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Hello, MRDXII, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! c y m r u . l a s s (talk me, stalk me) 06:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:History books on religion

Category:History books on religion, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

History books

Category:British history books is for 'books about British history'. Category:American history books which you have created seems to be 'American books about history' or even 'History books by American authors'. This will lead to confusion: I don't expect to find the Armada in 'American history'. Occuli (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

To me it leads to less confusion because I find the grammar of "American(or British) history books" to be ambiguous as to whether the adjective is on books themselves, or the content of the books. Are the history books American/British, or is the history contained within the books American/British? So to me specifying categories such as "History books about America/the United Kingdom" for history books about American/British history and leaving "American/British history books" as history books that are American/British satisfactorily distinguishes between the two rather than having one catch-all category for history books about something that is X and history books that are X. To me this seems more appropriate as we are trying to create categories for the articles about the books themselves, not about the subjects the books refer to, so the categorical adjectives should apply to the classification of the subject of articles, which is the book, rather than the classification of the material the book is on. Also, this is keeping in line with the precedent set further upstream in the categorical chain in having both Category:Books by country and Category:Books about countries. MRDXII (talk) 01:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:United States history book stubs

An editor objected to your proposal to speedily rename Category:United States history book stubs to Category:History book about the United States stubs on the grounds that changes to stub categories should be made through Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. I have removed the listing from the speedy renaming page, but you are free to re-nominate the category at Stub types for deletion. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can help in any way. Best, -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Ukraine- A History cover.jpg

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File source problem with File:Ukraine- A History cover.jpg

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Fair use rationale for File:Was I the Wave cover.jpg

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File source problem with File:Was I the Wave cover.jpg

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Category:History books by country

Yes, a simple CFD is the best way to go. There's always the exception of G7, so any category that nobody else has edited is safe: however, be sure to tag it as G7. Nyttend (talk) 04:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you think the PROPOSED title you created is confusing, see Category:History books by country for discussion re old title and alternative Hugo999 (talk) 10:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:History books about the Dominion of Canada

Category:History books about the Dominion of Canada, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:History books about philosophy

Category:History books about philosophy, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Greg Bard (talk) 20:10, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:History books about Confucianism

Category:History books about Confucianism, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Greg Bard (talk) 20:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Category:History books about people

Category:History books about people, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Secret account 04:57, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Category:History books about society

Category:History books about society, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:54, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

CRHP

Hello. Thanks for your note. The CRHP is a great initiative, and it's a great source. Of course WLM used CRHP -- as a source. It's the one, semi-complete list of historic sites in this country that we have. We use it all the time on Wikimedia Commons, because it serves as a great reference. But at Commons we never categorize images based on the CRHP (we categorize images by their actual notable and relevant characteristics), and here on Wikipedia we should not be misleadingly referring to it as some sort of historic recognition. Referring to it in a manner that suggests it confers some sort of status is plainly incorrect and tremendously misleading. In of of itself it confers absolutely no historic status or notability. None whatsoever. It's an online directory. A great and useful directory, but a directory nonetheless. It's a secondary source like Wikipedia. The CRHP is a means of consolidating disparate information from across the the country in one place, which is awesome, but we should not be confusing the means with the information. Saying that something is on the CRHP is like saying in the Stephen Harper article that Harper is important because he is listed in the Parliamentary phone book. Doing so would completely miss the point. Harper is notable because he is PM and MP for Calgary Southwest. The Parliamentary directory is a reflection of that, not in and of itself a separate distinction. Even though there are few Canadians privileged enough to be included in the directory of Parliamentarians.

A lot of the confusion lies in the fact that the CRHP is called a "register" like the NRHP is the U.S. (which is an actual heritage register in the traditional sense of the term, inclusion on which does confer historic status). Nothing is ever officially "listed" on the CRHP, or named to the CRHP. There is no site in Canada that has ever gone through an official process to be added to the CRHP. It's a database of sites that have gone through other actual official processes to become historically significant. And the CRHP is, by the way, quite incomplete. For example, there are more than a hundred NHSCs that aren't yet included in the CRHP. So, just to name an example, the Bedford Petroglyphs NHSC in Nova Scotia are not included in the CRHP. But the Osgoode Hall NHSC in Toronto is. If CRHP did actually confer historic status, then the Bedford Petroglyphs would have less status than Osgoode Hall, which is rubbish because the two sites are equally NHSCs. But a reader would be mislead into thinking Osgoode Hall had some national heritage status that the Bedford Petroglyphs did not.

Don't get me wrong. I think CRHP is wonderful, and I am on it several times a week, every week. I love it. It's one of the best things that ever happened to Canada-related Wikipedia articles. But it is a source, not a status.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

As an aside, what I find really troubling about these references to CRHP in articles (always added in good faith, mind you), is that inevitably people never actually mention the actual historic designations that got the buildings or sites included on the CRHP in the first place. Talk about missing the forest for the trees (although mentioning both the CRHP and the actual historic designation is also confusing and mixing apples/oranges). The articles are so much poorer for it. Kind of like of saying William Gladstone has his own article in the Encyclopedia Britannica, but failing to mention that he served as British PM four times. Rant over. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:History books about economics

Category:History books about economics, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Tim! (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:History books about the Lost City of Z

Category:History books about the Lost City of Z, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Tim! (talk) 10:12, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Category:History books about mathematics has been nominated for discussion

Category:History books about mathematics, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:31, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Category:History books about colonialism has been nominated for discussion

Category:History books about colonialism, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:00, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Category:History books about Ethiopia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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A tag has been placed on Category:History books about French Indochina indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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