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You are correct, and I was mistaken. However the picture added still does not show the auxiliary antenna, so the picture shown still incorrect. It only shows the tower, which was vacant when the photograph was taken. The aux antenna is a licensed ERI SHPX-3AE, which is a large antenna, and would be very prominent in the photograph.

NECRAT^{Plates On} 19:34, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Nathan Obral- Hello. I stumbled upon your infobox "experiment" page. I was surprised to see one for a translator. To be clear, I really do not think translators should have articles. The longstanding practice -- according to notability guidelines and the radio station wikiproject -- is that because translators do not originate their own programming, they aren't notable. In the case of HD Radio subchannel rebroadcasts, the solution seems simple enough: if there's enough reliable coverage, then make an article for the subchannel, and create a redirect at the translator back to the article. It's what we do for AM stations. Maybe I'm misinterpreting your edits, but regardless I'd like to hash this out. (Like you, I have also had my eye on subchannels and translators.) Levdr1lp / talk 02:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Levdr1lp: No worries! I'm in agreement with you re: translators and would by practice use the standard table for technical specs. I've been assisting Raymie with a revision/streamlining of the broadcast and radio infoboxes, and you kinda caught me right in the middle of redoing that infobox to show the technical specs for WMMS-HD2 instead of W256BT haha :) Nathan Obral (talk) 03:47, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Levdr1lp: I'm personally not even a fan of most HD multicast channels having their own articles! I'm about to propose the most extensive formatting revisions ever to {{Infobox radio station}} and {{Infobox broadcast}}. I wrote up basically why I want to do this on User:Raymie/Infobox radio station revamp/Explanation. It would require a bot like SporkBot to edit transclusions for some fields, because one of the goals is to homogenize field names that the two templates share. Basically, the goal is unifying presentation and code as much as possible without requiring manual edits, while also creating a more thematic approach to organizing the information in the templates and supporting international (non-US) use of these templates. Raymie (t • c) 03:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Nathan Obral, Raymie- Thank you both for clarifying. To be honest, I'm less concerned with the presentation of infoboxes themselves than with how we treat translators, specifically those which relay signals from either digital subchannels (like W291BV from WAKS-HD2) or AM stations (like W228EL from WAKR). I generally agree with you, Raymie- most digital subchannels (or multicast channels) shouldn't have an article. But neither should low-power FM translators, and that's really what I was trying to address w/ Nathan (not infoboxes per se). Translators don't originate programming, but digital subchannels can and often do. So when choosing between a translator and the digital subchannel it relays, I choose the subchannel as the subject of the article. This is consistent with both longstanding practice (broadcast outlets which do not originate programming are not notable), and with how we treat translators which relay AM stations. Both WAKS-HD2 and WAKR originate the programming broadcast on their respective translators, and so both are the subject of their articles, not the translators. Clearly there are other reasons why AM stations need to remain the subject, but I think you see the point I'm making. Levdr1lp / talk 04:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Levdr1lp, the proposal is ready and available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations/2020 infobox redesign proposal. Raymie (t • c) 05:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Apologies

I want to apologize for some rude comments I made towards you a few years ago while editing the Superman article. I let my temper get the best of me. Kurzon (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)