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Happy editing! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ad Orientem (talk) 04:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted, and kind of a newcomer here too so only getting to things.

Just felt it would have been okay to include within the conspiracy section even though it was the personal opinion of a CIA officer at the time.

Tucker can be contentious also.. Agreed Lf8u2 (talk) 04:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome @Lf8u2 to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Please be aware that all claims of fact must be supported by a reliable source. You recently introduced a reference citing Tucker Carlson and a guest on his show. Mr. Carlson is not a reliable source as he is known to have made demonstrably false claims and promote WP:FRINGE conspiracy theories. Accordingly, I have reverted your good faith edit. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Ad Orientem for information Lf8u2 (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Charlie O'Brien (singer)

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A tag has been placed on Charlie O'Brien (singer), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Hi CycloneYoris, I tried editing same and adding some neutral additional links but it would not allow me to do the same. I would also cite than all the documentaries are linked to the IMDb website where they all are. This is not promoting or advertising Lf8u2 (talk) 23:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will move the page to draft so you can improve it there. Please note that IMDb and other user-generated sites do not count as reliable sources. See WP:Reliable sources for further information. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved it to draft space. Draft:Charlie O'Brien (singer) -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ad Orientem Lf8u2 (talk) 00:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some general cleanup on the draft and removed any language that sounded a little too fluffy. This allowed me to remove the advert maintenance tag. The two remaining issues are that a great deal of the page is unsourced and most of the existing sources fail WP:RS. This in turn raises questions about the encyclopedic notability of the subject. I would encourage you to read WP:BASIC, WP:NARTIST, and WP:SINGER. Then take some time and try to find sources to cover the uncited claims of fact, which will help to establish the subject's notability. Once that is done, you can go ahead and submit the draft for approval to be moved back into the mainspace. There is no rush on this, but don't completely ignore the draft. Abandoned drafts are eventually deleted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Ad Orientem Lf8u2 (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie O'Brien / "my travels"?

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Guliolopez (talk) 18:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for advice @Guliolopez. Lf8u2 (talk) 17:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COPYVIO / COI

Hi. Much of the content of Draft:Charlie O'Brien (singer) is, according to related copyvio checks, taken verbatim from the Charlieobrien.net website. Where it is labelled as "© Charlie O' Brien 2012". This is not a Commons-compatible licence. If:

you are the author of that website, please see WP:DCM for how to donate copyrighted materials (and WP:COI for the policies and norms on writing articles about yourself).
you are not the author of that website, please see WP:COPYVIO for more information on the norms/policies on copyright violations.

Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 18:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lf8u2 I have deleted the draft for copyright violations. That's a non-negotiable no-no around here. Beyond that, the article was poorly sourced with little evidence that the subject would pass community standards for encyclopedic notability. Of the sources that were cited, only one was likely pass WP:RS. Assuming you don't have a connection to Charlie, feel free to try again if you can find sources that meet our guidelines and, importantly, are independent of the subject. See the links above and in the welcome template farther up on your page for help with copyright. Please don't get discouraged. Wikipedia has a learning curve, but it's not too steep. Ad Orientem (talk) 19:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, Yes, I will have to distinguish whether state or city Lf8u2 (talk) 06:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COPYVIO

Hi. As above, please do not just copy-and-paste content directly and verbatim from sources. As you did here. Per COPYVIO detector. Please see WP:COPYVIO and WP:CLOP. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 21:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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