User talk:Mammal4/Archive2

June 2006 - October 2006

Civil parishes

I've noticed that you're creating a lot of articles on civil parishes, one-sentence articles that simply state that it is a parish. Is there any claim of notability besides the fact that they are a parish? I mean, there are millions of churches, parishes, templets, etc. but Wikipedia isn't a ubdiscriminate place for information. Hbdragon88 19:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

What am I supposed to say? I was patrolling Special:Newpages and saw that you were creating a bunch of one-sentence articles. Rather than mass-nomating them for speedy deletion or prod, I decided to ask you directly. I got a nice answer back, so I left the articles alone entirely. Thanks for entirely clarifying the answer.

The situation with Ahoerstemeier is different. I was accusing him of misusing the administrator's rollback button in using it in cases where it wasn't "simple vandalism" as Wikipedia:Administrators clearly states. It wasn't just "cold editing" as you put it. If I wanted to be cold I wouldn't have even asked. I merely figured that my lack of response was sufficient, but for you I'll answer to every query and explanation. Hbdragon88 16:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome

I monitor new pages so see a lot of articles that need expansion (that's another tag) or have the problems I cited above. Quite often new articles are great initial stubs and can be turned into terrific Wikipedia articles. But sometimes they are blatant advertising (I use the advert tag for those) or bios of non-notable bands or individuals. My first reaction to the Langdon article was that it was probably a candidate for speedy delete but Google showed me that Langdon is indeed notable. But autobiography is frowned upon and in any case the article needs a lot of cleanup. Brian 16:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)btball

Autobiography

Hi, for deletion tags WP:CSD is one good place to start. Autobiography is talked about at Wikipedia:Autobiography. And a general deletion discsion is here Wikipedia:Deletion_policy I tagged this article as the creation entry makes it look like the author of the article is also the subject of the article. At first I was tempted to tag it for speedy deletion as db-bio ...but it does pass the notability test so should be discussed first. I hope this helps Brian 16:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)btball

Cleanup tags

I realized I didn't answer your question completely. Here's a source of cleanup tags commonly used for new articles: Wikipedia:Cleanup_resources#Tags_for_articles_that_need_cleaning_up The ones I use all the time are wikify, cleanup, linkless and sources but you'll see there's a much longer list of possible tags. Brian 16:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)btball

Arnie Spanier

The Arnie Spanier article should not be deleted, as it is an article on a person. I added the correct stub for the article. Explain to me why you put the tag on in the first place.--XMBRIAN 16:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Foot references

Have you obtained complete pdfs of the papers that BrittonLaRoche purports review Jackson's work? If not, I'd be happy to e-mail you copies. Pete.Hurd 03:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Help

Hi Mammal can't get the references tags right can you help?? I seem to be missing parts of my edits when I save the page after inserting them. Reedgunner

Thanks for the barnstar the other night - many thanks! --Charlesknight 08:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Ioka

Yes, images are covered by the copyright of the website owner and since it's quite easy to take a photograph at the location itself, I don't think there's a very good case for fair use. What you said to them is entirely correct. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Railway stops

I replied on my talk page. Haukur 16:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks Mammal - Yes looks my kind of thing will have a go as I have access to such 'marvelous' information as past chairman of West Penwith Rural District Council Reedgunner 08:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Helpme

What kind of help are you looking for? I am willing to help in anyway possible. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 14:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I saw the comment you made in the Edit history of your user page. I am not experienced with coding for tables, so I am sorry that I am not able to work thst problem out. I replaced the helpme tag so that somebody else will come along and reorganize the section. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 15:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Your userpage and helpme

Hello Mammal4, the problems with your user page are occurring because you enclosed each box in a <tr>, which starts a new table row. Try putting your table data tags in one row: <tr><td>Box</td><td>Box</td></tr>, etc. Also, please note that the {{helpme}} tag is meant to be used to get help with basic editing techniques, and some people shy away from questions that involve user pages. The most appropriate channel would probably be the Technical Village Pump, but remember that the main objective here is to create an encyclopedia. Cheers, and happy editing, Tangotango 15:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

No worries. :) Tangotango 15:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Penwith biodiversity

Hi. Yes, I can do that. Badger me for it when you are ready. SP-KP 18:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Kerrier Hundred

Hi Mammaml Thanks very much for inserting the maps on this page I am still a bit of a muppet when it comes to tables, images and the rest so I appreciate this Reedgunner 14:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

PS - I think the idea of wikiproject Cornwall is a good one I saw your suggest it on (I think) the Cornwall talk page BUT if it were to be created there would be a running dispute over the England / Cornwall thing and any edit that does not present some of the further reaches of Cornish Nationalism as fact would be jumped on - consensus would be hard but not impossible. Reedgunner 14:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Celtic toes again

Just wondering if you've noticed the recent edits by User:FelsenVonEngland?

Hey Mammal4, clearing up the Phyllis Jackson stuff on Morton's toe is on my todo list (and actually will get done) I have a couple of papers to chase down (old ones, I have to make a physical trip to the library) then I'll write a section on incidence in various populations, that ought to incorporate the information in a general and verified way. Pete.Hurd 15:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Sock Central

Hi again, Mammal4 - I noticed your BrittonLaRoche-related comment on Pete.Hurd's talk page, so I figured I'd drop you a line. Since I've been dealing with some problem sockpuppets lately, and since there are multiple editors interested in the BrittonLaRoche debacle, I put together a subpage that can be used to discuss sock issues. If you want, you can leave messages there - hopefully that'll be a good way for comments/questions/sightings to be seen by everyone involved. See you around! - Tapir Terrific 15:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

RfD

Hey Mammal4, I think you forgot the second step in RfD listing procedure, so I did it, creating Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion#Cornish_toe_.E2.86.92_Mortons_toe. Rock on, Pete.Hurd 16:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Cornish Rebellion of 1497

Just curious, what was wrong with the word 'common' after Blackheath?

Hi, thanks for the message about Cornish emigration, am still quite new to Wikipedia so it's great to get some feedback!--DuncanHill 11:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

"Test" message

Hi. The "rv test" summary I leave is a polite version of "rv vandalism" (rv = revert), when I am unsure if the writer is deliberately messing up an article, or is just unsure about Wikipedia standards. Noisy | Talk 13:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Any idea where this edit war originated? It is getting tiresome. I've reverted to my not so polite message. Noisy | Talk 17:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Chew valley map

He there, thanks for the compliments! The map is made up of two components; the topographical layer is from NASA SRTM data which is all public domain, and the 3R (road, rail, river) layer which is a trace over of 1890 OS mapping. The topo layer is simple to create, as I already have data downloaded for the whole of the UK, so it is a 2 minute job to select the area of interest and render it. The 3R layer is a little more complicated, for the Chew map I sourced the 1890 maps from the website [1] who have copyright claims, but ultimately I am deriving the information from the 1890 map itself, which is now PD, not showing the actual map, which would then be a copyvio (those are the rules a I understand them). Once I had decided on a scale and produced the topo map I then stitched together the 1890 map tiles and (using some geographical feature such as a coastline or river course) scaled the 1890 map down to get it to fit the topo map. Then, with the 1890 map imported into Inkscape it is just a case of tracing over details that you want to be in the final map before placing the topo layer below and exporting the final image. I am happy to help you out if you fancy having a go at creating one, and if you want me to create it then you can just ask (I don't want to stifle others creativity, but the process can have a steep learning curve if you haven't used something like Inkscape before). SFC9394 14:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Penwith ecology

Hi - thanks for the reminder. I will try to do this some time. I really need to sit down with some source material and do some research though, so it might take a while. I won't get annoyed with the occasional bit of badgering! SP-KP 21:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism of poll

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Removing the votes of the 14 people who have already voted is vandalism, plain and simple. Stop it. --Mais oui! 10:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Mais Oui - Giving me a vandalism warning here and at the straw poll page for what is obviously me reverting your unecessary restructuring of the poll is completely over the top and really isn't helpful. Anyone who doubts my intentions need only look at my past record to see what sort of editor I am - its there for all to see. Why not discuss here why you think your restructuring is better? Take care Mammal4 19:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

UK Geography Poll

Hi. Thought I'd post here rather than on the poll, because everything seems to be getting very heated. You suggested keeping the poll open to the stated 19th August, but I was wondering about closing it now to stop accusations about sock puppetry and vote vandalism etc which is making a mockery of the poll. I think that the result seems clear (as I had already posted) in that approximately 80% of people want Home nation +/- UK, just over 50% want UK in some form and I don't think that will change over another few days.

It looks like we will have to leave to members judgements whether they use Home Nation or Home Nation and UK, and use that as policy. It would be worth mentioning that as these are subjective, the future editing of such choices from one to the other by other members is frowned upon (similar to the date issue (if I am right there is no distinction between August 15 and 15 August).

Thanks for your work. Mdcollins1984 10:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message. Due to a sudden surge, (ie all votes within 48 hours) it seems that tiered government seems like it will be the most popular. I'm not going to accuse people of sock puppetry etc, but only Gulval, Foobar, and Yorkshire Phoenix have edited anything other than the poll (out of ten people, that worry's me a lot). Drawing conclusions (such as those above) are now going to be even harder if this result is valid. What can be done?

You might also like to take a look at User talk:Mais oui!#UK Geography Terminology for a conversation about the implementing/imposing some of the more popular consensuses.

Best, Mdcollins1984 10:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Having closed the poll, I have done some analysis into the voting patterns - the results being not very surprising, but certainly worth posting. I've added them to the page. Mdcollins1984 10:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

England/UK

Cor! What a lot of fuss! Thanks for the information, I will read and digest. Regards, Mr Stephen 14:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you know where the debate has been moved to? I can see that Steinsky has moved it, but it's not at all clear where he's moved it to. I did ask on the UKGeography page, but Steinsky has just reverted the page to remove my question! Thanks, DuncanHill 10:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back - I've edited the talk page on UKGeography so it shows up a bit more clearly - I'm sure there was no intent to hide it! ;) DuncanHill 10:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Penzance seal

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Unspecified source for Image:102 0288.JPG

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Image:102 0288.JPG

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Navigation bar

Please desist from removing the Cornwall navigation bar from articles. It is there for a reason. If you look around wikipedia you shall see plenty of such things, and you would be treading on a great many toes by removing them all. They are functional and useful. For example, would you remove the two from this article - History of the Jews in Scotland - simply because the links are elsewhere. I'd hope not. Please grant the same respect to the Cornish articles. --MacRusgail 13:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Joining Penwith project

Mammal4, OK, I'll join the project, though I'm unlikely to be a heavy contributor. My interest arises because I spent most of my summer holidays as a boy on a campsite on Upton Towans. My father was from Falmouth, so this was convenient for visiting his parents. Alan Pascoe 21:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

St Buryan

I should congratulate you on a marvelous article! It is very nicely written and cited (a rarity in these parts). There are, howver, a few quibbles I see that you might work on.

• What is currently the lead should really be placed in a section on geography. The lead should summarize the whole article and not just discuss geography. In addition, there should be a few lines on climate.
• The culture and government and politics sections should be expanded. Take a glance at Chew Valley which is a FA. While it's about a whole valley, it's similar to this article.
• Also there should be a section on transportation, are there railroads, majors highways, etc. nearby?
• There are a number of red-links, either unlink them or create stubs at the link.

  The article should be copy-edited by someone else. The writing is very good, but there still were a few places where improvement could be made. I would be more than happy to do it. Just let me know.

Other than those things, I think it's a good solid article and certainly very worthy of being sent to FAC once these things are fixed. Cheers! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 20:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hello　- Yeh I wil trawl around for as nuch info as I can on the politics section Reedgunner 11:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Constitutional Status of Cornwall

Hi mammal4,

First a belated, and sincere, thanks for sending me a welcome pack, which I shall browse through over time and, as needed.

On the matter of the above subject: I am tempted to have a go at rewriting the article and presumably there is a temporary location where this can be written and reviewed as part of a discussion to agree final draft etc.? Would this be done in the sandbox? --TGG 14:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mammal, Gwavas article created - I live in the damn place so not to hard to finish. All the best Simon

Agreed we don't need a huge flag St Piran's flag on each Cornwall page !!!! Reedgunner 11:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Article for deletion

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Helston talk page vandalism/abuse

It was a colleague of mine who was suggesting I was spending a little more time on the internet than I should have. I will advise her of the sanctity of Wiki, and apologise for being found out.LessHeard vanU 19:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)