User talk:Marieke77

@yamia I think you are being too harsh on newbies. Apart from promising I won't do any disruptive editing or removal of wiki approved sources in the future, what other ways are there for redemption? Make a number of decent contributions on other pages fe?

January 2023

Hello, I'm MrOllie. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. MrOllie (talk) 21:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Li Hongzhi shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Doug Weller talk 21:35, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. MrOllie (talk) 21:37, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Doug Weller talk 21:36, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

January 2023

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Li Hongzhi) for Disruptive editing.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Doug Weller talk 21:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doug, I haven't been editing for ages so sorry did not mean to engage in an edit war! Just discovered the edit summary and filled it out properly the last edits. I'm just trying to remove two bits of content but it's inserted all over on several Falun Gong related pages! It's the NBC news article that because it was indirectly funded eg influenced by the CCP ("This comes as NBC’s parent company, NBCUniversal, continues to work with a consortium of Chinese state-owned companies on a multibillion-dollar project in Beijing.") about the Epoch Times. And the other bit of information comes from the disputed Wuhan based and thus possibly compromised author and editor of 2 anti-Falun Gong articles claiming weird things about the practice and aliens, anti medication, mixed races etc theories. The Li Hongzhi page has been targeted before by Chinese trolls where the picture was replaced by a dogs head f.e. Because of the horid persecution in China the copying of CCP propaganda abroad could costs lives in China - this was the reason I was editing.

ps: read that you are recovering in hospital and wishing you speedy recovery. Below some hopefully helpful analysis on the matter fyi.

https://tv.faluninfo.net/why-u-s-media-peddles-ccp-hate/

https://www.theepochtimes.com/nbc-news-repeats-chinese-communist-party-propaganda-in-hit-piece-on-the-epoch-times_3049047.html

https://twitter.com/joshjphilipp/status/1163857410676711424 Marieke77 (talk) 22:16, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Marieke77 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hi Doug, I haven't been editing for ages so sorry did not mean to engage in an edit war! Just discovered the edit summary and filled it out properly the last edits. I'm just trying to remove two bits of content but it's inserted all over on several Falun Gong related pages! It's the NBC news article that because it was indirectly funded eg influenced by the CCP ("This comes as NBC’s parent company, NBCUniversal, continues to work with a consortium of Chinese state-owned companies on a multibillion-dollar project in Beijing.") about the Epoch Times. And the other bit of information comes from the disputed Wuhan based and thus possibly compromised author and editor of 2 anti-Falun Gong articles claiming weird things about the practice and aliens, anti medication, mixed races etc theories. The Li Hongzhi page has been targeted before by Chinese trolls where the picture was replaced by a dogs head f.e. Because of the horid persecution in China the copying of CCP propaganda abroad could costs lives in China - this was the reason I was editing. :: ps: read that you are recovering in hospital and wishing you speedy recovery. Below some hopefully helpful analysis on the matter fyi. :: https://tv.faluninfo.net/why-u-s-media-peddles-ccp-hate/ :: https://www.theepochtimes.com/nbc-news-repeats-chinese-communist-party-propaganda-in-hit-piece-on-the-epoch-times_3049047.html :: https://twitter.com/joshjphilipp/status/1163857410676711424

Decline reason:

Those sources do not meet WP:RS criteria. You're not going to be unblocked as long as you plan on continuing to disrupt that page. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Marieke77 (talk) 22:19, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Falun Gong publications are not reliable sources. You also removed material published by [[Los Angeles (magazine) and the Asia Society, both reliable sources.

If you are referring to Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, she's a reporter for Axios (website), a reliable source. Repeat this type of edit elsewhere and I'm afraid you'll be topic banned. Thanks for your comments on my health, but I've been out of hospital for a while. That operation failed to remove all of my cancer from my liver. Doug Weller talk 11:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear the operation was not a complete success and wishing you well. About the block well I apparently deleted a bit rashly the whole thing repeating CCP propaganda and deleted the Axios and Asia Society sources. Maybe it is better to just let those be yes but add information about how fe the weird alien thing, not taking medicin, race mixing (I just realized most of my Falun Gong friends couples are mixed race couples) is used to defame the persecuted group? F.e. add a relevant quote from the main text Zhuan Falun: “Can hospitals heal illnesses? Of course they can. If hospitals could not heal illnesses, why would people believe in them and go there for treatments? Hospitals are still able to heal illnesses, but their means of treatment belong to the level of everyday people while illnesses are supernatural." The not using medicine claim has been put out by the CCP in the beginning days of the persecution to counter the huge popularity of the practice and justify persecution (you can find information on the "1400 deaths" propaganda spin). Here is another case of Western media copying Beijing info and Australians responding https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2020/07/15/the-teachings-of-the-falun-gong-movement-are-investigated-on-foreign-correspondent/ or this one: https://www.quora.com/Falun-Gong-makes-people-refuse-to-see-a-doctor-refuse-to-go-to-the-hospital-How-do-you-evaluate-this-kind-of-thinking. That is the issue of not taking medicin. And you could add sources on the topic of mixed races, homosexuality etc. It would make it a more informative page. Now these derogatory claims are just bluntly put out there and misleading readers in my totally subjective opinion of course. Marieke77 (talk) 21:44, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remember you can use the talk page. I’m not editing the article. Doug Weller talk 21:56, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Marieke77 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm sorry for removing texts on this page and ignoring the messages on my talk page. I was not aware of the talk page. It had been years since my last edit. Would very much like to be unblocked and make decent contributions

Decline reason:

This does not address your disruptive editing, your removal of well-sourced text, and your lack of understanding of WP:RS. Yamla (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.