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Kevin Feng
[edit]Some real sources that are independent of the subject (i.e. not his own webpage, not the webpages of shows and events he's been directly involved in, not people's MySpace pages, etc.) would go a long way... Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- For the record, the reason VH1's webpage isn't a reliable source is that it's the webpage of a show that he starred in — which means that it's not independent coverage of him, but promotional content posted by a company with which he had a direct financial relationship. Similarly, PRWeb isn't an independent source, either, as it's just a press release distribution service — I could post something to PRWeb if I wanted to, but that wouldn't in and of itself make me notable enough to be an encyclopedia topic. People's MySpace pages and his own blog also don't count as reliable sources, because they're self-published pages that can include inaccurate and/or promotional content that hasn't been vetted by an editorial process the way newspaper coverage is. The Toledo Blade article does count, but the problem there is that our policy also requires substantial coverage, which means the Toledo Blade article can't be the only valid source in the article.
- Our reliable sources policy is very largely about distinguishing between good sources (coverage in independent media) and bad ones (the topic's own website, their own press releases, etc.), precisely because pretty much every single thing and nearly every single person in at least the developed world would qualify for an article if we didn't maintain a distinction between real coverage and the person's own Twitter account.
- The article will be at User:Kip 78/Kevin Feng. Sorry for the delay, but you know, weekend... Bearcat (talk) 20:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
It's okay to use the VH1 link as a confirming reference for additional information once enough other sources have been added to establish basic notability; it just can't be used as the core "he's notable because of this link" reference. His own blog might be more useful as an external link instead of a reference, though.
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Hope that helps. Bearcat (talk) 15:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
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I had the chance to read through the article and check out all your sources. I'm not sure if the article has a chance since Kevin Feng isn't automatically notable, but I'll be happy to help out with some copyediting and cleaning up. I'll start tomorrow...let's see if we get anywhere with it and if I can find better/more secondary resources (a lot of the current ones need to go). ~dee(talk?) 21:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
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