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Hi. Have you ever heard about an device called "the Herodotus machine"? Some users persistently try to introduce this (fictitious?) "Herodotus machine" into the article of Khufu... Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nephiliskos never heard of this machine before but I've just checked Herodotus' Histories where he essentially explains that the Great Pyramid was built as a step pyramid, and then the workers used these "short woods machines" or something, placed on each step, in order to lift up the remaining blocks like a series of elevators. I guess this must be the "Herodotus machine", but I can't say if that was fictious or not...! --Khruner (talk) 17:45, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I mainly refer to the lemma "Herodotus machine", because Herodot never invented any kind of machine. What's more: he is clearly unable to say what kind of "construction" the Ancient Egyptians had used. ;D I just wanna avoid the invention and introducing of neologisms in our precious articles. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

That's fine, anyway more infos about Herodotus' claims are here. Khruner (talk) 20:14, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Gemnefkhonsbak??

Hello Khruner, while writing the article on Shepseskare of the 5th Dynasty, I came accross a scarab seal reading "Shepeskare" [sic], which Verner and others proposed could belong to Gemnefkhonsbak Shepseskare, apparently a kinglet of the 25th Dynasty. Since you know this period very well, I was wondering if you could indicate whether there is a wiki article on this guy or not (I have not found any)? If yes, I would like to add a wikilink to this article from that on Shepseskare. Iry-Hor (talk) 08:32, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Drawing by Flinders Petrie of a scarab seal reading "Shepeskare".

Hi Iry-Hor, yes, I wrote Shepeskare-Irienre Gemenefkhonsbak's article some times ago. Curiously, in this days I'm trying desperately to find an image for him. Never heard of this scarab though. --Khruner (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, here is the scarab, and the reference for Verner stating the scarab may belong to Gemenefkhonsbak is: "Miroslav Verner (2000): Who was Shepseskara, and when did he reign?, in: Miroslav Bárta, Jaromír Krejčí (editors): Abusir and Saqqara in the Year 2000, Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic, Oriental Institute, Prague, ISBN 80-85425-39-4, p. 581–602, available online." see p. 582 (shows up as 678 in a pdf reader). I have another ref by Verner for this attribution if you need it. It might worth putting the image of the scarab up in the article on Gemenefkhonsbak. Verner's point is that the scarab style dates it to the Third Intermediate Period or Saite Period and that it reads Shepeskare rather than Shepseskare so that it is either a scarab of the latter in archaic style or correctly refers to Gemenefkhonsbak. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the scarab and the references, I will enhance the article soon! Khruner (talk) 16:08, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

A signet ring of Apophis

Hello Khruner, I remember that you like Apepi (Apophis) and I found this nice drawing by Percy Newberry of a golden signet ring of him.

The signet ring of Apepi.

The ring is supposed to read Aauserre, which is quite plausible seeing the drawing however I found the Aa sign to be weird, looking rather like a "n", in which case we could possibly read Seuserenre (i.e. Khyan) although the orthography would be different from that of Khyan's Seuserenre. What do you think? Did you know this ring? Iry-Hor (talk) 20:33, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Iry-Hor, I think I saw this drawing in Newberry's Scarabs before. Surely he was good at drawing but I can't see if the sign was an n or a Aa. However, I have no reason for believe that Newberry was not able to read hieroglyphs, so I can only assume that the ring indeed refers to Aauserre rather than Seuserenre. Anyway, I have no idea where this item could be located today. Does it appears on Ryholt's SIP? I think that a signet ring with a human-faced scarab on it and a royal cartouche is quite uncommon... Khruner (talk) 10:33, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Osorkon IV

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Osorkon IV you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 15:00, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Osorkon IV

The article Osorkon IV you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Osorkon IV for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 13:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar for You!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		For your contributions to bring Osorkon IV to Good Article status. Thanks, and keep up the good work!  — ₳aron 20:41, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

@₳aron Many thanks for your review! Khruner (talk) 21:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Osorkon IV

The article Osorkon IV you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Osorkon IV for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 20:41, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on your Osorkon IV GA! I got a glimpse of the dangerous yet fascinating times in which he lived thanks to you!

On an unrelated note, I found out that the complete Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt is available for download on scribd (the 3 volumes). The files are too large for me to send them to you directly, however if you are interested, here is how to get them (and anything on scribd really). Connect with a facebook account or create a free one on scribd. Then upload any random document (even empty) to the website and once done, come back to the page of the book on scribd. Clicking download now works. Iry-Hor (talk) 07:13, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

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article Khaba

Hi there. Could you please keep your eyes peered on the article? Some user had put in a 1:1 copy of an web article into the section "quesna tomb". I had to wipe it out of the article, but I'm a bit afraid besaid user could put it in again. See article history. Many thanks. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 19:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nephiliskos: No problem about that. Glad to see you again :) --Khruner (talk) 20:46, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Article Khufu

I found interesting stuff and thus re-wrote a great deal of the article, especially about Khufu's change in his reputations. Hope, it's ok and you enjoy it. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 14:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I've just read it. I know very little about Khufu, besides the Herodotian unrealistic fame of an ominous tyrant. Maybe the section title is a bit too long though, but I guess it's all ok..! --Khruner (talk) 16:58, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

You might be right about the headline's length... got an idea how to shorten it effectively? Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 19:31, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

@Nephiliskos: I think that something like "Modern evaluations" could be appropriate in its simplicity; I would also change the subsequent title section in the more standard form "In popular culture" in order to avoid confusions with the previous one. Khruner (talk) 22:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Better now? ;) Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:41, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

I can only approve now :) Khruner (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Osorkon IV

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:32, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Amenirdis I

After checking the article text against the sources, yes, I think it's a clear case of WP:Close paraphrasing. I should have cleaned it up at the time. Once Professor Stratosphere reverted me twice, I may have decided to leave the article alone until Stratosphere wasn't paying such close attention—in any case, I forgot about it. Stratosphere seems to be gone now, so there shouldn't be any more interference.

What do you want to do about the infringement? Going back to the October 2014 version (but leaving this edit in place) would be the easiest thing. Rewriting to retain the information Stratosphere added while removing the copyright-infringing wording would be a lot harder, and I won't have much time to work on it. A. Parrot (talk) 16:50, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Done. A. Parrot (talk) 18:48, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

about the seal

I did it. ;) But: there is no queen at all... By the way: It would be new to me that a queen's name was written in a feathered cartouche of Râ... Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Horus name and Nebty name

Hi. I just created these two articles and now I found several, pretty odd articles very similar in content, but... how to push it... I wish these to be deleted. Their quality is horrible, their refences very fragmentary and big parts of their content is redundant or concentrated too much on one subject. I could edit them, no problem. But I fear that would shorten the "problem articles" extremely! Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 23:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nephiliskos, nicely done! I can only encourage you in editing the articles that you consider poor, I think that a nice though concise article is always better than an inaccurate and verbose one. If you want, consider to write something about the Sa-Ra name too, as I need to read up on this particular topic :) --Khruner (talk) 10:19, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Prenomen (Niswt-Bity name)

I have found wonderful, additional sources. I have expanded the article and sorted some sections anew. What do yuo think? Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Undoubtely valuable add-on I think, the history of the name through the early history of Egypt is now more detailed and clear. --Khruner (talk) 07:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomen (ancient Egypt)

Thine wish was mine order. ;o) There you are. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 23:49, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

How kind of you, thanks for your work :) --Khruner (talk) 14:12, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

A question for you about the praenomen @Nephiliskos: in place of the Niswt-Bity glyphs, I sometimes met a Netjer-Nefer ("good god"). I noticed that it happens more often during the Second Intermediate Period, for example just look of this lintel of Sekhemre-Sewadjtawy. Do you know why it happens? --Khruner (talk) 14:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

As far as I know, since the fourth dynasty the pharaoh was seen and worshipped as a living god. King Khufu is known to be the first ruler to have jused the title nfr-ntr. A very similar title is a'a-ntr, the "great god". nfr-ntr was mostly placed at the end of a cartouche. Other titles, that were placed at the end of cartouche names include titles such as dj-ankh ("he who gives life"), nb-tawy ("lord of the two lands"), djet-tawy ("he endures for the two lands") and ma'a-chrw ("he is justified"). Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 18:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I see, in fact I sometimes also met many Neb-Tawy and other epithets. Thanks again; Khruner (talk) 20:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Menkauhor Kaiu Peer Review

Hello Khruner, I have just put up Menkauhor Kaiu at Peer Review to improve it before going to FAC (it is already GA), see here. Your input would be very much appreciated. Iry-Hor (talk) 11:30, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

@Iry-Hor: I'm not sure if I have to write in the linked archive, so I will write here. Good work as usual, practice gathered making GA/FA Old Kingdom pharaohs surely makes perfect. I can suggest you to standardize the way you write the dynasties, as you have both "Fifth Dynasty" and "18th Dynasty". Another thing is about the ownership of the Headless Pyramid: scholars have spoken, but maybe it should be mentioned that the pyramid didn't provide any name of its owner and the attribution to Menkauhor was a consequence of its datation and exclusion of the others 5th Dynasty rulers (but maybe I am wrong here!) --Khruner (talk) 13:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Request

Hi there. I just expanded Peter and Anneli's Journey to the Moon, a rare German fairy tale I loved as a lil' chillun. I'd like to ask you to keep an eye on my work. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 23:46, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Nephiliskos: I'll try, although on this day I have little time to stay on wikipedia. BTW, I noticed three disambiguation links which are difficult to interpret for one who, like me, don't know the tale. The links are morning star, evening star (for me, two epithets for planet Venus) and june bug (more difficult, only possibly to be identified with the European chafer). --Khruner (talk) 08:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your advise, I have worked on the article. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 20:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Osorkon IV DYK Statistic

I didn't know until I was going through my archive just now, but the article got 6747 views during it's slot on May 29, 2015. I've added it to the list of most view for May 2015 here.  — Calvin999 11:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

@Calvin999: I didn't know either, quite amusing, thanks for the notification! --Khruner (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Senedj

I have edited and updated this article and I'm curious to your opinion. ;) Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 11:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello Nephiliskos, It is possible that I never heard of this pharaoh before, but well done as usual! Khruner (talk) 23:16, 17 August 2015 (UTC)