User talk:KnowledgeGod17

February 2024

Hello, I'm MrOllie. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. MrOllie (talk) 21:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Peace Mr. Ollie. I am putting the truth together to be displayed from the son of the father. There are alot of grave lies and misconceptions in the prior context KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 21:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Such as the 1964 date and it was 1965. We were never known as nge or noge yet Five Percenters. Hip hop did not play a roll with the Five Percenters yet the mind of Allah KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 21:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

You not even a Five Percenter to tell me what to put thats truth about My culture you didn’t even say PEACE I will not stop so you can report me or get me banned i have several emails KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 22:17, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

You need to be tolerant of other cultures here. In my culture, we don't say "peace", we say "serenity now". _signed, Willondon (talk) 22:26, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Not here and you didn’t say that N were not talking about your culture were talking about ours in which you are trying to ridicule. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 22:33, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing on Five-Percent Nation. If you want to continue editing, you will need to learn to do things properly:

• You need to learn how to edit properly, without just hacking out content and parts of markup. Take a look at the page as you left it after each of your last three edits: [1], [2], [3]. You left the page "broken" and incoherent.
• You need to learn how Wikipedia views verifiability and reliable sources. You are hacking out chunks of content which have sources listed to support them, and replacing it with content that does not have a source to support it.

Please investigate further on how to edit Wikipedia before continuing. You can ask other editors here for help, or ask at the Teahouse. The essay at Wikipedia:Five pillars is a good introduction to what Wikipedia is all about. Thank you. _signed, Willondon (talk) 22:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

No it does not!! You said the five percenters was established in 1964 when the footnote you share through fbi vault states 1965. Never was a noge or nge. I have reported the entire article looking to remove it. I will stop when you stop

peace KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 22:12, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

No it does not!! What is "it", and what does "it" not do? You completely failed to address anything I said above. I will stop when you stop. Unfortunately, you are not in complete control of when you will stop; you are only in control of your behaviour and how you approach editing here within the rest of the community. So:

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. Instead, discuss with others in the community here before attempting to unilaterally force your own opinion on the article. _signed, Willondon (talk) 22:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Orange Mike | Talk 22:50, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #84923

is closed. Courtesy notification @Orangemike:, who might want to read this ticket. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

PS. @KnowledgeGod17: Please read WP:dispute resolution. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first pages you edited was Five-Percent Nation, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that page.

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KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 03:27, 15 February 2024 (UTC) Hello, As I had stated in the teahouse before being banned. I did read the user agreements and reached out through email for wikimedia and conflict resolution. I read that if the information is accurate and backed up it could be changed. The very Fbi articles that are provided in the reference on the page is my reference. I am a Five Percenter and not affiliated with The Nation of Gods and Earths. When I commented to the editors I did not use any demeaning terms. Its my first time reading these false accusations as the Five Percenters have never wrote this article. The Author of the article is of Muslim culture respectfully he is not a Five Percenter yet the Nation of Islam. The year established as explained of why I was editing. The Five Percenters was established in 1965 not 1964. This is a government document I am providing as well as what is in the reference of this article. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 03:27, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

No I am not looking for contributions or money Im looking for accuracy in the article. I also overviewed the discussion as asked. Still yet as I actually thought it was the one writing and not understanding the way Wikipedia worked. I was clear on why I edited and also suggested where to look on multiple replies. I did not ramsack the article. The edits were justifiable to me that I made. The banning me seemed to be a use of power against me and my culture. Nobody even read what I was saying. Someone told me what they said in their culture. I said Peace I did not request money or do anything other than re edit as their response was not to correct yet put the false information back. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 04:23, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Please follow the instructions for requesting unblocking. Please describe concisely and clearly how your edits merited a block, what you would do differently, and what constructive edits you would make. Please read Wikipedia's Guide to appealing blocks for more information.. If you achieve unblocking and agree to not WP:edit war, but rather discuss (calmly) content and sourcing, then you can be unblocked to discuss content and sourcing. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. To say someone cannot edit an article because they are not a member of the group the article is about, or that they are a member of a different group, is inconsistent with Wikipedia. No your behavior is the reason for your block. Not your culture. Don't know why you think anyone would think you wanted money to contribute. As you have a conflict of interest, you should agree to discuss rather than editing your self. Please reread the part about dispute resolution. There appears to be much you have missed. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

" All content must be cited from reliable, independent sources with a reputation for fact checking." The son of whoever does not meet that requirement. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

(Unblock) In the above mention I stated a reference that was posted to the article by the government. Not the "son of whoever". I do think that this was a previous issue in the article that I when corresponding. Also in the above you mentioned that if I was looking for compensation the proper route to do so. Now did I understand how Wikipedia worked… No! The "editors" I thought were the actual people whom wrote it. It became back and forth as I did not know those were volunteers and also did what was advised to do after sending multiple emails. Thats how I was able to appeal. Moving forward if unblocked as the constructive edit as I now see would be to converse prior to doing so with the what why and my resource. I want to also extend that I was using safari and not the mobile app in which I have now installed. The correspondence doesnt show at thr bottom of the website. Never knew of the option prior to editing nor as much as I understand now on how things are operated when making edits. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 12:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

(Unblock) Also @deepfriedokra I acknowledged the fact check which is in accordance to the government document that im referring to. The edits that I made were also in the government document from the FBI vault. The year was 1965. The Five Percenters are anything but religious. The nation of gods and earths and the Five Percenters are two separate cultures. Nation of Gods and Earths school is Allah school in Mecca. The Five Percenters school is the Urban league street academy. The edits that were made were not inaccurate yet on my behalf again I should have sought out "how" instead of "doing". KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 12:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

(Unblock) One last thing to add is that if edits cannot be made or I cant come to a desired outcome on my behalf I now understand how to create an article on my own as another resolution of conflict I sought out myself. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 12:11, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

To request unblocking you'll need to copy

{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}

to the bottom of your talk page and fill inwhere it says "your reason here." Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:00, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

{{unblock|reason= I did not originally understand the rules of editing Wikipedia. I did not understand that the editors actually worked for or volunteer for Wikipedia. I did not have access to the tea page initially when editing as I was using the website and noticed notification bell after editing numerous times then responding. I now understand the editing process and moving forward I know to in advance of trying to edit any page on Wikipedia to consult with a reason and fact check evidence to assist my reason. [[User:KnowledgeGod17|KnowledgeGod17]] ([[User talk:KnowledgeGod17#top|talk]]) 14:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)}} [[User:KnowledgeGod17|KnowledgeGod17]] ([[User talk:KnowledgeGod17#top|talk]]) 14:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• What do you want to edit, if unblocked? PhilKnight (talk) 17:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

KnowledgeGod17 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Your reason here KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 3:27 pm, 17 February 2024, Saturday (11 days ago) (UTC−5)

Accept reason:

Agrees to not edit about The Five Percenters directly, and to discuss content and sourcing on the talk page. Welcome back -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

What I would like to edit that I can actually provide a fact check for is the year the Five Percenters originated which was 1965 not 1964. Per the reference that was used in the article (Fbi vault) as well as referring to the Five Percenters as the Five Percenters. I have a few references for that as well yet unsure if reliable as the above mentioned government document. I would also like to address again that I truly apologize and I sincerely did not know that the administratiors speaking we're administrators. I never tried to edit anything ever on wikipedia. I understand how this goes now. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Editing on your own or someone else's behalf

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"All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking."

Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk page and achieve consensus for any changes Please make WP:EDITREQUESTs on the article's talk page. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

In short, I cannot see unblocking you to directly edit articles within your WP:conflict of interest. You would need to discuss content and sourcing as indicated above. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:14, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Your just trying to give me a hard time for whatever reason. I never said I wanted to unblock specifically to edit articles. It was that particular article again and I had provided all of that in which you are mentioning multiple times in my responses that are not being read obviously. The Reference that is Mentioned in this article if read again states these are Five Percenters that began in 1965. Its not pertaing to a PERSON. I understand guidelines are not being followed and you are in short not attentive to the request because a lack of understanding in the proof is in the Fbi reference article yet an official government article is not enough ok. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 15:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

How do I report an administrator that would be better for me KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 15:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

You got two open unblock requests. Someone will come along eventually. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

@JBW and 331dot: Would either of you or both look at this? Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I will but it will need to be later. 331dot (talk) 16:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

If you aren't going to edit articles, what is is that you are going to do? 331dot (talk) 21:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I was requesting an edit in that article. Being totally honest nothing on Wiki has ever been concerning enough as this to have a want to just go around editing. I was told to put unblock when responding. The issue is nobody is taking the time to read what I am saying. I made a mistake with the vandalism as I did not know how and still don't know in totality how to navigate nor did I understand the proper way. This is why I have multiple unblock requests didn't know that. The editing was valid. The way in which I went about it was wrong. I can't use the talk page for the article at all. I am a Five Percenter which means nothing to anyone else other than another Five Percenter. The Culture was established in 1965 its a year off. And again I have never edited in the past, didn't know I had the option to and nor did I know the people whom were removing my edits were administrators. Per the "I will not stop editing until you do" comment. I didn't know. The reference that is used from the FBI backs up the edits and what im saying. Yet nobody will even like look. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 13:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

I think the gist is that you need to agree not to edit that article directly, and discuss content and sourcing on the talk page, in a WP:CIVIL, collaborative manner. If you have so agreed, I missed it. But if you could state as much it would help us to help you. Then we could ask @Orangemike: about unblocking. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes I had agreed 3 times prior now that I do actually understand the "how" and not just "do" . I never had an intention on causing any disturbance with any administration as again I did not know I was speaking to them. I agree to NOT edit articles and discuss on the article talk page. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I will not edit articles and will follow the proper protocols once again. Now especially that I know how to. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

@Orangemike: OK to unblock? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes. KG, please be aware that you are making assertions which flatly contradict the current sourced content of this article. I don't know who is wrong and who is right here, but, as one editor to another: 1) keep calm; 2) be aware that we insist on published sources, not personal knowledge (however hard-earned); 3) be aware that FBI reports, especially from that era, are not necessarily accurate. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Will do I appreciate it ! Pardon me again. KnowledgeGod17 (talk) 16:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)