User talk:Lieutenant of Melkor

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To Mairon, Lieutenant of Melkor--

      I don't know exactly how or why under the sky you were banned and I frankly don't care. The administrators in their halls of stone can sometimes be pretty narrow-minded. The work you did on Chinese geography topics was very important and I hope you or people like you will come back, otherwise Wikipedia is doomed to die. If you have the time, please apply to be unblocked and help us uncover the places where the Shadows lie. There are a lot of good sources out there, and we need you to find them and bring them all and on Wikipedia link them. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:42, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you should care. He was banned for being an un-constructive jackass. Wiki doesn't tolerate that sort of behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.169.18.4 (talk) 23:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, there was a lot of good work that was done by this user. It's been four years. I have started a discussion on unblocking this user so they can get back to work on Chinese geography. Started a topic on unblocking this user here: [1]Geographyinitiative (talk) 06:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocking Request Attempt

For the convenience of the user, I am adding my attempt to unblock the user to this page. I hope you will see this someday and try to unblock yourself. Looking forward to the Return of the Lieutenant! My master bids thee welcome!

User:Lieutenant of Melkor

Sorry, Geographyinitiative, but this isn't gonna happen without hearing from Sauron themself. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:40, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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In 2018, we are supposed to focus on the under-covered subjects on Wikipedia. Since Asian Month Nov 2017, I've been working on Chinese geography stubs, and I've noticed a name in like all of the page histories for minor Chinese geography: User:Lieutenant of Melkor. If you really want to cover the under-covered topics, then I suggest undoing the block on this user. Whatever the polemical statements the user made were, the user did constructive work on Chinese geography, which is still badly needed. I request that you give the user another chance.

Back in June 2014, this user was blocked from Wikipedia for polemical statements or behavior of some sort which I have not yet personally reviewed. Further, the user seems to have been blocked more than once. It's easy to see that this user probably has an eccentric personality, but in the end, who doesn't?

It's been almost four years now: the world has changed; Wikipedia has changed. Why not unblock this user? I hope to collaborate with the user to continue the work on Chinese geography pages. Even if you unblock the user today, the user may not even realize that the unblock you do has occurred for several years time. Once the user comes back (if ever), then if the user violates policy again, you can just block the user again, no problem. BUT if the user comes back and sees the unblock, then there's a chance, however small, that the Chinese geography stubs will be greatly improved by this user. Hope this makes sense to you all. I earnestly implore you to encourage this user to come back and continue the constructive work the user was doing. Geographyinitiative (talk) 07:54, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - While I believe this to be a good-faith request, I feel an unrequested unblock sets a precedent here, one I find troubling. To be brief, I suggest this idea should be rejected as opening the door to similar requests, which would undo the hard work it has taken to block a number of various types of tendentious editors who, although arguably good content providers in some areas, have repeatedly proven themselves a net negative for Wikipedia in terms of overall editor retention and wasted editor and administrator time. Jusdafax (talk) 08:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts: there are some pages only the tendentious would ever edit; don't ban personality types. Geographyinitiative (talk) 08:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I just refreshed my memory with this reading from AN/I that outlines the highly ban-worthy behavior which has me wincing. (AN/I archive 844, section 25.) This is my definition of a bad-faith editor: this highly problematic editor pulled every trick in the book. Jusdafax (talk) 08:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I glanced at the behaviour. I'm not saying it's not bad. I see trolling, bullying, insulting, and edit warring. But I'm saying people can change: 3 or 4 years later, maybe this person is ready to come back. If the user does something ban worthy again, then you just ban the user- simple! For every one of these examples, I can give you fifty or a hundred good edits this user made. Give peace another chance. "all kinds of trouble come to an end, when a man tells another man, "Be my friend."" Geographyinitiative (talk) 09:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At least we agree on the extremely uncollegial and unethical behavior that got this editor effectively banned. But you fail to address my other major point, one of great importance in my view: the precedent that is set here. I am unaware of any previous unrequested unblocks being granted. Effectively, to begin this now means we potentially start hashing over every blocked or banned editor’s case even if they are not asking for their editing privileges back, a daunting prospect that could eat a big chunk of editor time. No thanks. Your kindly intent and desire to see Chinese coverage grow is noted, but the price is too steep. Way, way too steep. This is simply a terrible idea. Jusdafax (talk) 10:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose "behavior of some sort which I have not yet personally reviewed." You're asking for someone to be unblocked, and you haven't even looked at why they were blocked? Andy Dingley (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I know it seems crazy, but when I look at that block log, all I see is a relatively thorny person who even his greatest detractors admitted had "Clearly... benefited Wikipedia in one or two significant areas: Climate, China, and Taiwan." The events of 4 years ago are long gone. If the user does something heinous after being unblocked, just block the user again. The user may never even realize the unblocking. But I hope the user will be unblocked, figure it out one day, read these comments and continue the constructive work the user was doing. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose current request. As an absolute minimum we'll need an unblock request from the user himself, convincing enough for us to believe that the kind of behavior that led to the block will not reoccur. Favonian (talk) 11:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that’s of course a slam dunk point, and why I couldn’t recall an unrequested unblock. Suggest a speedy close. Jusdafax (talk) 11:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying three-four years is long enough. Why would the user even want to come back at this point? For the sake of wikipedia, try to show mercy. Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support (since I'm the OP): An half-baked analogy for you all to ponder: 4 Teacher (You)," they said to Him (you), "this woman (user) was caught in the act of committing adultery. (breaking wikipedia policy) 5 In the law Moses (Wikipedia policy) commanded us to stone (ban) such women (user). So what do You say?" 6 They asked this to trap Him, in order that they might have evidence to accuse Him. Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground with His finger. 7 When they persisted in questioning Him, He stood up and said to them, "The one without sin (breaking policy) among you should be the first to throw a stone (ban) at her. (the user)" 8 Then He stooped down again and continued writing on the ground. 9 When they heard this, they left one by one, starting with the older men (admins). Only He was left, with the woman in the center.
Oppose - The whole point of the standard offer is that the blocked editor is supposed to demonstrate that they have understanding of the reason why they were blocked, and that they will not repeat this. Handing out unblocks is a bad precedence to set. Also, we can do without the condescending sermons.--WaltCip (talk) 13:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:List of township-level divisions of Gansu

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Continued Respect

I am still looking forward to the Return of the Lieutenant! I have never seen any of the stuff they blocked you for, but I see your work everywhere I go in Wikipedia. You were a great editor. Geographyinitiative (talk) 12:21, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:List of township-level divisions of Gansu

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! ~riley (talk) 08:49, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

Lieutenant of Melkor- I have recently surpassed your edit total of 20,031. Without the pioneering foundation you laid and the example you provided (including mistakes!), I would never made it here. When I have been blocked or in danger of being blocked, I tried to remember your experience and how much Wikipedia lost when you were blocked. Thanks for your contributions. Geographyinitiative (talk) 04:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Nanxiang (disambiguation)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Shekou (disambiguation)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Chengjiang (disambiguation)

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Proposed deletion of Xiaoqiao (disambiguation)

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Also:

Longwan (disambiguation)

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