User talk:Lady Aleena/Archive 5

Archive 4 of Lady Aleena's talk page. Dates included are 1 July 2008 through 31 December 2008.

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Thanks for the help with the rfa tempalte. I was fairly certain that there had to be a template for those of us who failed or first rfa (or the second, as it is in my case), I just couldn;t find it anywhere. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Sockpuppet template

I see that you recently made changes to Template:Sockpuppet, and it looks to me like it's no longer possible to pass a third parameter to link the template to another page based on this diff. However, Template:SockpuppetCheckuser (which uses Template:Sockpuppet) needs that third parameter to link in a RFCU page. Am I misunderstanding how this works, or will this be fixed? Dori (Talk • Contribs) 03:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dori, do you use IRC? - LA @ 15:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, but I do use IM, if that helps. Or email, if you prefer.

Or if you just have an example of a place where {{sockpuppet|username|confirmed}} is currently working (I can't find any with a working CU link), that'd be great. Dori (Talk • Contribs) 19:36, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try the {{Sockpuppet}} template on a page that has a checkuser page created, please. - LA @ 19:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind... now it's working. Something's changed somewhere, but hey, working is all I really care about. Thanks for your attention to this (and sorry if it wasted your time). Dori (Talk • Contribs) 19:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a waste of time at all. I wouldn't do it if it were. Just let me know if there is anything else you want me to do with that template, and I will look into it. Just post the request here. - LA @ 19:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A friendly hello!

Joy

Yamakiri ^T_C § 07-4-2008 • 18:06:54 has given you a kitten! Kittens promote Wikilove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Share the WikiLove and civility with everyone and keep up the excellent editing! Send kittens to others by adding {{subst:Joy message}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Happy Independence Day!

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway! :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And a very happy Independence Day to you as well. Have a very nice weekend! - LA @ 05:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll do my best! :) --Happy editing! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 07:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Lady Aleena 2

Ready when you are! —Giggy 07:28, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DW additional categories

Hey. I recently updated {{WikiProject Doctor Who}} to the banner shell, so it's easier to manage. Do you think, as the creator of the assessment department, the five categories it's nagging to make should be made? Sceptre ^(talk) 00:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet, unless you know of articles that should go into those categories. - LA @ 00:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portal and Project, are obvious. Future would be handy for articles such as the 2008 Christmas Special. I don't think there's any need for Needed or Merge, though. Sceptre ^(talk) 00:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do what you think best. I may have created the assessment for Doctor Who articles, but we both know that I differ in opinion on several points. I certainly don't feel like I am in charge of it. :) - LA @ 00:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes it looks like I get a bit OWNy with the project :P Sceptre ^(talk) 00:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sockpuppet

Hi. I have reverted back to the version before your edits until the problems are ironed out. At the moment, the template was hardly working at all ({{SockpuppetCheckuser}} was completely broken). I have put a note at Template talk:Sockpuppet. Thanks for the work you're doing trying to improve this template! Best wishes, Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 23:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your second RfA

I have closed it in response to your withdraw. Please take your time and review the concerns raised by the community. I hope this does not discourage you from further volunteering on the pedia, and hope to see you again in 3-6 months. Best regards from — _Maggot^Syn 06:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

I,SJP, wish you, Lady Aleena/Archive 5, a happy birthday:-) Have a great day!

No problem:-) I believe it's my duty to make wikipedia a little bit less stressful, and wishing people a happy birthday is a way to do that;-) Have a nice day, and I hope to see you around!--SJP_Chat 05:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use of New Template

I have created a template {{WikiProject Maryland/flag/animated}} using a commons image that could be used on the front page of the Maryland project. As you can see, I have configured it to fly behind the wiki-puzzle-world logo in the upper left portion of the screen. I will leave it there for a couple of days and invite your comments as to whether we should use it on our front page, or not.--«Marylandstater» ^«^reply^» 16:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please leave Support or Oppose comments here:

User infobox

So are you going to add all the WikiFauna options to this infobox? Just wonderin. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Helping me come up with your suggestion on Watchlist-details

Okay, I am drawing a blank on how to write up your suggestion to expand my suggestion for the Watchlist-details here. Any ideas? I was trying to keep it small, but it looks like even my suggestion could get out of hand.

I am trying to clear up a lot of things that I am doing here recently, so I can get back to what I was doing before that first abortive RfA I had. So much has fallen to the wayside since then. So, any help you can give on this to get this resolved would be appreciated. - LA @ 21:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Let me look over a few things, and I'll attempt to comment more fully. One thing's clear, we'll have to be as concise as possible. - jc37 22:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I thought this was a no-brainer, but like everything else I seem to get into, it isn't. - LA @ 22:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I so know what you mean. ("...got the T-shirt"? Ha - we've got jackets : ) - jc37 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After this, we can relax and hammer out our differences here. :) *dons jacket* - LA @ 22:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be a "joykill", but I honestly doubt that that proposal will go through. Too many problems with WP:OC, for one thing. (And categories shouldn't be created unless used, and "less is more", etc.) That said, I support the idea of "overall" conventions for cats, so maybe we'll find some middle ground.

But let's please not try to discuss that today (especially since I have to go soon : ) - jc37 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, AFTER the Watchlist-details thing is done. Not now! Have a nice evening. :) - LA @ 22:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you too : ) - jc37 22:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki:Watchlist-details part 2

Please see Trying to include everything to see what I came up with and let me know what you think. Its longer, but I think it covers all of the bases. Thanks! - LA @ 20:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the notice, I've commented there. - jc37 21:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Talkback|Lenticel|User page help}}

{{talkback|Lenticel|User page help}}--Lenticel ^(talk) 23:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User page help

{{Talkback|Pelotas|User page help}}

Hello, Aleena

This is very nice to you to guide me improoving my page. How you are asked, I put the

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on your talk page. I have seen your page, and I find it very nice and prety wiki organized. I'd like to organize my page is a similar manear. --serhio ^talk 18:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Stargate

Hello, Lady Aleena/Archive 5! Your username, as well as the usernames of other members of Wikipedia: WikiProject Stargate, has been moved to the inactive members list, as part of a process for update the activity of the wikiproject. If you would like to continue to be an active member, please follow the instructions on the top of the participants page to add your name to the active participants list.

Thanks! – sgeureka ^t•c 16:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have messages!

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eponymous categories

Hi, I've noticed what you've been trying to do here, and maybe you want to voice your opinion on that. -- 790 ♫ 12:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Horror Film templates

Thanks for updating them. They all look the same now. Kinda marking them as Horror film templates. Once again thanks. FaithLehaneTheVampireSlayer 23:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am very glad to be of some service to the project. I haven't done them all yet, there are the Hammer films ones left to go, though I am thinking about merging a few together to be like the Universal Horror one of The Mummy one. I am not sure yet. What do you think? - LA (T) 01:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up

I looked over the list you linked for me, and have commented at that page, regarding your suggestions. I think you're spot on, and will support your removal of those articles from the list. You might also consider creating simple redirects for each one, if you feel it's appropriate, based upon the notability of the character in the story, and the likelihood that a decent amount of people might search for that character, and need redirected to the particular show/movie article. S. Dean Jameson 12:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been working in that area for awhile, so any other work you might want to do is fine. :) S. Dean Jameson 00:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever...

Dear FrankB...If you are still interested in participating in WikiProject Media franchises, please remove your name from the inactive participants list and add it to the active participants list. If you don't have time, but would still like to show some support, you can always add yourself to the sympathizers list. It would be wonderful to see you in the project. Have a nice day! - LA (T) 19:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see you again too... Didn't I just add that this past quarter? Giving me the boot already!!! Tisk tisk... you must have too much free time! <g> However, right now am too busy peeing on fires on three sisters and so minimizing en.wikipedia time for other foundation projects, mainly the commons. Add me to sympathizers if you wish. // FrankB 19:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not giving anyone the boot. I just lifted the entire list and put everyone on inactive. :) Could you please move yourself to sympathizers? It won't take that long, I am still notifying people. - LA (T) 20:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kay... but maybe a day or two til I can tidy up talk posts... I'm in multiple tabs each with stacks of unsaved linked edits right now! Accessing too many pages looses the ques! later, ttfn // FrankB 20:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sympathetic participant

Thanks for the heads-up, and I have moved my name to the "sympathetic" participant list. I believe I do work in the area of media franchises, but mostly specific ones connected with detective fiction, so you will find me improving articles like Charlie Chan, Columbo and Ellery Queen, and there's a good deal of overlap with the Crime Fiction task force. If there's something you can think of that would be useful for me to contribute in that area, I'd enjoy hearing about it -- I am specifically interested in franchises that cross multiple platforms, like radio/TV/film/movie tie-in/plastic toy/jigsaw puzzles, etc. Accounting4Taste:talk 20:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ParserFunction in Sig

Try this: create User:Lady Aleena/sig.css with contents:

[[User:Lady Aleena|LA]] {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#ifeq:{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>NAMESPACE}}|User talk|{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#ifeq:{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>FULLPAGENAME}}|User talk:Lady Aleena||<small>If you reply here, please leave me a {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>tl|Talkback}} message on my user page.</small>}}|}} @

And then go to Special:Preferences and change your sig to:

{{subst:User:Lady Aleena/sig.css}}

Be sure to select [x] raw signature!

Then you should be able to sign any page with ~~~~, and have that message only appear on User_talk: pages that are not yours (this one). All templates are substed and clean (this is allowed as long as your signature contains no transclusions in the end). The .css extension is to autoprotect this from editing by anyone but you. Also: never transclude this without subst!

Note: this is just an example, modify as you wish. You can test without putting it in your preferences by copy/pasting the subst command manually and hitting 'preview' in various pages. --Splarka (rant) 11:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries

Sorry - I do sometimes get a bit lazy! Which article(s) are you referring to specifically? Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I generally delete Redirect tags, because they serve no implicit function, code to unassessed class, and are excessive use of the banner. So I'd say no, just don't use it in those cases. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 17:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disaster Movies

I am sorry, but i disagree with you 100%. A "list of disaster movies" should only list movies from within that genre as it is a genre specific list. If you wish to change the article name to "movies which feature disasters" then please feel free to do so and it will then reflect the content. A genre specific list should not stray as far from its remit as this list has done. Deckchair (talk) 10:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lathander

Hello,

Lathander, an article on which you had previously commented on the talk page, has been nominated for deletion. If there is anything you can do to improve the article so that it may be kept, please do so. :) BOZ (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome to the D&D project by the way. :) Thanks for your hard work. It seems like a lot of former supporters have given up on D&D articles because of all the tagging and deletion attempts (some successful, some not), particularly after one notable editor gave us all a really good fight (and he may not be done yet, just resting!). I have been hard at work though, adding publication histories to articles as I did with Lathander, to at least make the articles somewhat better. Anything you can do to improve the project overall, especially with so many others having burnt out or quit wikipedia altogether, is appreciated! :) BOZ (talk) 12:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "anti-cruft" people will never be happy until all the "cruft" is gone or excessively minimized. ;) I'm fine with merging most of the deity articles into pages like that, and I think we can work out a feasable solution. Maybe something more along the lines of List of Forgotten Realms greater deities, as list articles do a bit better job of staving off the "cruft police". If we lump them all into non-list articles, then people will just argue that there is no such thing as collective notability and try to get that deleted. If we break the big list up into sub-lists, that may work a lot better than trying to make a regular article out of it. It may take some work to hammer it out, but as you can see, I'm not above putting some work into a project. BOZ (talk) 15:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not, but it probably does help. ;) I may be busy for the next few days, but I'll try to have a better look at it soon. I'm thinking it could be done on fewer pages (i.e., maybe 2 pages for the FR-specific deities), unless you think that might get too long? BOZ (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But seriously, I don't want to seem like I'm brushing you off - I do want to work with you on this. It's just that, well, you know, big weekend in Indianapolis and all. :) I think we can do this independently of the Lathander results, because as far as this goes it really doesn't matter what happens at that AFD. I have some notes that I need to get together, but that may have to wait until next week. BOZ (talk) 16:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Forgotten Realms deity merge

I've moved the discussion page you created to Talk:List of Forgotten Realms deities/Merge proposal and made a note of it at Talk:List of Forgotten Realms deities and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lathander. Since that page consists of discussion about Wikipedia articles and not actual encyclopedic content, it shouldn't be in the article space. I deleted the resulting redirect, as cross-namespace redirects are a speedy delete. If you have posted messages about it elsewhere, please update so others can find it. Thanks, and hope this hasn't caused too much hassle. Pagra shtak 14:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The proposal goes here, it gets discussed here. Plus you left red links so no one can find it. I am moving it back. LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 14:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but discussion never goes in the article space. That's for Talk, Wikipedia, or Wikipedia talk—the article space is only for encyclopedic content, which this is not. I'm very disappointed that you chose to revert without discussion, as I have no desire to edit war. You may read Wikipedia:Namespace for more. I'm aware that I left red links—that's exactly why I left you a message about the move. Please move your page out of the space reserved for the encyclopedia. Pagra shtak 14:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the proposal is a sub-page of the main page, I did not see the harm of putting it there. As I said the proposal is rather long, so a seperate discussion page is needed to keep the proposal "clear." Any changes to the proposal should be discussed on a seperate page. As the proposal is so specific, I don't think that there is a general area in which this could be placed and have the same impact. If you think of a place, let me know; and I will move it there. LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 14:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a subpage of the main page, though, as it's not encyclopedic content. Why don't you move it to a subpage of the D&D WikiProject? Pagra shtak 14:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move to WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons done. Some links were outright changed, others left since the conversation continued prior to this. Please delete that page AND its talk page. LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 15:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great, glad we got that sorted out. Good luck with the merge. Pagra shtak 15:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

American to United States

Dear White Cat...I saw your comment on the American films by decade tfd, and I would support the mass rename. You would probably need a bot to do them all since there are 110 or so that need to be moved, a list of them can be found on this template. Have fun! LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 20:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am a bot operator. I also have BAG approval to deal with this. However I don't want to start a revert war. Do you think you can mention this idea on the tfd? -- Cat ^chi? 22:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Lady Aleena's new sig

Nice! —Animum (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Message from WikiProject Media franchises unofficial coordinator

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Thanks for the note - looks like things are going well. I know I'd be fine with you dropping the "unofficial" as this all looks suspiciously like coordination to me ;) and you are doing a fine job of it too. (Emperor (talk) 23:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

my role in this project must unfortunately be limited to defending articles as necessary. See my talk page at various places for my general view on the desired expansive coverage of these topics. DGG (talk) 01:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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That is quite some list. Worth noting that there are other comics not listed there:

Mr. T (comics), includes A-team comic
Alien Nation (comics)
Aliens versus Predator (comics)
Babylon 5 Novels, novelizations, short stories, and comic books - yes another candidate for making a franchise article as that is a little scarily titled
Blade (comics) - the original works
List of Buffyverse comics, Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics and List of Angel comics - this seems to be crying out for a franchise article - possibly adapted from Buffyverse?
Conan (comics)
Doctor Who Monthly - I've proposed there a Doctor Who (comics) article as the whole area is a little unfocused and there are a lot more comics
Serenity: Better Days - and the other comics count as Firefly spin-offs
The Real Ghostbusters (comics) and Ghostbusters: Legion
Godzilla (comics)
Halloween (comics)
Hellboy has a whole section which could be split off to make a franchise article as there is a lot of it.
There are Hellraiser comics and there was even a Pinhead one.
There are Hercule comics I believe and Xena: Warrior Princess (comics)
Highlander (comics)
Indiana Jones comic books
The Matrix Comics
Planet of the Apes (comics)
Silent Hill (comics)
Stargate comics
Star Trek comic books
List of Star Wars comic books
H. G. Wells' The War of the Worlds (comics)

I'm seeing what people think in the Comics Project and hope to start looking into refocusing some articles into franchise ones (those that where the original works are comics) as I feel it helps round the article out and allows us to do more than just list things (as you can give an overview looking at licensing, optioning, etc.). (Emperor (talk) 14:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I have tried to track such things at:

The see also also contains links to other similar lists (including the ones that work in the other direction). (Emperor (talk) 14:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for the note but, if I understand correctly, I haven't the time to list every comic book storyline in specific franchises as there are vast numbers of them, and they are already listed/categorised, for example Category:Superman storylines. Hopefully, I'll be focusing on refocusing the Superman and Batman "in other media" articles into franchise articles which will include the various spin-off titles (although not the storylines) which should have the same function (that is is I understand correctly which is no guarantee ;) ). If they work I'd be looking at Hellboy and X-Men with possible splits and then roll it on from there. Hopefully if I focus my efforts there we should ultimately achieve a similar effect for other comic-based media franchises!! I keep an eye on most other adaptations into comics so in the long run we may be able to assemble something like this out in the public space where everyone can contribute (many hands make light work after all ;) ).

I was wondering if a "List of media franchise" article might be handy to assemble things so we can see what needs work? (Emperor (talk) 00:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

It will be a slower approach but I hope that in the long run it will really help move things forward and result in better quality and more rounded articles - which would be a result. (Emperor (talk) 14:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for the list. I think I've created most of those and worked on the rest. Just FYI:

There is no category for Comics based on books but there is a more general Category: Comics based on fiction, with its own List of comics based on fiction. It is difficult to split it into novels and short stories as things like Conan (comics) are adaptations of novels and short stories.
There is a Category: Comics based on bands which should be renamed "comics based on music" (my mistake there). There is some music-based on comics but none of it (that I know if) have their own articles.
There don't seem to be many/any comics based on plays/musicals (or if there are they tend not to have their own articles) and vice versa
As you note there is Category: Novels based on comics, the books equivalent is Category: Books about comics (as they are non-fiction works looking at comics).

So I think we largely have it covered - where there are no corresponding lists it is usually because the area isn't large enough to support a list or there are other lists elsewhere. (Emperor (talk) 23:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I think there is a feeling that we don't want to mix fiction and non-fiction (I am also unsure if we have many/any comics based on non-fiction books - Bible adaptations being open to interpretation).

Essentially we are using comics to refer to the pamphlets and graphic novels as opposed to comic strips that appear in newspapers. There was a Comic Strip Project that faded away and we merged it into the Comics Project as a work-group, so there is partly a legacy of having two different projects working on it and in the broadest interpretation of the term comics (as sequential art) covers comic strips but it seems to work with a tighter definition and comic strips usually occupying their own lists. (Emperor (talk) 23:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Hello

Hello Lady. How are you? Actually I have done this for most of the other cinemas such as Template:CinemaofItaly Template:CinemaofFrance etc. I would have done one for American too but I know many would consider it "too generic". Personally I would rather we had an american films by year template consistently in all of the articles ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:55, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As below..

♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Please stop cross posting your notice to several individual projects, this has become a problem because it is a difficult way to do it. If you want to drum up members put a note on the talkpage or something, remember if people want to join, they will come to you. They do not need some sort of "push" which your cross posting adds. Thanks, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 08:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 08:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My dear Police,Mad,Jack...I have been an editor of Wikipedia for over two years now, but thanks for the really belated welcome. I was not trying to gain participants in the project but alerting all of those projects to a discussion in which they might be interested. Since the scope of WikiProject Media franchises is so broad, it is necessary from time to time to alert all related projects to what is going on within the project. Hopefully it won't happen often. Was there a reason you couldn't just drop the message without the template? I really didn't need it you know. LA (T) @ 08:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS. You might want to read "Don't template the regulars." And I should be welcoming you instead of the other way around. :) LA (T) @ 09:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have read DTTR, but I felt it necessary to template you. I do things by the book, and that is by templating people if it is necessary. I do not need welcoming, but thank you anyway. Regards, all the best. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 09:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, as you obviously did not know, on Wikipedia the warning templates are pre-set. If I had a choice I would have not included a welcome, but come on now Aleena, we cant all be as clever as you now. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 09:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know that the warnings are preset. And as far as I know, when it comes to issues like this, a nice little non-template message will do just fine. You could have just posted everything that is in italics in a message to me. I am hoping that I won't have to cross post so much in the future to all of these WikiProjects, but as that project is still getting back to its feet, there will be a bit of a mess for a while. We are still trying to figure a lot out that wasn't done when this project was first conceived. Please bear with us until we gets things straight. That may mean that a lot of WikiProjects might get a few more of these. I would really love to have a representative from each project as a member of ours to keep their home project up to date on what we are doing. It is so large, I didn't realize just how many WikiProjects are out there that would be on our radar.

A good rule of thumb is, ask first and if it doesn't stop or a less than satisfactory answer is posted, then template a regular. :) LA (T) @ 10:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

" I would really love to have a representative from each project as a member of ours to keep their home project up to date on what we are doing." Alright, I'll do so. Steve Crossin ^Contact/₂₄ 10:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, fair enough, it will be observed. As I am Lead Coordinator of the Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes Wikiproject, I dont mind being the representative for us, if you want me. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 16:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with the coordination work! :) Pundit|utter 20:00, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

crossovers/allusions

Where would be the appropriate place for these?

In one of the third season episodes, Danny McCoy asks Ed Deline about the character Sonny Corleone from The Godfather, to which Ed replies "Never seen it". This is humorous because actor James Caan who plays Ed Deline on Las Vegas also played the Sonny Corleone character.

Also, in one of the episodes of season four, when Ed travels to Morocco, he is under the name of "Alan Trahern". This is humorous as well becuase James Caan in El Dorado performed a character called Missisipi, whose real name was Alan Trahern.

Las Vegas may also exist in the same fictional universe as other NBC shows in addition to Crossing Jordan :In the "Heroes" episode 'Collision ' Hiro, Ando, Nathan, and Nikki all stay at the Montecito, and in the Las Vegas episode "The Story of Owe" (which first aired on Friday, November 10th, 2006), Mary mentions to Mike that Dunder-Mifflin (from The Office) had booked rooms at the Montecito for a convention, and that security would have to be beefed up.

Four of the cast members appeared on the December 01, 2006 episode of 1 vs. 100: Josh Duhamel, Nikki Cox, James Lesure, and Molly Sims. All of them were eliminated without winning any money for charity

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I am responding to your call to action on the Las Vegas page (sorry-I thought that was obvious from the text!) p.s. I'm not sure what you meant by "leaving a space"... etc. Thanks Djjonnyd (talk) 23:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My reply about the project

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Media franchises Wikiproject

Thank you, but no thank you. My reasons for this are that I don't understand what the Media franchises project is meant to be for - it seems like some kind of an over-arching cleanup project?? I'm also unsatisfied with the level of communication that I've been getting from the project. If you would like me to elucidate further, I can, but I'm not sure how tactful I can make it. Sorry about that. -Malkinann (talk) 10:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It feels like you have not read my previous reply to your entreaties - I am still not interested in becoming a part of your project, as I am unsatisfied with the communications I have been receiving from the Media franchises project. I have placed the Jurassic Park (franchise) article under your remit, though, and I wish you good luck with it. -Malkinann (talk) 22:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've just felt that in your eagerness to pursue a naming convention, your manner has been brusque and dismissive, and not seeking to understand where I'm coming from - whereas I have been asking questions about "what is a media franchise project meant to do?" for a while, and been getting increasingly difficult-to-read responses. Some of the communications I've been receiving from the project have been poorly worded - such as the second message to the "independent projects" was worded alarmingly - such as the use of the phrase "sweeping changes". When I came to the page, there was no clearly-marked, succinct indication of why you were pursuing a naming convention, which would have been helpful in the discussion - it took me ages to twig that you wanted to create the convention to help you with templating! I've always thought "Voting is evil" to be a bog-standard "anti-option" in Wikipedia polls - I was surprised that you yourself didn't put it in, and I was very surprised at your reaction to it. Please keep in mind your tone - it's one of the toughest things to determine on the Internet, and it makes up for so much of communication. -Malkinann (talk) 23:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I linked to the Wikimedia essay on meta:Voting is evil specifically so that my anti-voting option made reference to the Wikipedia meme. I think that essay's written in a fairly light-hearted tone, but I can see how you might have interpreted it otherwise. Tone is tough, lol. I can only again express my surprise that you haven't come across Voting Is Evil before, as it is a popular method of expressing dissatisfaction with polling, WP:CREEP and methods of creating consensus that some find unsettling. Having the first thing I saw on the page be "Some people will adamantly refuse to change" was annoying - your desire to create a naming convention was loud and clear, but the rationale behind it was unclear, other than you felt it was "hard to keep track". The idea of using templates with the naming convention didn't come through for me for a while. Also, I felt that the poll was premature, and that I hadn't been answered properly before the poll began. Could you please update the "Purpose" section of the project with real examples of methods the project proposes to use to organise mf information? Something like - "Organisation can be achieved through templates, such as Template:Blade Runner; or franchise overview articles, such as Jurassic Park (franchise). Some organisation can occur on disambiguation pages, like Sailor Moon (disambiguation)." I think that would help a lot when explaining 'why' the project exists. I'm finding your tenses when describing the proposed naming convention for media franchises confusing - do you still plan to work on a naming convention, or have you put it aside for now? -Malkinann (talk) 07:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A plea from WikiProject Media franchises coordinator

Dear Jc37...I am writing today to ask for your participation in WikiProject Media franchises. You seem to have some interest in it, since you took the time to stop by and discuss the naming convention. It is just Emperor and me at the moment, and we could really use some additional editors to help us get articles identified as ones for the projects attention and assessed as such or written from scratch. Even if your only involvement is to keep an eye on what we are doing as a liaison from another project, that would be extremely helpful. I do not know everything there is to know about all the naming conventions, infoboxes, etc from the other projects, so I would love to have a core group of editors to help me coordinate this better. So, if you are willing to spend a little time with this project and help me figure out just how far and wide this project could, should, or would be; I would be extremely grateful.

Thank you. LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 07:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS. I didn't miss you this time. :)

Thanks for the notice.

(I'll even try to avoid an "I told you so" concerning the poll : )

Conversation seems to have ground to a halt.

Something I might suggest is that the scope of the Project is both too broad and too narrow at the same time.

Right now the project looks like it just blanketly covers anything in media which may have a reflection/presentation in at least one other form of media

And it looks to me that your main focus is to create (enforce?) standards and conventions. Is there anything else or more to this?

While the name is and isn't that important, and this is just a suggestion, I think that what would/could set you in a much better direction might be to restructure as a task force. This would allow the "tree" sense to other Wikiprojects, though clarify issues like assessments.

It would also sidestep issues of naming conventions. So that, on one hand, you can be a task force ensuring consistancy between projects, while at the same time, respecting and (hopefully) understanding the (also hopefully) necessary differences in convention between projects.

This task force should be a bridge builder, a sort of cement between projects to fill in a perceived "gap" in coverage.

But anyway, I think if the goals and intent of the project were clarified, that might help. - jc37 10:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jc37, well, currently my main goal is to get people interested. I would like to see this project get up and running, but with no one willing to put in the time to help me figure all out, I am not sure where to go. I just lost the person I thought was going to be our assessment person. The other is only interested in on media type. I have two others who are only interested in single topics. I am a quarter-tempted to put everything up for deletion and just doing things from my user space since no one else seems to care about getting franchise articles written. The whole point of this exercise is to get topic overview articles written where people can read up on the topic and get quick links to all of the articles on a topic. I don't even know if the word franchises is right, but it was the only thing I could come up with at the time of the project's creation. Well, those are my thoughts for now. If you have any suggestions, I am open to them. LA (T) @ 05:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The whole point of this exercise is to get topic overview articles written where people can read up on the topic and get quick links to all of the articles on a topic."

Now that is a clear goal.

If that's the main intent, you probably don't need all the other trappings that go along with a WikiProject.

You'll want a convention on how to appropriately deal with disambiguation, and an editorial guideline, and example page to indicate/illustrate what a "feautured" version of a franchise article should look like.

And a talk page to discuss it all.

Sounds like a valid task force to me.

Hope this helps : ) - jc37 08:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response from GoodDay

Hello LA. I'm currently wrapped up in discussions over the usage of British Isles & Republic of Ireland on Wikipedia; therefore I'm unable to give enough of my attentions to the Project. But, I may (sporadically) drop by to help out. Sorry for not getting fully involved (at this time). GoodDay (talk) 17:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: A plea from WikiProject Media franchises coordinator

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LA, I've put in my 2¢ at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Media franchises. I figure it makes the most sense to consolidate the discussion there. I'm neither joining the WikiProject nor opposing its work at this point — I'm just trying to understand the purpose a bit better. I will say that although I don't have much experience with task forces, Jc37's suggestion that this might work better as a task force with a more limited scope sounds like a good idea to me. Perhaps the folks at the WikiProject Council might have some thoughts as well (although I can't find a central discussion point for them). —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comics lists proposed moves

Yes I made sure I was careful when creating pages as "series" might not cover things like TV movies, one-offs or anything else, so it makes sense that we fix up the older articles. (Emperor (talk) 13:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

ar welcome

You are welcome :).. for future reference, <div dir="ltr">your left-to-right text here</div>...--Alnokta (talk) 14:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: bracketmatch.js

It isn't as easy as where the parse link is by default, but it is possible, and I've added it as an option to the script. If you write the following code in your monobook.js, on the line before the line where you import bracketmatch.js:

var bm_useparsebutton=1;

and bypass your cache, you should get a fourth button next to "Show changes" that does the same as the "Parse" link at the top (which will also be there). Hope that helps! --ais523 17:04, 27 August 2008 (U T C)

Re: A Plea

Hiya,

I'm sorry that I haven't responded to you yet, I've been busy back at school. I read what your message, and I'm not quite sure I want to commit myself to joining the Wikiproject and becoming as involved as you put it in the message. I stopped by because of an invitation to leave comments from a talk page. I don't think I have the time to assess articles either. However, I have been and I guess am willing to stop by to leave comments if an issue for debate comes up. I'm part of the Lost WikiProject, so if you want I am willing to be a 'liaison' and leave feedback from that group. Thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 03:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

date and time page

I'm confused, do you plan to update this page once every minute? All registered users can have the time displayed in the upper corner of Wikipedia pages by going into their preferences anyway. Beeblbrox (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pixie dust

That you used it when you closed the CfD tells me you might have gotten a little chuckle out of it. I hope that is the case. Happy closings! LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 04:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have to blame Kbdank71 (and others) for that. In the past they used to have such fun with closures. It's a shame that the IWANTIT crowd's constant DRV attacks have hardened the closers somewhat. (A humourous close may be misconstrued in a DRV situation, so they're rarer than they once were.) - jc37 04:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

American to United States

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Hopefully a bit of insight from someone who's "been there"

I don't require, expect, or, at this point, really even desire, a response to this. (And feel free to remove this after reading.)

I guess I'm rather surprised that at every turn you're so opposed to help with your proposals.

I understand being enthusiastic about an idea. I understand having what you feel is a great idea that will help all of Wikipedia. We all do, that's presumably why we're all here.

But we're all here. And trying to be "all-inclusive" for every occasion is just simply counter-productive. There will always be some small part, some specific example, that somebody somewhere won't like. And you'll keep ending up with "No consensus". And keep feeling like you're banging your head against the wall.

If you wish to keep on as you do. Fine. That's your choice. (I've been there myself many a time.) But don't be surprised if those who might have supported your ideas find themselves being forced to consistantly oppose due to merely not being able to persuade you to a bit more mallibility, to allow for real consensus, not just "IWANTIT". - jc37 21:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of shortcuts

I've made a list of most shortcuts. Some of them are missing, for the reasons detailed there, most notable that some shortcuts are created not using the template:shortcut template but other synonyms, and I don't know all of those synonyms. If you know any more apart from shortcut, short, shorthand, guide, sytle-guide, policy, policy-shortcut, please message me and I'll search for those too in the already downloaded text and update the lists. Meanwhile, do whatever you want with the lists. – b_jonas 16:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I forgot to say, they're on User:B jonas/Pages with shortcuts (warning: long page, about 1.3M) – b_jonas

WikiProject Films August 2008 Newsletter

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This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox help?

Hi LA,

I hear on good authority that you're a master of userboxes. I could use some help with one. I want to create a template that uses a parameter within it: {{improvearticle|PARAMETER}}, which would show as something like "This user invites you to improve PARAMETER". Any idea how to do that?

Kind regards, hope all is okay. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 00:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. I've created the basic userbox here. The name of the template is 'improvepage' and is stored under User:UBX. It's basically just something very general saying "This user invites you to improve PARAMETER", but it works at the moment.

Do you know how to make it so an entered parameter is automatically linked? At the moment I'd have to type: '[[Article]]' rather than just 'Article'. Thanks for your help. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 08:42, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, fancy. :) Thanks for your help, LA. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 09:02, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I left...

...a reply on the Media franchises talk page... what do you want me to do? I don't know too much about Media franchise beyond the fact that Shannara is likely to join the ranks soon with a movie in 2009....but I can help in other ways if you want... =) ^-talk- the_ed17 ^-contribs- 20:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well, I didn't leave a reply on the WikiProject Media franchises talk page...I must say that I never did like the name change away from 'fictional series'. At the moment, I am helping out at another project. Thanks for the heads-up, though. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 02:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plays are not media

...they're works. So presumably it's inappropriate to cat plays under media. - jc37 22:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plays are like books, I have read a few of them, so they are media. I even have a musical, Sound of Music, somewhere stashed away in a box. As far as I can tell, that makes them a form of visual media. LA (T) @ 23:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While a play may be presented in book form, that doesn't make it print media (a book), any more than a script of a film in book form makes the film a book. Let's avoid overcategorisation, else these will be useless for navigation. - jc37 23:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course plays are media. One of the definitions of medium is " a mode of artistic expression or communication". Plays aren't a permanent medium — they're a live medium, like dance or opera. I agree that the print version or videorecording of a play is not the play itself — but that doesn't mean that the play itself is not a medium. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Project banner nesting

With this edit on Talk:Superman you changed the project banner nesting template from {{WikiProjectBanners}} to {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}. For future reference, they both say you aren't supposed to switch between them without talking about it first.--Rockfang (talk) 18:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rockfang...I didn't realize that it would be such a problem. I feel that WikiProjectBannerShell is the more visually pleasant template than WikiProjectBanners. I would like to TfD WikiProjectBanners but know that I would more than likely get lynched for it. LA (T) @ 20:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

D&D articles for Wikipedia 0.7

Hi there! :)

As someone who's worked on D&D and/or RPG articles before, I'm inviting you to participate in our goal to both improve articles that have been selected to be placed in the next Wikipedia DVD release, as well as nominate more to be selected for this project. Please see the WikiProject D&D talk page for more details. :) BOZ (talk) 15:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hellboy franchise

With Wikipedia 0.7 looming I am going to be a bit of house-cleaning which will involve splitting a few articles and one of the will be Hellboy - the plan being start the discussion to split off the spin-offs to a franchise article and replicate the comic titles over (as they are part of the franchise after all) but as it is one of the first such splits to start a franchise article I thought I'd run it past you first to see if you had any ideas that might be useful before I get the ball rolling. (Emperor (talk) 23:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Infobox

For the sister projects, can you add Simple? Jennavecia ^(Talk) 06:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indiana Jones

This was brought to our attention at WP Films, and I thought you'd like to know. Someone apparently decided to unilaterally create Wikipedia:WikiProject Indiana Jones just recently - you may want to intervene with the editors quickly so as to bring it into the franchise project as a task force. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 03:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject: Dungeons & Dragons

Hi! I’ve been working on a lot of ‘’Dungeons & Dragons’’ articles lately and saw that you were a member of WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons), and am inviting you to rejoin Wikipedia’s D&D group. I've been hard at work removing tags placed inappropriately on D&D articles, as well as modifying articles to remove tags that were placed legitimately. In addition, I have been compiling related articles together so that the articles are longer, making it easier to remove tags and to have short articles on lesser topics by just putting it into another appropriate article (links to such compiled articles can be found on my userpage). Check out the project here , and ask any questions that you may have here. Thank you for your time. Drilnoth (talk) 20:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One year comparison Wikipedia:WikiProject Maryland

At the end of November last year there were 1300 articles in the Md. Project
At the end of November this year there were 4000 articles in the Md. Project

An increase of 2700 articles.

At the end of November last year there were 7 featured articles in the Md. Project
At the end of November this year there were 10 featured articles in the Md. Project

An increase of 3 articles.

At the end of November last year there was 1 (one) A-class article in the Md. Project
At the end of November this year there was 1 (one) A-class article in the Md. Project

An increase of 0 articles.

Just put that out there for the project's consideration.
--«Marylandstater» ^«^reply^» 03:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]