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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dolpo Tulku Rinpoche (July 18)
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Hello! Kalsangdrolma,
I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dat GuyTalkContribs 10:54, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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Welcome!
[edit]Hello, Kalsangdrolma, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
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Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or , and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! JohnCD (talk) 16:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Copyright, notability, autobiography
[edit]Wikipedia cannot hold copyright material, not even in sandboxes or draft pages, not even temporarily. Assertion of permission to use text is not enough; we have to be certain that the person giving a release has the authority to do so, and that the actual copyright holder understands and agrees to Wikipedia's license terms, which allow any reader to copy, modify and re-use material for any purpose including commercial. For those reasons, a formal copyright release from the actual copyright holder is required, as described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
However, this text would not be suitable as it stands. Wikipedia is not another social-networking site site like Vimeo or Facebook for people to tell the world about themselves. It is a project to build an encyclopedia, which is quite different, and writing about oneself is strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at Wikipedia:Autobiography.
As Dolpo Tulku Rinpoche's secretary you have, in writing about him, a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and should read that page and the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.
Wikipedia has an inclusion test called Wikipedia:Notability which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought him significant or important enough to write substantial comment about? See also Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Notability (summary). Independent references are also necessary so that an article can be written which is not just the subject's story about himself but an independent, outside view. There is excellent advice from a very experienced user for people in your situation at User:Uncle G/On notability#Writing about subjects close to you:
"When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit. If you don't have such sources, don't write."
If you want to continue, read WP:Your first article for advice, collect independent references to verify what the article says, and base a draft on them. You can use WP:Articles for creation to guide you through the process. Write in your own words; if you want to use any pre-existing text you will need to make a copyright release.
One important way in which Wikipedia differs from social-networking sites is that nobody "owns" a Wikipedia article, not its first author and certainly not its subject. If an article is accepted, others can and will edit it, and you will not be able to insist on your preferred version.
I am afraid you will think that all this is much more difficult than you expected, but if Wikipedia simply acted as a place for people to post their own profiles, it would be of no more use than Facebook. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
On the edit summary you wrote: "It is a mix of what he told me orally as his secretary and his work over the last few years. So there is no original source to cite." I'm sorry, but first-hand information like that is not acceptable: the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy is that "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources". The point of published is that a reader should, in principle, be able to check where Wikipedia's information comes from. Linked to that is the Wikipedia:No original research policy. The reason is that it is not the role of an encyclopedia to publish new material - its job is to summarise material already published elsewhere.
Sources like his Vimeo page would not count as reliable, because they have not been subject to any editorial control or fact-checking.
If you have no source to cite, then I am afraid that is an indication that Dolpo Tulku Rinpoche does not meet Wikipedia's notability test for inclusion, which asks for evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." How that relates to biographies is explained in more detail in WP:Notability (people).
Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:52, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Dolpo Tulku Rinpoche
[edit]Hello, Kalsangdrolma. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Dolpo Tulku Rinpoche".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. North America1000 14:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)