ok, hope that clears everything up. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.83.99.34 (talk) 23:18, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

You need to make that case on the talk page and then other editors will work towards a consensus per WP:BRD. Continued removal until that consensus is settled on is disruptive and you can be blocked for that. MarnetteD | Talk 23:24, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

What "talk page"? Where can I find this and make my case? 5.83.99.34 (talk) 23:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

The talk page for the article - the tab for it is at the top right of the page and it reads "talk" MarnetteD | Talk 23:37, 29 July 2013 (UTC)