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</helpme> So I have vid ofme evaporating in garage just b4 reptlian appears.was i being rescued or abducted— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:A:982:0:0:0:47 (talk)
- @2600:387:A:982:0:0:0:47:, excuse me? Hello 05:01, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
Hello, I'm Denisarona. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to User talk:31.205.38.57 have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thanks. Denisarona (talk) 15:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Hart Family Tree
Hi,
My name is Brit Hart, oldest daughter of Bruce Hart, and I would like me and my siblings to be added to our family tres. If you look at Bruce Hart’s wikipedia page his five children are listed. Please consider this your citation and add us to the family tree. Also, my mom, Andrea Hart, is deceased. If you could please update as well. Brithaart (talk) 03:41, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- wut? This is my userpage[citation needed]and this is my talk page[citation needed] 03:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- On a serious note, this can't be considered a reliable source. This is my userpage[citation needed]and this is my talk page[citation needed] 09:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Regarding my edit
Hi,
Regarding my edit to Kenley Jansen, how would I provide a source for the little description that comes up when you type his name in the search box? The description says he’s American, his article clearly says he’s Curaocaoan, I was just correcting that.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fried Pork Dumplings (talk • contribs) 04:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, I am a relatively new editor here and I'm not sure how to answer your question. The Teahouse may be a better place to ask your question. This is my userpage[citation needed]and this is my talk page[citation needed] 13:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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Templates not allowed in signature
Lettherebedarklight, please note, that per guideline WP:SIG#NT, templates are not allowed in signatures, as seen in your recent edits: Special:Diff/986524125, Special:Diff/987522214. —andrybak (talk) 08:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Andrybak:, oh, ok. I'll change it. Hello 10:25, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Your thread has been archived
Hi Lettherebedarklight! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse,
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PLEASE, don't jump in to edit a new article so quickly...that's very rude! It's like stepping on someone's feet and pushing them out of the way. WQUlrich (talk) 08:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- WQUlrich, why not? All I did was add a article description and tag on a stub template. h 08:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- You should give the person time to look the article over and double check it first. I wasn't even finished tidying up, and there you were, reaching right in front of me, so to speak. Sheeesh! Patience man! WQUlrich (talk) 08:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- WQUlrich, I think you're overreacting a little. All I did was add a stub template and an article description. I'm still a fairly new editor here, so apologies if I've annoyed you. h 08:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- You should give the person time to look the article over and double check it first. I wasn't even finished tidying up, and there you were, reaching right in front of me, so to speak. Sheeesh! Patience man! WQUlrich (talk) 08:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for yelling at you...my advice could have been more diplomatically delivered. Anyway, for some reason, this poor little article has attracted an unusual amount of attention. (??) Go figure. WQUlrich (talk) 22:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
National Epic reverts
I noticed you had reverted my edit on National epic. I made a topic on that article's Talk:National Epic with my rationale - it seems that a lot of people have added poorly sourced material to that section, and I'm not convinced that a long list of examples is particularly useful or informative for the rest of the article, especially given the amount of original research. There's a lot of information there I believe to be wrong in addition to being unsourced (e.g. Bible as the "national Epic" of israel)
I'm going to revert back to my changes for now, but I'm definitely open to the possibility of a reworked section that lists (a few) examples in that article. If you want to revert it back as is - can you also add some sources for the works, or give a reason on the talk page why they should stay up without sources? Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carchasm (talk • contribs) 00:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
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You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE 90.249.31.158 (talk) 14:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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You have been trouted for: Violating WP:UNSOURCED at Babai the Great 85.255.236.73 (talk) 07:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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Charles Forte, Baron Forte
Hello, I'd appreciate some clarification from you regarding your reversion of my constructive edits to this article please. Firstly, what do you mean in your reversion edit summary in saying "Did you just add a statement with citation needed?" Checking my edits made your meaning no clearer I'm afraid; what I take that to mean is that I added a statement not previously contained in the article, then added "citation needed" rather than providing a citation, which I can't see that I did. Regarding the edits made: firstly, I removed a user-generated genealogical site, which is deprecated as a source per Wikipedia guidelines, particularly one to which is linked the completely unverifiable statement "The Forte family tree has now been fully mapped". I moved Alex Polizzi and Charlotte Polizzi to their mother's section (which references her marriage to their Polizzi father) rather than weirdly left in the "other family members" bit, when Alex Polizzi's own article (with citations) makes her parentage and that of her sister entirely clear. I made a small change to the formatting/ wording for "& then The Hon. William Shawcross since 1993"- there's no need for an ampersand rather than the word "and"; usually the word "in" indicates the year of marriage in most articles rather than "they've been married SINCE xxxx". The statement I removed, "His ancestry is centred on records of his birthplace Mortale, now Monforte in Casalattico, Lazio", lacks any citation; I added a "citation needed" tag for the uncited assertion(s) "Irene, Lady Forte died in 2010, and she is buried with her husband." The "other notable family members" section, with Alex and Charlotte moved to the appropriate section, includes Lisa Forte and Vitor Forte, neither of whom are established as being related to Charles Forte in any of the citations given for them here.
With all due respect, I believe there's no question that my edits improved the quality of the article, which has now been restored to an inferior version of itself, steps to remedy which ought to be taken. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.160.24 (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
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Its stated the i recently editing index finger page . I removed info form this page because its unimportant and not only related to romans ,us army or greek bit whole world uses index finger as a pointing finger Muhammad qari (talk) 06:06, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- ...what? 晚安 06:07, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE DonGiovanni22 (talk) 07:13, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
This part of the article is crap. It went into who won a local election of a municipality that has less than 15,000 citizens as if it was the Medicis versus the Borgias. No one cares who won. They just care about who serves on the City Council.
Is your IQ as big as your shoe size, or are you completely stupid? So, stop the crap, or F*** off.
- what are you talking about?? 晚安 13:13, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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Stubs
Re this edit: Please remember that the {{stub}} goes right at the end, after categories. I've moved it, and found a more specific stub template (there's always a geograpical one (x-geo-stub), for a place - country at worst, but usually subdivisions like UK counties). PamD 16:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Declining report for username vio from bot when you aren't an admin
Hey! I saw that you declined a bot report for a username vio, except you aren't an admin. I thought only admins were supposed to be declining these requests like at WP:AIV. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Blaze Wolf i dunno, i'm new here 晚安 (トークページ) 01:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, yes. Probably too new to be doing this. I'm not at all sure non-admins should be commenting at UAA and removing false positives. I think maybe that's reserved for admins? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra very late reply, but is it really reserved for admins? 晚安 (トークページ) 10:37, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, yes. Probably too new to be doing this. I'm not at all sure non-admins should be commenting at UAA and removing false positives. I think maybe that's reserved for admins? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
It's best to let the admins judge false positives and so forth, yes. Especially if the user doing it did it wrong. The reports are for admins to decide on. If and admin has rejected a report as a false positive, that's different. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:59, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra as it turns out? 晚安 (トークページ) 10:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Changed my mind when I thought it through. Please do not decide to remove false positives unless an admin has called it a false positive. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:00, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra ok, will note 晚安 (トークページ) 11:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Changed my mind when I thought it through. Please do not decide to remove false positives unless an admin has called it a false positive. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:00, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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Your edit
With this edit you passed a pending change which is a clear and blatent breach of WP:ERA. Please DON'T do this - "ce is cool" was your edit summary! Under these circumstances, no, it is not. Johnbod (talk) 13:54, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: so should i fix it? 晚安 (トークページ) 13:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- No, I did already, but thanks for asking. Johnbod (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
I did not understand your revision edit summary
When reverting my edit to Hal Rogers, you wrote "the explanation is that your text, i couldn't understand it".
The incorrect grammar of the edit summary makes its meaning unclear. It seems most likely you mean my rewrite was incomprehensible to you, but I am uncertain. Is this what you mean? If so, I will figure out a new way to reword the section as it is currently literally incorrect in a way which risks severe violation of WP:BLP 14.2.53.36 (talk) 07:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
@14.2.53.56: yup, that's what i meant. and what do you mean by it's "literally incorrect"? 晚安 (トークページ) 16:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Saying one "opposes prosecuting [description] crimes" means one thinks they should not be treated as crimes by the legal system. While most readers are likely to understand what's actually meant, in the present time neither politicians nor partisans are always reasonable. There's a decent chance some will take the text literally and think Hal Rogers believes anti-gay murders ought to be ignored by the police and courts. 14.2.53.36 (talk) 01:14, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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You have been trouted for: [1] EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 11:28, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- @EnlightenmentNow1792: ah yes, i get it now. that makes sense. 晚安 (トークページ) 11:29, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
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A bit harsh, isn't it?
I don't know if this is an in-joke or some other non-issue, and I'm kind of hesitant to straight up call it a threat, especially since the strikethrough made it seem like there was something else behind it. However, I think [2] was kind of harsh and uncivil for a response to keyboard smashing. "I will light you on fire" isn't exactly the best indicator of well-meaning or good faith. Hopefully I'm just being too cautious, but in case I'm not, I think you should be reminded that threats aren't allowed here. ☢️Plutonical☢️ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵘⁿᶦᶜᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ 17:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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A7 on Lie Liang Yang
Hello Lettherebedarklight -- I've declined this A7; I believe the subject meets the WP:PROF guidelines, both by having elected fellowships and by citation profile in Google Scholar. Please don't tag articles on academics for speedy deletion again without having more of an understanding of how notability for academics is measured. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for closing the move discussion. Could you please move the article to the appropriate name? Thanks. Nehme1499 09:31, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Nehme1499: i don't have the page mover right and i don't care enough to request it, so i had filed a technical request for it to be moved. 何をしましたか?那晚安啦。 13:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please review the edits and also add the source
Please review the edits and also add the source — Preceding unsigned comment added by EBUBAKIR (talk • contribs) 23:29, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @EBUBAKIR: sorry, i can't figure out what you had changed. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい 11:51, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- EBUBAKIR (talk) 12:54, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- @EBUBAKIR: i recommend you create another edit request for the page as i have no knowledge of this topic. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい 04:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- I get it, but if you don't know, please don't comment from the start EBUBAKIR (talk) 09:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @EBUBAKIR: i recommend you create another edit request for the page as i have no knowledge of this topic. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい 04:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- EBUBAKIR (talk) 12:54, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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21:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Quintetto Chigiano
Hi,
The article on the Quintetto Chigiano was written as a "starter" stub several years ago, and needs more adequate verification sources listed inline: I agree. However it was certainly a notable classical ensemble, and if the page is removed it will in due course be necessary to replace it. As it stands, the reference listed under "Sources" as Sackville-West and Shawe-Taylor, together with the selection of Decca recordings listed with their reference data, ought to be sufficient to verify their notability for the purposes of a "stub", which this is. I suggest that, rather than deletion, it would be more useful and appropriate to tag the page with a request for (a) additional references and (b) more specific inline citation, and allow a further amount of additional time for these to be found and added.
I don't understand about pinging so I'm sending you this notification instead. I'll copy the above to the afd page. Thanks, Eebahgum (talk) 14:30, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Eebahgum: i'll just let the discussion run for it's 7 days and see what others have to say. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい, ping me when replying 14:39, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for withdrawing you nomination. I hope my recent edits may have made the article a little more acceptable to you. Will you feel able to remove the tag from the page itself, or should we wait a little longer? Best, Eebahgum (talk) 21:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Eebahgum: i assume you mean the afd tag, so i have closed it and removed the tag. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい, ping me when replying 09:20, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for withdrawing you nomination. I hope my recent edits may have made the article a little more acceptable to you. Will you feel able to remove the tag from the page itself, or should we wait a little longer? Best, Eebahgum (talk) 21:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Trouted
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
You have been trouted for: being you
Color in Third wave article
Sorry about that. Several sentences were highlighted (in one of the colors used for the condensed boxes at the bottom of the article), but when I went out and went back in everything was normal. I went to deleted the question from the Teahouse, but I couldn't find my post so I figured I didn't put it through. I didn't know to look for "Untitled". Sorry again. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 05:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Pete Best Beatles: that's alright. i added the "untitled" header because it looked like a response to another question without a header. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい, ping me when replying 05:20, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
William Ruto
Please see MOS:BIO for the guidelines on describing people. Specifically:
The first sentence should usually state...context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable.
The standard way in which politicians are described on Wikipedia is by stating their nationality and occupation. For example, on the page Joe Biden:
Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is an American politician who is the 46th and current president of the United States
It may be obvious that the president of the United States is "an American politician" but that is the style guideline as per the Manual of Style, and it should be adhered to on the William Ruto page as well. MediaKill13 (talk) 13:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @MediaKill13: so how would i go about changing this guideline? lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 03:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- You can open a discussion on the MOS:BIO talk page and see what other users think of it, or maybe if the policy should be interpreted to allow exceptions like in this case. Then if an uninvolved editor or admin assesses that there's a consensus for the change, it will be implemented. See WP:PGCHANGE. MediaKill13 (talk) 08:25, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Insanity
The Most Insane Userpage Ever | |
Your userpage is the most insane I've seen yet, and I am all for it. That Coptic Guy (talk) 14:03, 26 September 2022 (UTC) |
- @That Coptic Guy: uh, thanks! lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 14:05, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Lettherebedarklight,
You made a big, big mistake closing this unblock request. First, you said that the IP account was no longer blocked when that isn't true, it's part of a block range that is under a two week block. Secondly, only administrators can accept or decline an unblock request, this is not an area that NAC editors should ever participate, there is no reason you should have applied IAR to this editing decision. This was disruptive and resulted in the editor committing block evasion so that they could get an admin to reply to their unblock request. Do not ever do this again. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Liz: ok, got it. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 02:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Revert of Theatre Organ article back to 2013 with no prior discussion on talk page.
Hi, I have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_organ on my watchlist, and saw that you reverted the article back to 2013 ?!?!.
I can not see any discussion of your intent to do so on the talk page, and frankly have never seen that type of revert (that hides the intermediate pages.)
Can you please let me know what the intention was, or if this was a mistake?
Thank you, Bobsd •Bobsd• (talk) 16:48, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Bobsd: i don't understand what you mean by reverting back the article to 2013, though i did delete a lot of cruft. my intention was to delete much of the prose that shouldn't belong in an encyclopedia, such as an entire listing of theatre organs around the world. (i'm not done.)
- that hiding of intermediate pages was a revision deletion. i requested it because almost the entire features section was copied from https://www.atos.org/about/history/theatre-organ-2, which is a copyright violation. copyright violations must be revision deleted according to criteria 1 for redaction. it stuck around since 2013, so revisions since 2013 until my removal of the text have been deleted. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 03:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Lettherebedarklight: I couldn't tell what the process was, but as I now understand it, you did a manual cleanup to the current page, removing problematic copyright sections, and then Nthep performed a revision deletion back to [Revision as of 10:15, 4 November 2013] when the violations started.
- Your edit comment (it's a copyvio! that explains a lot.) was helpful, but (why?!?!?!?!??!!? ), (why would anyone trying to learn about theatre organs care about this!?!? ), (wtf is this article), were less so and at first, sounded to me that you had personal opinions about what previous editors should or should not have found relevant to the subject matter, and took an ax to it.
- But with such a large cleanup in mind, shouldn't a discussion have occurred for consensus on the talk page? I understand that copyright violations should be handled immediately, but not everything that you removed were violations.
- An irony is that the San Diego chapter of the ATOS uses the Wikipedia article as their "history" page. [7], so how do we determine the provenance of each sentence ... i.e. who borrowed from whom?
- Anyway, thank you for managing the copyright violation cleanup, but I do think that in the future, some type of explanation, at least after the fact, should be placed on the talk page so that past editors of the article can know what is going on.
- Regards, Bobsd •Bobsd• (talk) 17:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)