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Your submission at Articles for creation: Aleem Zafar (February 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by EDG 543 was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 00:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Aleem Zafar (February 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Theroadislong were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 15:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I think the basis of rejection is kind of not fair. The references provided are from the biggest news magazine outlets where the artist belongs from therefore those are reliable & independent sources. I feel this subject is very subjective and kind of depends where the person being talked about belongs to and the news / magazine outlets rankings. Might be not reliable for some, but they might be extremely reliable for some. Kindly review it, with all due respect xx thank you ❤️ Kiranin69 (talk) 20:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theroadislong: Can you kindly elaborate for Kiranin69, please? (I'm just pinging you as Kiranin69 did not) I feel you are better suited to explain, and I am a bit busy at the moment. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 20:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I declined Draft:Aleem Zafar because I couldn't see how he passed WP:NMUSICIAN. Neutrality is also a MAJOR problem, content like "Owing to his popularity and big fan-following". "famed Bollywood actor", "emerging talent started his own venture", "a renowned name", "a huge success", "covering a famous track", "to pursue his dream", "Pakistani legend", " rendition of the patriotic song", "appreciated by several famous celebrities", "a well known production house"...none of this is appropriate neutral tone. Theroadislong (talk) 21:22, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Like i mentioned earlier. I think that point you mentioned about the sources is extremely subjective. I assume you provide the best references according to the country the person belongs to. Now some of them might think they’re okay and some might not. According to the research these were the best independent news / magazine outlets from that country and they don’t look promotional either so I personally feel and also think with immense respect that you should give this one a lighter hand.

Regarding the sucess part. I’ve seen it in many other articles on wikipedia for references that’s why it was mentioned here as well. I think biographies do tend to show any artist’s success and flops for fans to know. It’s not promotional merely a part of any artists career.

I have re-edited and resubmitted. Requesting you to please make any changes if necessary instead of declining 🙏

Thank you x Kiranin69 (talk) 05:05, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kiranin69, you did a very good job removing promotional-sounding words. However, I think you may need to address Theroadislong's concerns with WP:NMUSICIAN. I would suggest that you read over that section to see if this musician is considered notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 20:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think they’re news worthy. I’ve went through each of them and they do not look like press releases. They have the subject discussed in their own point of view in the articles. Please do review it thank you xx ❤️ Getting an article approved would be like a big thing for me. I’ve tried my level best in this and like you said earlier i think it has a chance it’s not like its on zero 🥺😟 Kiranin69 (talk) 08:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aleem Zafar (February 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Devonian Wombat was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Aleem Zafar and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Aleem Zafar, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:14, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

😫😫 Would you please mind explaining on which parts does this sound like an advertisement? It was declined before for this reason but i re edited it and removed all the parts that looked like an advertisement or not neutral. I have seen other Wikipedia articles of people and they are written in the exact same tone. Please let me know the parts you think should not be there 🥲 xx ❤️ Kiranin69 (talk) 02:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well just one example would be this massive chunk of unsourced marketing trumpery..."In 2015, Zafar joined Pakistan's youngest singer Asim Azhar as his public relations and marketing manager. Aleem has released several songs with Asim Azhar, playing a significant part in Azhar's biggest breakthrough in India through Zee Network. Several music videos of Asim Azhar feature Aleem's name including 'Soniye', 'Mahi Ajaa' a track which was also featured in Coke Studio season 11. Some other celebrities Aleem has worked with include Uzair Jaswal, Roxen, Saad Sultan, Hamza Malik, Humaima Malick, Faakhir, Omer Nadeem, Bilal Saeed and many more. In the past, Aleem has also managed some underground artists, including "Ifti", who sung the title track of drama serial Mai Abdul Qadir Hon, which was broadcast on HUM TV, Bilal Rubbani, Raast the Band and many others. Venturing further into the industry, Aleem endorsed several well-known brands and even signed a film ’21Miles’ which was supposedly announced to be released back in 2016 but the project eventually came to an end without the film being released." That should certainly be removed. Theroadislong (talk) 08:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I mean this is more of a biography of what the person has done. If that’s not mentioned in the biography what else would be? I suppose biographies are supposed to showcase the career of a person. As an ex celebrity manager shouldnt that be a part of the biography? Kiranin69 (talk) 12:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Or can you re-edit and remove what you think shouldnt be there and help out a girl here. It’s been like 3 people declined it and all had different thoughts of what should be removed. I’ve seen other biographies and have taken notes from them to write this one. Kiranin69 (talk) 12:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aleem Zafar (February 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Praxidicae were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Aleem Zafar and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Aleem Zafar, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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CUPIDICAE💕 16:33, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest

What is your connection with User:Kiranhaq95? Deb (talk) 08:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Deb: None, can you please please restore the article and allow me to re edit it 🙏 Kiranin69 (talk) 01:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC) (mentioned by me. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 02:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC))[reply]

Aleem Zafar

Kiranin69, the draft you had been working on, Aleem Zafar, has been deleted as editors noted that much of it appeared to be copied off of his official website. At first it was going to be deleted for appearing to be an ad, which I did contest, but I couldn't contest the copyright issues as they were true. If you still want to create the draft, you will need to be sure to use your own words, as copy/pasting text is a serious violation. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 13:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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