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McGill University Lead

You invited me to your Discussion page. In doing so, I expect you not to delete any of my Lead edits during these discussions, so that I do not delete yours, too.

Please keep in mind that we are both editors. Objectivity, where validated, is the cardinal rule here. You seem to insist that only the first degree awarded by McGill should be included in the Lead and that no other McGill "firsts" should be allowed. That is your personal opinion and subjective value judgment. There is no rule or precedent anywhere that says only the first degree or diploma should be included in the Lead. If you believe that the first degree is so important, I will accept that. But please be fair and objective by also accepting that the election of McGill's first university leader (principal), establishment of first school, appointment of first faculty,etc., are also equally important firsts in the history of a university and no doubt deserve to be in the Lead for the same reasons that you have in mind in putting in the first degree. Thank youKupal123 (talk) 23:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion this discussion should be happening at Talk:McGill University rather than on user talk. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to both of you. Someone made a request at WP:RFPP for full protection of McGill University to stop the war. I'm declining the request, but you should both be aware that blocks are possible if edit warring continues. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:03, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you EdJohnston. As I said on my own user page, I did not start the edit war but was simply responding to Jonahrapp constant deletion of my contributions while keeping his, and for no legitimate reason at all. On my part, I promise to cease and desist from further editing and to keep his edits there along with mine, until this matter is resolved in Talk:McGill University as you suggested and which is very well received with thanks.Kupal123 (talk) 03:51, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Your "contributions" are a risk to McGill University's GA status. You do not properly cite your sources, your punctuation is off, your edit is written with a snide attitude and it does not follow the guidelines of a Lead section. I have requested that the article be semi-protected. Do not say I reverted your edit "for no legitimate reason at all" when I have clearly stated here and on your talk page my reasoning. Magnolia677 even wrote that your edits have been unconstructive and disruptive, and stated that it would be removed, yet you continue to re-add it and revert my own corrections. Jonahrapp (talk) 04:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Let me make this clear Jonahrapp that your edit does not belong to the Lead. There is nothing in my edits that is not fully documented. Cite even one, since everything there is with appropriate references. Neither can you justify why your McGill "first" is better than my McGill "firsts." It is all your opinion. And neither did that other editor you cited ever say that you were correct in adding in your edits or removing mine. He just said to stop editing. Finally, as EdJohnston CLEARLY REMINDED YOU AND ME, WE (meaning. YOU AND I) CAN BOTH BE BLOCKED IF WE BOTH KEEP DELETING EACH OTHER'S EDITS. I hope that is clear to you.Kupal123 (talk) 04:38, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

If you would simply look at the guidelines for a Lead section (Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section, you would see how your edit is flawed. Please revert your own edit to the one I left, which is how the article has been for months. Not even my own devising. No need to get so angry. Listing 8 seemingly random "firsts" and writing that the University, "like any other university," had many "firsts" certainly does not follow the guidelines for a Lead. Also, just because other WP articles use a URL with no author, date, accessdate, publisher etc. doesn't mean it is the correct way to cite sources on Wikipedia. McGill University is an important institution and should have a high quality article, so have some respect.Jonahrapp (talk) 05:23, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I have come to fully memorized the guidelines for a Lead section Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section over the years, and find that it is your edit that is totally flawed. Nowhere do the guidelines say that you should add the first degree awarded by a university in the Lead, correct? And nowhere does it say that other "firsts" in a university history are banned or improper, correct? It is all in your imagination. URL have been used as references in many other WP articles, including those articles on universities that are more prestigious than McGill, and using URLs does not depart from the undeniable fact that they are valid references. You are just nitpicking on trivial, presentation style. And just because you do not like using URLs does not in any way imply that the references are invalid or in your own subjective words "improper." There will be no more reverts and further edits at this time. You saw the last editor warn you to desist from any further changes to the Lead unless you want to be blocked.Kupal123 (talk) 07:50, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

As has been mentioned, this discussion should be moved to the article's talk page to gain input from a broader community of editors. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:18, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Other's comment removed?

Hello Jonahrapp. What's with this removal? EdJohnston (talk) 01:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi EdJohnston, I removed it as it appears the user wrote it in two separate sections on the McGill talk page, and I had responded to the first instance of their usage of it, in the section above which it actually pertained to. I can undo it if you'd like, but I don't see a reason as I had no intention of responding to it. Thank you. Jonahrapp (talk) 01:35, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of McGill School of Architecture

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Awesome! Thank you, Reidgreg. I will try to be as available as possible over the week. Jonahrapp (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid that I'll be taking you up on that – I think the article needs a fair amount of work, but if you have a lot of time on your hands you might be able to get it done in a week. More on the review page. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:34, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of McGill School of Architecture

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McGill Lead on Acceptance Rates

Hey I was wondering why my contributions were deleted and how to fix this? I thought it was fairly relevant information as most other university pages have this. Thanks. 26 April 2020. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwardmayfield (talk • contribs) 00:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey, Edwardmayfield. I didn't delete your contributions, I simply moved them around within the Lead for a more logical flow. Rather than writing "McGill is consistently ranked as one of the best international universities in the world" (and, btw, the source you included specified that it was one of the most international universities, not the best), at the beginning of the article (seemed a little out of place, and a bit fluffy), I moved this to the section of the Lead where rankings were already mentioned, and reworded to "McGill consistently ranks in the top 50 universities in the world". I also moved the information about acceptance rates to the middle of the paragraph instead of the end and properly attributed the sources for each statement in that paragraph, which did not seem to have been done before.

When adding information to the Lead, especially for a page like McGill's, you should first discuss these proposed edits in the article's Talk page, but I figured that the information you included belonged in the Lead so I didn't remove your edits, but rather rearranged them. Thanks! Jonahrapp (talk) 00:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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