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WQMX & WP:NOTDIR

Hey Lev, I know the ban is explicitly on schedules themselves, but my reservation is this: it looks weird saying who is on the morning show & saying in a sense "all the rest" for the rest of their broadcast day vs. just listing on-air personnel and not including what their shifts are, which would be a better move in my view. I know that radio stations always promote their morning shows at the expense of the rest of the airstaff, which also looked like this could be station advertising. What are your thoughts? Thanks!Stereorock (talk) 13:26, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Stereorock- Morning shows tend to get more coverage outside Wikipedia because morning drive tends to be the most important daypart. And real-world coverage dictates content on Wikipedia. That said, I have no objection to adding more info on other station personalities, preferably with sources unaffiliated with the station. Hope this helps. Levdr1lp / talk 14:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Levdr1lp: OK, cool. That will probably be the biggest problem, finding another source for their airstaff that's not their website, but I agree-it's the best way to do that.Stereorock (talk) 14:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

WHK (AM)

Why did you undo the revision, which only referenced 1922 in radio? My revision was pretty innocuous, don't you think? User:Rudy2alan (talk)

Hello Rudy2alan. I reverted your edit based on my reading of WP:EASTER, which I noted in my edit summary. The year 1922 is not the same topic as 1922 in radio, and so piping one in a link to the other does not keep the link "as transparent as possible." I also do not think this sort of piping keeps the link "as intuitive as possible" per the related guideline MOS:EGG. But that's just me. Levdr1lp / talk 14:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

No problem; you have more experience with this than I and there's no way I'd argue about something so minor........and thanks for your reply. User:Rudy2alan (talk)

Rudy2alan- Sounds good. Levdr1lp / talk 22:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Templates

It's not something I'm gonna make a big stink over (i.e. edit war), but I gotta know - why the stubborn insistence on the generic, boring, nondescript "CLE" on all the templates, when there are perfectly good free use logos that can be used to gussy things up a bit. I'm asking you because you saw fit to put in your $0.02, so that makes you fair game. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:05, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Vjmlhds- for the reasons stated in my edit summaries. Though to be honest, I was also tired of those userboxes repeatedly popping up in my watchlist for the same contested reason over and over again. More than one editor opposed your addition of a logo; no one else supported it. Time to move on. Levdr1lp / talk 20:31, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Like I said, I'm not dying on that hill, but just because consensus says the sky is green, it doesn't make them right. Vjmlhds (talk) 02:59, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Vjmlhds- straw man says hi. Levdr1lp / talk 03:33, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Not making a straw man argument - just saying I disagree with the consensus take about the templates (I can have my own opinions). Let me repeat - I'm not gonna fight city hall, but that doesn't mean I can't say city hall is wrong. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:57, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Vjmlhds- Uh huh. "Consensus is clear." Your response: "Just because consensus says the sky is green, it doesn't make them right." Also, FYI- subjective preference is subjective. Cheers. Levdr1lp / talk 04:01, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Gonna let you in on a little secret - you know who makes up consensus?..a bunch of schmucks sitting behind their keyboard that are just like you or me (yes - we too are just a couple of schmucks sitting behind a keyboard). Only difference is that you seem to deify them, while I can say I disagree with them. Wiki rules state that they who have the numbers have the final call. I am going to abide by that and again reiterate I'm not going to fight the consensus, but that doesn't mean I have to worship at the alter either. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:28, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Vjmlhds- Please go complain somewhere else. Levdr1lp / talk 04:39, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Chad Zumock

I am Chad Zumock's manager and the edits I made are 100% true and accurate. Please stop reverting them, thanks so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegendManSteve (talk • contribs) 23:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

How is disruptive but when it's a fact?

Why are you changing "Facts" do a google search and remove the dead link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegendManSteve (talk • contribs) 01:33, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

LegendManSteve- You have repeatedly removed sourced content from the Chad Zumock article, specifically the subject's birthdate/age. While the podcast link from 2010 is in fact a dead link (with no apparent archive available), a copy of the podcast could conceivably be found. The *second* source -- an arrest record from the Streetsboro Police Department which is both referenced and linked to in an updated 2013 Cleveland Scene story -- serves as verification unless/untill a copy of the podcast resurfaces. Levdr1lp / talk 01:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

WDLW

I totally forgot to add this citation on the recent edit to the WDLW page. This source was also used on the WJTB page, but the URL was outdated and a simple ref tag, so that has been replaced as well. Changed the wording on my edit slightly, it needed rephrasing. (Source: https://www.morningjournal.com/news/friends-and-neighbors-radio-duo-to-be-honored-at-appreciation/article_50515b19-27a0-5388-8356-0d4a94d68f17.html) Nathan Obral (talk) 04:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I have removed the reference markup. Levdr1lp / talk 15:48, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Cleveland radio template

There was a discussion on the WP:WPRS talk page about Nielsen purchasing Arbitron, and how Nielsen issued a takedown of the TV region templates because it violated copyright. The thread is here, and suggests not using any Nielsen/Arbitron "DMA" information. Other regional templates have gone through a similar title change, such as Los Angeles, New York City, and Philadelphia. I was just doing a similar naming for Cleveland. --DrChuck68 (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

DrChuck68- the WP:WPRS discussion is from 2013 and possibly outdated. I also don't think simply removing the word "market" from these templates resolves the copyright issue, assuming there is one, as they presumably still list the same stations used by Nielsen/Arbitron. I think it's better to revisit this issue -- including the 2013 OTRS ticket regarding TV markets -- before making changes across all templates in subcategories of Category:Arbitron market by state navigational boxes. Levdr1lp / talk 15:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)