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Most of the information that has been used by Papillon Gallery has been taken from Askart.com biography for Robert Edward Weaver. That text was inputed to Askart.com by Markbone1, son of Robert Edward Weaver through their administrator.

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File permission problem with File:Robert Edward Weaver,1978.jpg

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Now resolved.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly unfree File:Robert Edward Weaver, VH3 Squadron Insignia.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:"The Butchering" c. 1947 by Robert Edward Weaver.jpeg

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Possibly unfree File:"Riding Clowns" c. 1937 by Robert Edward Weaver.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:"Daniel In the Lion's Den," by Robert Edward Weaver c. 1952.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:"Unis" c. 1950, by Robert Edward Weaver.jpeg

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Possibly unfree File:"Rex Mays," c. 1962, by Robert Edward Weaver.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:"Crash" c. 1930, Oil paint on board, by Robert Edward Weaver.jpeg

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Possibly unfree File:Robert Edward Weaver, as Ringmaster of the Peru Circus, c. 1965.jpg

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Reference errors on 25 August

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Works by Robert Edward Weaver

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I note you say your are a relation to the artist concerned (File_talk:"Rex_Mays,"_c._1962,_by_Robert_Edward_Weaver.jpg).

As I understand it , Wikipedia has to be able to show it has explicit permission to display otherwise copyrighted works, and that the original creators of those works have actually agreed to license them under a 'free' license. Your uploads were queried because it wasn't clear that the permission HAD been obtained.

However, as you've now left an indication on the Talk pages, this can be resolved rather more quickly, by responding in the disscussion threads that the warning message link to. I would suggest reading Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials before responding though.

You state in the talk page comment that you are the son of the artist concerned, does this mean you were the Executor of your father estate, or otherwise inherited the copyright in your fathers works? If so a semi-formal declaration to this effect, along with an appropriate 'free' license grant should ideally be sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org to confirm that you (and by extension your Father's estate) are happy for the images concerned to appear on Wikipedia under the 'free' license terms indicated. You could use an appropriately modified form of the wording suggested on Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries for example.

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File permission problem with File:Robert Edward Weaver,1978.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Robert Edward Weaver,1978.jpg, which you've attributed to Mark Edward Weaver. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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Image licencing

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On your user page you state "All images were produced, and are either owned by the author Mark Edward Weaver, or being used through a "rite of use" for educational purposes only to illustrate the work of REW. They are not to be reproduced without permission of the author Mark Edward Weaver or their owners". Do you realise that the Creative Commons licence you have used on all the images has no such limitations; and you have granted the right for anyone to use any of the images for any purpose anywhere, including commercial reuse with no constraint other than to attribute you and without any need to seek permission? Nthep (talk) 14:32, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly unfree File:"Abstract" by Robert Edward Weaver, c. 1982.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:"Leaf People" by Robert Edward Weaver c. 1979.jpg

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Connection with subject of an article

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I assume you've read the advice on how to avoid the perception of a conflict of interest? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:"A Night At the Circus" (aka) "Riding Clowns" by Robert Edward Weaver, c. 1937.jpg

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A tag has been placed on File:"A Night At the Circus" (aka) "Riding Clowns" by Robert Edward Weaver, c. 1937.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

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A tag has been placed on File:Photographic image of American artist Robert Edward Weaver c. 1980.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

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Possibly unfree File:Robert Edward Weaver,1978.jpg

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Non-free rationale for File:Robert Edward Weaver, 1945, Member of VH-3 Rescue Squadron.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:Robert Edward Weaver, 1945, Member of VH-3 Rescue Squadron.jpg

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Deletion pending for File:"Abstract" by Robert Edward Weaver, c. 1982.jpg

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Deletion pending for File:"Leaf People" by Robert Edward Weaver c. 1979.jpg

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File permission problem with File:"Lost Parade" c. 1973, by Robert Edward Weaver.jpg

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Image source problem with File:"Otto with Tuba" c. 1976, Oil on board by Robert Edward Weaver.jpg

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