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I request a little arbitration

Hi, I'm 201.218.81.108 but I have created an account, well, since I have seen this happening several times I want you to do something for me.

In the article Copa Airlines normally, as I have seen before, two users misunderstood several users with sockpuppets since there was a vandal who uploaded bad tagged images and I have seen two cases of this happening, so, to prevent them from misunderstanding me as a vandal from just editing potentially similar, would you care on seeing if the below is true?

A transportation company, such as a shipping or airline company, that is registered in a given state. Example: "American Airlines, while a private firm, is a U.S. flag carrier."

I also saw on a spanish page that COPA is the national flag carrier of the country, Panama, and there's nothing about this on the article's page and I want to correct some information without being blocked just like the two other users, will you care, again I say, to tell them I'm not a sock puppet of that vandal and that I'm not a treat to the page just as you said?

88.233.240.204

Hello I am this user ---> 88.233.241.41 Please use simple English. I am not an American or English. I'm Turkish. I know intermediate - advanced English. And I have a account in Turkish Wikipedia. Thanks! --88.233.240.204 18:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Shall I create an account? Can you help me? --88.233.240.204 18:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

sorry, I wasn't meaning for being too rude but there are some admins and users that are to strict and eventually become too mischevious, I didn't meant anything bad, sorry for any problems here. 201.218.81.108 02:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello

I'm --> (88.233.240.204) <-- this. And I took an account. How can I get to userboxes? --King QwEr 07:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I took your time but I needed a help. Thanks for helps! But and I will have more questions soon. I must go. Bye. I will enter in evening. What time is it there? --King QwEr 07:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocking of 212.85.20.100

This IP address relates to St Paul's School in London (as noted at the top of the talk page), of which I am a student. As with any school, there are going to be the stupid few who vandalise Wikipedia, but surely the solution is not just to repeatedly block us - can I ask what the normal policy is with schools vandalising Wikipedia? ~ Alexlmuller 12:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Cumberland and H-1B

I noticed that you ghave been involved with an editor who has pparently used several identities and IPs. I just became aware of the variety of accounts used, and wasn't sure if you were aware too. My research indicates that these users are almost certainly the same person:

It's possible that these may be that person as well:

I didn't see any specific instances of abusing sock puppets by skewing consensus, but I may have missed something. He mostly edits articles broadly related to Cumberland, Maryland and H-1B visas. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Mayo High School

I put that there because I was the student who because I had apergers syndrom she said I could not go the trip without a chaperone! I put that there so the whole word would know that Jarvis is not a good teacher!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.209.221 (talk • contribs)

Joshuastallings

I think you should consider a longer block. He vandalized a userpage twice and put offensive content. He created a bunch of bad pages. And I think he'll do more tomorrow. Cheers, JetLover 02:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm ...

Now that was kinda rude! Ah well ... onwards we go - Alison ☺ 02:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Ownershp of IP Address

Let me get this straight - I own this IP address, or at least I rent it. Its a private residence. VanTucky decides to paste a bunch of glop here, I don't want to see it, and you're DEFENDING his right to do that? I've contributed over 1000 positive edits to Wikipedia and I don't need to be preached to. I'll log in using my main address from now on, but really, you don't like it when I put crap on your talk page, and you reverted it, so why don't I have the right to do the same? 24.15.208.65 02:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Maybe so. But not on Wikipedia. It's a private website. IP addresses and associated talk pages are assumed to belong to shared IPs (as most are). You might maybe think of using your main account to alleviate the problem? Cut your losses, etc? Please do assume some good faith on behalf of your fellow-editors, though. We're all just here to help the project - Alison ☺ 02:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

74.114.254.115

You blocked 74.114.254.115 (talk) last week for 48 hours. They have since returned and are continuing to make similar edits, mainly deleting songs from track listings on albums. Since I have been involved with reverting and warning the user, I'm not sure if it is appropriate for me to block them as well. Because their edits are less frequent, and I am not catching them in the act, it doesn't make sense to take it to WP:AIV.

Any coaching you'd like to give me on this case would be appreciated. ~ BigrTex 15:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Generation Y Culture Article

Yes I was trying to update the article, perhaps I should have notified you afterwards. I'm trying to merge the article with the original Generation Y article. Sorry for the confusion, but I feel that this update is necessary, talk to me if you want to discuss it further. Thanks Rumble 74 26 June 2007.

Thanks for the feedback, I added an edit summary explanation for the edit, I'll also try to get a link up to re-direct the page to the original article. Rumble 74 26 June 2007.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumble74 (talk • contribs)

User talk:LKDS

I see you have full protected User talk:LKDS, and rightly so. For JetLover's sake, however, you may want to finish the revert I started of this vandal edit. Thanks, Satori Son 00:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

User:76.175.239.114

I think he should be permanently blocked cause he'll probbaly go back to the same crap after the block has expired.-- Hornetman16 03:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Block

Recently, you have blocked a computer from editing due to vandalism. The computer you have blocked was in a school in London and it affects every computer in it. Is it possible to remove the block so that some teachers can edit wikipedia wisely. The school even has its own wikipedia article that i recently updated.Orgel 18:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The grand majority my blocks to IP addresses are for IP editors only. Sign in, as you have, and you can edit during the block. Kukini hablame aqui 20:11, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Dangerjim

Thanks for asking. Sorry for the instant delete. I'm a newbie, still trying to figure things out.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangerjim (talk • contribs)

Thanks again.

I signed the page (I hope?), does everything else look OK? Let me know if you notice any problems. thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangerjim (talk • contribs)

ah-yes

thx....--yes 21:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangerjim (talk • contribs)

Chocolate Rhino = Komodo Lover.

The sockpuppet. 212.219.92.36 08:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Discrimination WikiProject

I've created the project page. Welcome. - Keith D. Tyler 17:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

I do have a lot to learn about Wikipedia, and in general I'll probably avoid the political sections. However, once I start an argument, it's hard for me to quit! :) Thanks for the resources. Benhocking 22:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem. You will do great here! --Kukini hablame aqui 22:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, although I don't want it to become an issue on general "talk" pages, my politics are probably more in line with yours than with those who want to delete the "State terrorism" article (although I'll admit to being a hard one to figure out as my positions do not tie closely to any party, including the non-dominant parties). For example, I assume we both agree on who is the worst president in US history. On the other hand, I get the impression that you're more of a "liberal arts" kind of guy/gal, where as I'm more of a "technical" or "hard sciences" kind of guy. In that vain, you'll find me arguing to support smaller points on their technical merits even when I don't agree with the bigger picture that someone else is trying to paint with them (if that makes sense). Benhocking 22:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Landmark FLC

I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your support on the candidacy. I want you to know that I am in the midst of interlinking the articles via some navigational templates and I have started color coding the list according to the templates. I didn't want it to seem like I was sneaking these changes in after you voted so I am notifying you before the nomination closes. Any feedback would be appreciated. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Evidence of sockpuppetry

I urged Cpzphantom to stop posting his POV edits in my talk page using anonymous IP's. He refuses. Here is evidence that this user is blocked user trying to get around his blocks by using anonymous IP's

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASchonbrunn&diff=141457703&oldid=141441144

Look at the history in my talk page. He continues to try to edit while being blocked. I believe that IP 201.218.81.108 should be blocked as a sockpuppet of Cpzphantom--Schonbrunn 19:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of GNS

Hey I was wondering why my page was deleted? The title was GNS. I copied the source code into a text file so it's ok, I just want to make sure it wont be deleted again. Whoever deleted it said it was a hoax, NOT true, GNS even has a website. www.team-gns.net, although the information on the website is vague, what I have in this article is true and from many sources, personal and media.

I am going to put it back up, please let me know what I can do to make sure it doesn't get taken down again for such reasons. I thank you so much. - Jon — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonVega7 (talk • contribs)

GNS article

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it. What do you mean by Notabiliy and Verifiability? Can you please get more into detail about what needs to be done in order for this to not be deleted? If you have a help article to reference me to, that would be great. Thank you so much.- Jon— Preceding unsigned comment added by JonVega7 (talk • contribs)

Relating to the Triism article

Hi. This is Leninist. You have been monitoring my article 'Triism' for a few days, and I would say that you have been very helpful in helping me learn how to correctly not only write but also correctly edit an article. Concerning the article of Triism, the reference of the "Explanation of Triism" is a pamphlet that was printed which briefly explained the concept. However, I do see your point about verifiability. It was very localized, and I assume you are right in posing such a question. That said, i am not entirely sure of how to thus cite so that it can be accessed easily by all. In that you can see my dilemma. I hope that this complication does not cause the entire article to be refuted and deleted. --Leninist 09:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

References

References should either be proper references, listing title, author, date, etc., or inline references. Putting "ref" "/ref" around inline citations gives you the worst of both worlds; it does not provide you with any more information than the inline citation, but forces you to click once, then reposition, then click again, to get anywhere useful. Either create proper citations, or leave the inline citations alone, please. Jayjg (talk) 00:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with inline citations. "ref"-style citations are better, but only if they're created properly. I've given you a couple of examples of how to do it. Only convert inline citations to refs if you're going to do it properly. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 00:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your notes. Wikipedia:Citing sources#Inline citations should be helpful. Jayjg (talk) 20:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the invitation to join Wikipedia, but I already have an account (User:Journalist). I'm just editing anonymously because I can't be bothered to log in. 99.245.185.52 06:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I logged in ;). Orane (talk) 07:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Banrstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
This is for being a damn good vandal fighter and for beating me to vandalism on many occasions. Keep up the good work! †Sir James Paul† 19:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Have a happy 4 of July! Cheers:)--†Sir James Paul† 20:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like some Brights could use some help

I noticed earlier that you were an admin, so when I stumbled on the Bright Wikipedians category talk page and noticed they were in need of some admin help, I figured I'd pass it along. (They just want to rename the category to the more accurate Wikipedian Brights.) Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 02:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Telegon, etc.

Is there any way we can stop this guy from coming back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gscshoyru (talk • contribs)

"Please understand that blanking your talk page in NO WAY hides your edit history"

Please understand that you are making a huge assumption by thinking I believe that's what I'm doing. SkagitRiverQueen 17:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelly A. Siebecke (talk • contribs)

"Please also sign your posts with four tildes" - There you go making assumptions again...SkagitRiverQueen 17:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelly A. Siebecke (talk • contribs)

"Welcome to Wikipedia. An article you recently created may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new articles, so it will shortly be removed (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do and please read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you."--Kukini hablame aqui 22:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Exactly which article are you referring to? SkagitRiverQueen 22:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelly A. Siebecke (talk • contribs)

The article to which I refer is User:SkagitRiverQueen. If you would like to open that account up as your sockpuppet, this can be done, but you will have to log off first and create the new account. If your intention is to create a signature with this name, which appears more likely, this is not the appropriate manner to do it. --Kukini hablame aqui 22:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

First of all, I have no intention of creating a sockpuppet, Secondly, several months ago I went (with pure intentiions) to the "My Preferences" area of my Wiki account to see what was there. I changed my raw signature to SkagitRiverQueen. Logically, it stands to reason that if this was something WP frowned upon that it would not be an option. Considering that, why is it a problem for you and Keith Tyler? I not only resent the suggestion that I am trying to do something snarky here, frankly, it's insulting. I'm sure that there are a good number of WP abusers, but I am not one of them. You want to get rid of the user page I created today, fine. I couldn't care less. But, really, this whole thing seems to be turning into more of a personal thing for you rather than a WP administrator exercising his duties properly and maturely (and after viewing some of the other comments on your talk page, I don't think I'm the only one with this perception).

Seriously, don't you have more important things to do than pick on a middle-aged woman for using a particular signature and cleaning up her user-talk page? SkagitRiverQueen 22:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelly A. Siebecke (talk • contribs)

Yeah, I pointed her to Wikipedia:Username change as an alternate suggestion, and haven't heard back yet. I have a hard time believing that s/he thinks that one's username changes based on what you type in the sig field. I think Kelly is just WP:POINTing. Of all my days in WP:AMA I never saw anyone wikilawyer as bad as Kelly has been. - Keith D. Tyler 22:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Guess what Keith? Unless you've become a WP administrator within the last few hours, you're not going to hear back from me on it. Oh, and BTW - that's Ms. Siebecke to you. SkagitRiverQueen 22:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelly A. Siebecke (talk • contribs)
Kelly A. Siebecke, I am an administrator, thus I am confused by your most recent comment. Please feel invited to check here: Wikipedia:List of administrators. Best, Kukini hablame aqui 22:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

"Kelly (SkagitRiverQueen), you seem to not understand...you did change your signature, but you did not do it correctly. We are concerned because it will make it very difficult for newer users (and all other users) to respond to you. Unlike when you respond to us, we cannot click on your signature as you have it to get to your page. Also, when you created a userpage for User:SkagitRiverQueen, you did this in error. I strongly suggest that you consider adjusting your signature, or asking for a name change to User:SkagitRiverQueen. What might happen if you do not, is some other user might request that username, leaving you unable to sign with it anymore." Best, Kukini hablame aqui 22:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Now, tell me - wasn't giving me a chance to explain myself and responding with a reasonable tone and explanation easier and better than accusing me of something I wouldn't have even considered doing? Thanks for the assistance. SkagitRiverQueen 22:58, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm quite aware you are an administrator, Kukini. If you re-read what I wrote above, you'll see that my response was directed at Keith and his comments about me. SkagitRiverQueen 22:58, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

"Thank you for taking the time to adjust your signature based on our concerns. I am sorry to have caused you hassle with this and wish you well as you move forward into the community!" --Kukini hablame aqui 23:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, this whole incident has caused me to re-evaluate whether I even want to be a contributor to Wikipedia any longer.SkagitRiverQueen 23:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
This is entirely up to you, but please realize that a community as large as this has norms and rules that we all have to follow (admins as well). I hope you see this in that light. Kukini hablame aqui 23:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

I appreciate that.  :) --Iamunknown 01:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I apologise

Sorry about signing my user name without signing in, it's just easier sometimes. Glooper 02:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Proudbolsahye

hey what do u mean by scratch that, im new to this stuff please help me out.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Proudbolsahye (talk • contribs)

Heat level on COPA

Hi, I've have detected that an editor Schonbrunn is presenting aggression against new users on COPA Airlines page, eventually reverting their edits and accussing them to be sock puppets, just cause they edit and are new, I check this webpage periodically and see that he present aggression against other new wikipedians, I have seen two cases in which innocent users are presented as sockpuppets, well, two cases where real sockpuppeting but others weren't and I request you to disscuss what to do with other users. 201.218.72.39 22:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

you will have my thanks.

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

University of Saskatchewan

Noticed you were a member of Wikiproject Canada - Education.... Celebrate the Centennial University of Saskatchewan Anniversary in the year 2007. Would you please go to Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive and vote for this University of Saskatchewan article!!! Tell any and all other editors / U of S students you know who wiki to vote also please!!! Please help Celebrate the Anniversary of the U of S University of Saskatchewan Academics Talk Please help to bring the article to feature status !!!SriMesh | talk 02:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

The Bionic Redneck

Thanks for the warm welcome lets talk anytime.--The Bionic Redneck 00:38, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Mayo High School Page

I appreciate that you're being protective of wikipedia, but you when you blindly reverted the page to remove the staff list you let in a lot of old opinionated content. If you don't agree that it is opinion and not fact you should look at the wikipedia guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangledorf (talk • contribs)

Question

Why did you welcome a vandal? Oysterguitarist 06:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I was actually writing to you about that right now, my reasons: Because I have dealt with editors before who upload images to vandalize and I feel it is better to report them to AIV and not make contact with them because they usually just harass the users trying to deal with them. I was reviewing there edits to make sure they were gone before notifying AIV about the user and noticed you had welcomed them. Oysterguitarist 06:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I know most admins would not block without working with editors first, it's just that I prefer admins are notified in these types of cases because they have rollback buttons and are able to deal with vandalism faster than a person using an undo button, cause all the vandal has to do is paste the image in the artical and go on vandalising. Cheers Oysterguitarist 07:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Khukini: "Understood. And I see that you do use the warning system with some editors. Thanks for your work here and for what you do to add to the community." with some editors? I am confused, I rarly never use a template for warning editors.Oysterguitarist 07:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
The template I used for them was {{uw-delete1}}. Oysterguitarist 18:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I was reading threw your comments and you said that the welcoming of that user should not be challenged, I just want to say that I was not challenging you I was just wondering if you knew if he was a vandal and you did 'a vandal welcome' like they did. You probably hate me by now but I want you to know that I am truly sorry for this. Oysterguitarist 02:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


Re: Deletion of Dryve article

Hello,

You were involved in a debate back in March/April regarding an article on the band Dryve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dryve

For whatever reason, it was resurrected again for debate and deleted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dryve_%28second_nomination%29

Could you be of help in reversing the deletion? I was a founding member of the band and I can fully verify any and all of the information in the article. I firmly believe it meets the requirements laid out in WP:MUSIC.

Thank you and please contact me if you need any more information.

Keith Andrew kickstar1@hotmail.com --Kickstar1 04:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Smile

Connell66 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Requests for deletion

I am that user. I can't sign in because I irrevocably disabled the account months ago. If you want to verify this, you can look at old versions of the userpage. You'll find a URL for my website, and on there you'll find my e-mail. The presence of this link is part of the reason I want the page deleted. 81.178.224.84 13:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe I am using the process. Please do tell me which other process I should be using, if requesting deletion of my user pages is not it. 81.178.224.84 13:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I recall that Worldtraveller scrambled his password, and made some edits from a similar, but not identical, IP. I've left a not at User talk:Bishonen, as I think she might be able to make a judgment. My instinct is to accept that the IP really is Worldtraveller. ElinorD (talk) 13:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, this is definitely Worldtraveller. See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/InShaneee where Worldtraveller was expressly identified as editing from IP's in that range. (Of course, I'm disappointed that he's not complying with the ArbCom's request that he resume contributing content to the encyclopedia, but I can't figure out how to enforce it!) Regards, Newyorkbrad 14:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, guys. I've left a note for World at User talk:81.178.224.84. Bishonen | talk 15:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC).

to kukimi

kukimi,

i dont know who you are but i was sure not trying to vandalize that webpage. If you have any misunderstandings, now it is the time to talk clear about it. I dont have very good typing skills and can create errors at time. You made me feel bad, saying i was vandalizing the page. I actually did do some corrections. Please make sure that you change your system of working.

Sincerly, Guest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.36.43 (talk • contribs)

help please

hi kukini Can i store some information in my log in?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Varun vaidya (talk • contribs)

gee thanks

Thanks for your help. I just wanted to store some information and i just thought that i would contribute something at the same time because the changes i made was very much pertinent to that surround system topic.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Varun vaidya (talk • contribs)

An Anti Movement

Seems you inspired an Anti movement today :P...¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 05:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

OK...so I feel I just broke into a new realm of existence! Wow! --Kukini hablame aqui 05:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Kukini

Thanks for messaging me.

Is the following complaint current? I worked for months to resolve it a year or two ago.

And what do I do about my user name. I'm Howard Bloom. I don't want to rename myself.

Thanks for your aid.

Here's the complaint in question:

Your username is inappropriate or too similar to an existing username (see our blocking policy for more information). You are encouraged to create a new account and contribute to Wikipedia under a more appropriate username, and in a constructive manner. See Wikipedia:Username for guidance on selecting an appropriate username. You may also edit Wikipedia without creating an account. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia under an inappropriate username.

I have also noticed you have been engaging in vandalism[1], please stop pretending to be the publicist Howard Bloom, or prove you are the person at WP:RFC/NAME.

Howard Howard Bloom Author of The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History ("mesmerizing"-The Washington Post), Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century ("reassuring and sobering"-The New Yorker), and How I Accidentally Started The Sixties ("a monumental, epic, glorious literary achievement." Timothy Leary). Recent Visiting Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University; Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute www.howardbloom.net www.bigbangtango.net Founder: International Paleopsychology Project; founder: Space Development Steering Committee; founder: The Big Bang Tango Media Lab; founding board member: Epic of Evolution Society; founding board member, The Darwin Project; Member of Board of Governors, National Space Society; member: New York Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Association for Psychological Science, Aerospace Technology Working Group, Academy of Political Science, Human Behavior and Evolution Society, International Society for Human Ethology; Scientific Advisory Board Member, Lifeboat Foundation; advisory board member: Institute for Accelerating Change; executive editor -- New Paradigm book series.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Howbloom (talk • contribs)

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