User talk:Loggie/Archive 1

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Knitting pictures

I see that you're the originator of Image:Howtoknit.jpg. Do you still have the original lying around? There are two errors in the captioning: where you say "clockwise", it should read "counter-clockwise", and everywhere you write "stich" it should be "stitch". I'd edit it myself (and may yet do so), but it'll be easier to make the fonts and such match up if you do it. ;) /blahedo (t) 04:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Nice on the purl pictures. I'm actually right this moment uploading some pix of how to knit English-style, at which point I'll probably move your pictures over to a (new) Continental-style page, and it's nice that both are there. As regards clockwise-ness, I'm looking at the picture and I still see CCW, but I think I see where the confusion is. I look at the motion my hand makes to make the stitch, and I look at my hand palm-down, and it moves CCW. If I make the same exact motion but hold the needles so that I'm looking up at my palm, the same exact motion now appears to be clockwise. I don't have any good solution to this, especially not one that will fit into a one- or two-word blurb under a picture! Any ideas? /blahedo (t) 04:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Spinning wheel

Thank you for your edits in the spinning wheel article. You seem very knowledgeable abut the subject and perhaps you could direct me to a book title, a journal or a dependable websites to add in the "external links" and "references" section so that the casual reader may have the benefit of extended reading in case she/he develops an attachment to the subject. This is just a request therefore there is no hurry to do so; I would appreciate it if the reader was guided to a wealth of additional reading material.

My compliments and best wishes!

Moerou toukon 03:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Loggie,

I am a new user on Wikipedia. I have recently contributed an article called “Seam types” that is about seam types within the apparel industry. I noticed that you’ve contributed to the Textile Manufacturing Terminology page as well as the Textile Manufacturing page. I was wondering if you would take a look at my article and add any information you might have about the topic or advise in ways it could improve.

It was nice to read about you, looking forward to your reply.

Thank you, Snap pea 05:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)Snap_PeaSnap pea 05:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Wilson Yarn Clearer

You deleted material (not mine) on the above from textile manufacturing, and rightly so. It gave much too much detail to be approriate to a general article. As you said, it belonged somewhere. I have accordingly forked it into a new article. See my comments on its talk page. You may wish to take this further. I am not expert in the subject. Peterkingiron 18:08, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I actually know nothing about yarn cleaners, and only a bit about the mechanized process of making yarn, though I know all about doing so by hand. I've done a spellcheck on the article, and I can start trying to wikify it, but other than that I'm not sure what to do with it. Loggie 22:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC) - Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peterkingiron"

I agree that it is a problem. I think we must merely hope there is some one out there who does know about it. Perhaps we should look for the author of this passage. Peterkingiron 22:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I also concluded the author was Pwilon. Peterkingiron 23:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Textile Arts newsletter

Happy New Year! WikiProject Textile Arts is starting 2008 by initiating a project newsletter. The project had 7 new articles at Template:Did you know in December and we hope to see more of you in 2008. Cheers, Durova^Charge! 20:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Textile Arts newsletter

Hello again, this month's textile arts newsletter highlights the expansion of top-importance knitting and good article candidacy for Palestinian costumes. We've had several more new articles appear at Template:Did you know and other exciting developments. Regards, Durova^Charge! 23:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Short draw (spinning)

On 29 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Short draw (spinning), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Textile arts newsletter

Hi, the textile arts project had an exciting month in February: 7 featured pictures, 2 good articles, and 4 Did you know? entries. There's still time to join our featured portal drive. Our March newsletter has all the developments. Regards, Durova^Charge! 00:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Heddle

On 6 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Heddle, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 11:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Velcro

Can you please use some more references for this article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 09:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I can look for some- my recent (only) edit to the article was just to clean up a reference that someone else added. However I don't have access to any non-online references currently. Loggie (talk) 09:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I added some more references, among other things. Look good? Loggie (talk) 21:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. This improves the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 17:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

If you can think of something else to add info on, with a few more paragraphs we could get to a 5x expansion. Loggie (talk) 17:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Bouclé

On 9 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bouclé, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The Did you know? hook based on a fact from the article you created or substantially expanded, Bouclé, has been added to the Wikipedia Portal, Portal:Textile Arts. Thank you for your contributions in this topic! If you know of another relevant fact from an article that has appeared at Did you know?, then please suggest it at the associated portal talk page.

--Cirt (talk) 16:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Thank-you both. Loggie (talk) 17:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 12 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article swift (textiles), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 12:40, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Your lace articles

In case you don't see my response at my Talkpage, let me say here on yours, thank you for noticing ! I was careful not to make changes in the meaning, as I know nothing in this field. I did know J-F Regnard, though! But Brussels lace calls out for your attention.--Wetman (talk) 17:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

5/15 DYK

On 15 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Velcro, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 02:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Prod

Most of your questions can be answered at the prod policy page, WP:PROD. If any user removes a prod tag for any reason (unless it's blatant vandalism like blanking the page or something), then the prod is considered contested and the tag should not be reinserted into the article. If you still think the article should be deleted, you can take it through the AFD process where an actual debate can take place and the deletion of the article can be more thoroughly enforced. Thanks. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Mechlin lace, Valenciennes lace

On 15 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with facts from the articles Mechlin lace, and Valenciennes lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 15:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

5/17 DYK

On 17 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Brussels lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 22:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 19 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chantilly lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 06:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Blonde lace

On 22 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Blonde lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 15:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

5/26 DYK

On 26 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Antwerp lace , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 00:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Bucks point lace

On 27 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bucks point lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 13:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

pics

Its only a suggestion. There must be old pics in books I would have thought or you might have some that would fit in a scanner. Hope this helps Victuallers (talk) 14:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I went to see if I could find any free use pifcs you could use. Are any of these of use? Victuallers (talk) 15:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Most of those seem to be knitted lace, with some crocheted too. Not much bobbin lace sadly, and of the ones that are bobbin lace, I haven't seen a picture that would apply here. Loggie (talk) 15:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Torchon lace

On 30 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Torchon lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 06:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your edits on Indian coracles article. Can you think of a good DYK hook for this? Cheers Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 21:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I found the article off the DYK page, where it had already been nominated with the hook "...that Indian coracles, which take only about a day to build, are one of the major tourist attractions on the Kaveri River?" If it weren't for the fact that someone nominated it, I wouldn't have stumbled across it. And thank you to you for not minding all my comments and tweaks. Loggie (talk) 21:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh OK! I did ask John Carter too. Didn't realise he would have already done that. BTW, I really thought that your comments were constructive and so were your edits. I surely don't own that article. Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 21:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, saying thanks doesn't hurt, and some people can be touchy about their brand new article, especially since I suggested a name change and everything. Loggie (talk) 21:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

5/31 DYK

On 31 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Binche lace, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 00:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Nap (textile)

On 31 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nap (textile), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 13:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for creating this article. I am SHOCKED that there was no coverage of such a basic topic. Mangostar (talk) 16:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

My aim is to please. I was pretty surprised too when I went to link to it and found there was no article about it. Thanks for the recognition, Loggie (talk) 19:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Great work

You've been doing some terrific work on textiles, especially on lace. Thanks! - PKM (talk) 16:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you for noticing, and the compliment. Creating all those red-linked articles in the lace template should keep off the streets for awhile, no? Loggie (talk) 19:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

BP Pedestrian Bridge

Thanks for the editorial assistance. We are thinking about a WP:FT drive for Millennium Park so your kind of assistance would also be useful on Crown Fountain, Jay Pritzker Pavilion and Lurie Garden. Cloud Gate and Millennium Park are getting close to a level where your assistance would be helpful as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I went through Crown Fountain and Millennium Park, if I get a chance I'll give the others a look too. I'm currently preparing to go on vacation for awhile, so we'll see. If I had more time, I'd try and rearrange things in the articles-the current flow isn't optimal: occasionally there are paragraphs with three topics and no bridge between them, for example. Loggie (talk) 09:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to pop in real fast to say thanks for taking a look at Cloud Gate and cleaning it up a bit! Torsodog (talk) 08:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI, [[Month DD]][[YYYY]] automatically produces a comma. You don't need to add one.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Lurie Garden

Hopefully, pictures will be up today or tomorrow about the boardwalk. Thanks for the help.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

McCormick Tribune Ice Rink

McCormick Tribune Ice Rink is now up. Take a look. I don't know if you like politics, but I could use some eyes on Jack Kemp which I hope to renominate at WP:FAC later this month.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Millennium Park

Wrigley Square is now up. As our star editor, what would you think of adding an appropriate paragraph for the new articles within the Millennium Park overview.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Now we have Cloud Gate, BP Pedestrian Bridge, Lurie Garden, McCormick Tribune Ice Rink, Wrigley Square and Harris Theater (Chicago) all in the WP:GAC queue. The latter ones could use some more beef. Let me know if you can find anything to help out, because they are kind of borderline.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

6/5 DYK

On 5 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Heckling comb, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 01:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Shortcut

You can follow along at WP:CHIFTD, McCormick Tribune Ice Rink just got promoted.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I hope your travels are going well. Just letting you know I appreciate your efforts and new articles are up at WP:CHIFTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

GA Thanks

Your edit counts belie your contributions to our efforts to pursue WP:CHIFTD. Please continue to help out where you can.

This user helped promote Lurie Garden to good article status.

This user helped promote BP Pedestrian Bridge to good article status.

This user helped promote Cloud Gate to good article status.

This user helped promote Wrigley Square to good article status.

This user helped promote Boeing Galleries to good article status.

This user helped promote Harris Theater (Chicago) to good article status.

This user helped promote McDonald's Cycle Center to good article status.

This user helped promote McCormick Tribune Plaza & Ice Rink to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll look at the ones I missed later today, and if there are any other articles you want me to look at, feel free to drop me a line. Loggie (talk) 17:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Trump Chicago

I don't know if you ever participate in WP:FAC discussion or if you are from Chicago, but you may be interested in the discussion about Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago). You may also want to take a stab at a copy edit.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't live in Chicago-I spent a few frustrating hours in OHare yesterday (does that count?), but otherwise I haven't been in Chicago for a long time. Nor have I participated in WP:FAC discussions-I like to watch things and figure out exactly how it all works before doing stuff-currently I'm in the watching phase on FAC discussions, maybe sometime soon I'll actually comment. I'll go ahead and look at the article itself later today though, and see if I can improve it any. Loggie (talk) 17:46, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)

Thanks for dropping by the FAC discussion. Feel free to make one of your editorial visits to the article. Also, feel free to state a support/oppose opinion on its candidacy for featured article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Someone impersonating you?

Hi. I spotted a warning message left by you at User talk:Fry2000, however on looking at the edit history it appears an IP user has been signing comments with your name.[1] I am assuming that it isn't you that left the message as you have left warning messages on the IP's talk page. If you didn't leave the message you may wish to take further action, or at least change the signature on the IP's message. Regards. Road Wizard (talk) 07:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

hello, that was my mistake. sorry, i put the message on there without realising there was a signature already attached. its not clear how these things work sometimes is it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.231.2.252 (talk) 12:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Loggie, as the IP user has now acknowledged the mistake and apologised I don't think any further action is necessary in this case. However, if a similar situation occurs in the future, one way to deal with it is to correct the false signatures and leave a message on the editor's talk page asking them to stop. If the editor continues to impersonate you then it may be worth leaving a warning message (there is no template specifically for impersonating other editors, but the generic vandalism warnings can be used instead). If the editor continues to vandalise after a level 4 warning you can report them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism to get an administrator to intervene.

Let me know if you need any further help. Regards. Road Wizard (talk) 17:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Cashmere

I've had to revert this page again to the version you want, and that other people want, but someone keeps reverting it back to his preferred version. Cant he be stopped from doing this or will I get a message telling me to stop doing it again? 90.231.2.252 (talk) 07:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to leave you anymore messages, and if I knew a way to stop it I would have done so awhile ago. So the current wording is acceptable to you? Any ideas on tweaks to make it acceptable to others? Loggie (talk) 12:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think it is well written now. I dont know what the other user reverts it for. Perhaps just to cause trouble? But I am happy as it is. So are you. So is the user who originally wrote it this way. It should be left now. 90.231.2.252 (talk) 12:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Trump Chicago

Trump International Hotel & Tower (Chicago) recently failed at WP:FAC. Since you have significant past service at WP:CHICAGO and participated in the debate, I am requesting your opinion. The substantive issues of debate seemed to focus on the following issues:

1. Should the article contain a section on the spa. My argument has been that the current plans call for it to be a business consuming two floors of the hotel and the the article can not pass WP:WIAFA 1b without describing it. Some say the spa is a trivial part of the business and its inclusion represents a form of advertising. I argue that describing a business operation is not per se advertising, but the perception on WP is that it is, which is why a project like WP:APARKS has no WP:GA or WP:FA articles. With that in mind do you feel the current section should 1. remain as is. 2. be slightly edited for POV tone. 3. be significantly trimmed for over emphasis 4. eliminated for irrelevance.
2. Should the article contain a section on the bar. Although the case is not as strong for the inclusion of the bar, my argument has been that the easily found WP:RS have described it and the the article can not pass WP:WIAFA 1b without describing it. I concede the sources are less important sources than for the spa and most of the rest of the article. With that in mind do you feel the current section should 1. remain as is. 2. be slightly edited for POV tone. 3. be significantly trimmed for over emphasis 4. eliminated for irrelevance.
3. There are three well-sourced (3 New York Times and 2 Chicago Tribune refs) sentences describing the role of Trump's Children. Should they be in the article? Should these sentences 1. remain as is. 2. be slightly edited for POV tone. 3. be significantly trimmed for over emphasis 4. eliminated for irrelevance.
4. There was debate over the need to have links to both List of tallest buildings in Chicago and List of tallest buildings in the United States in the article and further debate on whether to have these same links in the See also section. Please state your opinion on both issues.
5. There seems to be an issue on whether the second setback lines up with Marina City. Do you know of any WP:RS on the issue? If not do you think this should be mentioned in the text?
6. There are numerous words that I have linked that remain contentious with my rationales.

• • see WP:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_be_linked - geography: London, Australia, New Orleans, Louisiana, North Africa, India, United States
  • see WP:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_be_linked - relevant connections to other articles to help reader understand this article:
    • Many readers will be looking for information on the restaurant and they should understand the terms: cocktails, sushi (I have mentioned before that I did not know what the term meant when I was in high school), cuisine, decor, entrees, appetizers,
    • I want readers to understand the features of the building: VIP room, pool, saunas, health club, spa, antennas, parking garage, hotel, swizzle sticks
  • see WP:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_be_linked - references to a page with more information: gemstone, diamond, ruby, sapphire, emeralds, billboard, standing room only
  • see WP:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_be_linked - technical terms: wine racks, wine rooms, architect (I link professions when relevant as technical terms. This particular link has been hotly contested yet I don't believe most people actually know exactly what an architect does), hedge fund, floors (links to storey), business district, interior design, divers (although this goes to disambig page it is difficult for me to say whether to link to scuba diving or surface supplied diving)
  • see WP:OVERLINK#What_generally_should_be_linked - Word usage that may be confusing to a non-native speaker: course, union

Please list all of the words above (and any others you may see in the article) that you feel should be delinked.

Also, please state whether you think full dates should be linked in this article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

HELP

Since you have participated in several editorial tasks for WP:CHICAGO I am contacting you. We need your help on three issues.

1. You have edited most of the articles at WP:CHIFTD. Cloud Gate is under attack by some vandals. Please weigh in at Talk:Cloud_Gate#Recent_Edits_by_IPS. Also, feel free to take another look at its most recent version because we hope to nominate it soon at WP:FAC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
2. At Trump Tower in the section above I asked for your help. There are several issues to be resolved from the failed FAC. I have selected one person who voted oppose, one person who voted support and one person who participated in the discussion without voting to get a fair set of responses to the issues. Without your response it may take a long time to reach a resolution on some of the issue. Please consider responding to the survey above.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
3. Feel free to take a look at BP Pedestrian Bridge prior to its WP:FAC submission.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

   Come visit Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/BP Pedestrian Bridge‎--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

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