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Archive links[edit]Citing[edit]Hello, John Cardinal. You have new messages at Rannpháirtí anaithnid's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Great minds ...[edit]I have been thinking along similar lines as you for some time. A year or two ago I studied the citation methods in use and came up with WP:Verification methods, which is very similar to your essay, although I chose not to actually rank them as you have. My career in Wikipedia is kind of winding down at this point, but I'm watching with interest about where your efforts will lead. ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi John, yes it is true that some early computer enthusiasts played this song on their computer, but the point is, the section does not establish that this is notable -- it's just a performance (one of thousands probably) of the song. The paragraph goes into technical detail that is far beyond the interest of the typical WP reader. Certainly, my reaction (and, I imagine, would be the reaction of many others) on reading the paragraph was "What the heck...?". Are you sure the section has merit for this article? Cheers, Wrapped in Grey (talk) 07:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh my God John, this discography is so messed up! How did we let this happen? UK is supposed to be listed first, before USA or anything else! This is going to take a lot of time to clean up. Best, --Discographer (talk) 23:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I Saw Her Standing There[edit]John, I understand what you mean, but I think the problem in the article is in the Lewishohn citation. I didn't put the citation in the article; it was already there. But, I just looked at page 9 of Lewisohn, and there is nothing there that mentions the count-in at all. (The page merely refers to why McCartney wrote the song.) Perhaps the entire sentence (and reference to Lewisohn should come out, and instead the paragraph should be something like this:
I would have cited the CD single, but you mention before that phonographic records should not be cited. Instead, I mentioned it in the text. What do you think? Best, Ernie Ernie Scribner (talk) 00:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Enhancement of Cite.php[edit]As you expressed an interested in the enhancement to Cite.php that I proposed, I would be grateful if you could take a look at a demonstration of the enhancement here. If you are positive about it, I will post notice of the demonstration on the Cent discussion page. Thanks, --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 00:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC) Ringo Starr[edit]Hi there, just wondering why you reverted my edit to Ringo Starr's article? There are confirmed sightings of Ringo around Colchester and it has made local news. Thanks, Jed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedmiller (talk • contribs) 14:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Extra tracklisting album type[edit]Hi John, I noticed that you have made amendments to the infoboxes on several Strawbs singles recently. You have set the "type" label to "single" in the extra tracklisting template - may I ask why you have done this? The albums in question were studio albums not single compilations. Also look at the examples from the template:extra tracklisting page, notably Smells Like Teen Spirit. You can reply here as I'm temporarily watching this page. Best Witchwooder (talk) 08:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
MUSTARD[edit]Hi. I've seen your edits, cleaning up the formatting etc., which have been very good, however I'm concerned about your removal of the links from the Music project page (which I thought were useful) and also the re-direct from the 'See also' section, making the cross-referencing no longer visible. Can we talk about these changes? Thank you. --Kleinzach 23:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi John - I am seeking guidance here because you are the one Beatles expert I know of on Wikipedia... (we interacted a while back re "Only a Northern Song" and whatnot) Anyway - do you know anything about this Tin-Tan/Ringo/Sgt. Pepper story? What I put in the relevant Talk page itself is basically the truth as far as I can divine it - i.e., there is not very much here to substantiate the persistent Tin-Tan claims. To your knowledge, is there any better information to substantiate (or refute) this story? --DaveG12345 (talk) 02:03, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Rating[edit]Ideally, yes, but I know where the bounds of my competence lie :-) I'm never very comfortable distinguishing between the start/C grades - which most projects use - and as such I don't really want to start saying confidently this is X, this is Y, especially in articles where I'm not familiar with the quirks of the relevant project's rating standards. On the other hand, an article being or not being a stub is a pretty clear-cut decision - it's a universal standard, more or less. It does make the destubbing a bit less helpful than it might otherwise be, I agree, but I think it's still helpful to some degree - it's a rating that's clearly out of date, and better it be removed than we have a misleading idea of what our overall quality is. Shimgray | talk | 19:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC) Hi John, I'm surprised you didn't catch that (personnel arrangement)! I took care of it though. Best, --Discographer (talk) 00:02, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Reverted Edits[edit]I thought I should give you a heads up, but User:J miester25 has reverted your AWB edits, mostly related to Killing Joke articles. I didn't know if I should've reverted his edits back to yours or not since I have no knowledge on infoboxes.--猛禽22 •• 07:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Help! Tell Me What You See[edit]I've seen you deleted my edit on the Tell Me What You See lead vocals. In the 2009 CD booklet you can read lead vocals by John and Paul. And if you listen to the song you can hear Lennon singing all the song. I think you're wrong when you say it's only McCartney in the lead vocals. Same issue on Drive My Car. --Danyaddita (talk) 12:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi John, can I ask a favour? I’ve been doing a bit of work on this article, and have been really struggling with the old referencing system. I would much prefer to be using your alternative model, as I find it simpler (a real bonus for someone like me!) and lighter on its feet. Would you be able to do that for me when you have the time? Cheers. --Patthedog (talk) 17:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
How good is your memory?[edit]Hello, John Cardinal. You have new messages at Gracefool's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Short footnotes for Presley[edit]Saw your exchange with PL. If you're ready to take it on, go for it. I've wrapped up work unless and until something comes up in the new FAC, and anything that does can wait till you've gone through it. DocKino (talk) 00:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Deprecated templates[edit]Thank you If you want to convert {{tl|TLS-H}, that would be nice. I don't have the patience. {{Mapit-US-cityscale}} needs to be converted to {{coord}} before deletion. I know that if you simply convert every instance of "Mapit-US-cityscale" into "Coord" the template will work, but it will miss a little bit of information (e.g. listing that a city is in the United States.) That one is probably pretty straight-forward, but I'm concerned that I will screw it up. Thanks yourself for all of your assistance. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
1,2,3,FOUR[edit]I've challenged this on Grundle2600's talk page, as I don't think it improves the article. --Patthedog (talk) 14:53, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
The Beatles and every thing else[edit]Hi, John... Being quite possibly as Wikipedia's greatest editor of all-time, feel absolutely free to do whatever you wish to The Beatles discography or anything else at that matter, to anything you feel like. I personally have to admit, you truly are the best! LOL. Best, --Discographer (talk) 03:59, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
That seems to be a massive undertaking. While there are still independent recording companies, the "big four" dominate the industry and all of them took the catalogues of both still active as well as defunct record labels. Universal Music Group has its own page giving its history from now going back to its oldest label founded in 1898. That page is at [ http://new.umusic.com/history.aspx]. Steelbeard1 (talk) 03:33, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
The Warner Music Group timeline is found at http://mobile.wmg.com/wmglinks?page=aboutwmg&subpage=timeline Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Just one to go now. The EMI timeline is at http://www.emigroup.com/About/History/timeline.htm so now comes the tough part which is finding the Sony Music timeline. How about Record companies timeline? Steelbeard1 (talk) 23:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC) A Sony Music timeline has been discovered at http://www.dipity.com/legacyrecordings/SONY_BMG_Music_Entertainment_history Steelbeard1 (talk) 23:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Reference sequence[edit]Actually according to this Harvard style guide, the cites in question would fall into the category "Web page with corporate or organisational author" (see pg 8 in the guide). They are ref-named by website and alphabetized in the bibliography by website. While this is an Australian guide, I would think others would show the same consistency between ref-naming and alphabetization basis. Ideally, of course, our bibliography template would allow us to place the website name before the article name in such cases, but it doesn't seem that's technically possible. Best, DocKino (talk) 20:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC) Please Please Me[edit]You edit to Please Please Me didn't work. There is an error with the referencing apparently. The Rolling Stone page is still the same as before and it doesn't contain the exact words in the "quotation marks". McLerristarr (talk) 04:16, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject_Albums[edit]According to the WikiProject_Albums page, the "see WikiProject_Albums" comment thing is meant to be placed at the start of the article. I put it on Please Please Me then you removed it. I think it's meant to be there so people read how to make an album article before changing or re-arranging something that was already correct. McLerristarr (talk) 04:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
HTML comments cause problems for "Inside templates" rules[edit]We need your comment in Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#HTML_comments_cause_problems_for_.22Inside_templates.22_rules. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:46, 11 February 2010 (UTC) Vandal at George Harrison[edit]It is not a content dispute! He's deliberately adding factually incorrect content, and the refs he's providing contradict the content he's added. Thanks for keeping an eye, but let's call it what it is! Radiopathy •talk• 02:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC) ...and he's already been reported at WP:AIV, who also said it was a content dispute~ Anyone who reads my note on his talk page and takes a close look at his refs will see that it's deliberate. Radiopathy •talk• 02:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
ANI notice[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Reset 1rr restriction for user Radiopathy. Thank you.— Dædαlus Contribs 09:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC) HTML comments cause problems for "Inside templates" rules[edit]Any comments to Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs##HTML_comments_cause_problems_for_.22Inside_templates.22_rules? --Magioladitis (talk) 09:34, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Final discussion for Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people[edit]Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:
Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip 02:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC) Re: Mapit-US-cityscale[edit]I did not know that Plastikspork was adding infoboxes to the other articles, so I had been trying to clear out many of the remaining articles with Mapit-US-cityscale before it was deleted. As far as adding the infoboxes goes, I'm not sure what a better way to go about doing that would be, but there's many pages out there without Mapit-US-cityscale which need infoboxes; in addition to the ones I converted, many such pages were converted long before Mapit-US-cityscale became deprecated. For the time being, I'll focus on removing Mapit-US-cityscale from articles that aren't communities in Category:Geolinks maintenance (which there's plenty of) and let you and Plastikspork work out a solution for the rest. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 02:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC) Reply[edit]Just a heads-up I amended my post at Template_talk:Infobox_song#Removing_fields to include these edits. This probably doesn't require a response from you, but I figured you should know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC) Talkback[edit]Hello, John Cardinal. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Most_convenient_way_to_compare_sandbox_to_production.3F.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. (I made a scriptlet...)ManishEarthTalk • Stalk 03:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC) "Responsble" vs writer/co-writer.[edit]This is straight from the Guinness press release announcing McCartney's entry in the book:
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2008/09/080916.aspx Guinness uses written/co-written versus "responsible", as I suggested. GabeMc (talk) 02:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Objectivity[edit]John look at Paul's article objectively, and check the source for his 32 us hits, it's a 23 minute BBC interview, with no confirmation WHATSOEVER of 32 US hits. Also, you say his 32 hits were cited below and you took the time to revert my edit, but you didn't bother to check. Not if the fact in question is the same as below, which it isn't, below it says 29 US #1s, or if the source is valid, which it isn't, it has the invalid source mentioned above. Here is the citation that you used to revert my edits, tell me I was wrong, the same citation for Paul's 32 US #1s. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/4414102.stm All I added was "citation needed". BTW, I saw Paul at that show in Denver, he rocked hard! Amazing to do Helter Skelter in your encore, and nail it! GabeMc (talk) 02:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
So you start Paul's tally at 21? GabeMc (talk) 04:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC) For You Blue[edit]The song is credited to Harrison, in what world do you live in that gives Paul "responsibility" for one of George's songs? GabeMc (talk) 20:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC) Do you OWN the Paul McCartney page?[edit]Cause you are acting like all edits have to be approved by you. GabeMc (talk) 21:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
What about Elton's cover of "Lucy"? HotCop2 pointed out, that Elton John had a Hot 100 #1 with his cover of "Lucy" with Lennon on guitar and background vocals, which I suppose gives another to both Lennon and McCartney, so 32 #1s looks correct for Paul. GabeMc (talk) 02:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC) Truce?[edit]I am really sorry, you made a lot of effort to help me, and I re-paid that favor by being "belligerent, provocative and personal", I will work on it, I promise. Thanks again for the help you gave me, and if you ever want to give me any tips again (I don't blame you if you don't), please do so, I would appreciate it. GabeMc (talk) 20:50, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Switch to vcite with sfn?[edit]You probably noticed during the Presley FAC that Eubulides brought a performance improvement by replacing the {{cite web}} etc. templates with the newer and more efficient {{vcite web}} etc. He's suggesting we do the same for The Beatles. It seems good to me, but I'd like make sure you don't have any concerns. Your input to the discussion would be appreciated. PL290 (talk) 09:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC) FAR: Real Love (John Lennon song)[edit]I have nominated Real Love (John Lennon song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --Plotfeat (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC) AWB task[edit]If you are looking for an easy AWB task, see here, if someone hasn't done it already. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AfD nomination of Revolution 9[edit]Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Revolution 9. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC) As one of the significant contributors to the Chuck Berry article you might be interested that I have nominated it to be listed as a WP:Good article. There is often a delay between nominating and somebody being free to review an article; however, you may wish to keep an eye on it to see how the review progresses and perhaps help out on any issues if you feel you are able. SilkTork *YES! 10:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Your essay[edit]I just wanted to let you know that I added a bit of minor punctuation to your essay. I hope I didn't infringe.Mk5384 (talk) 22:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC) Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Album types[edit]Hi, John! John, you've only made one edit since last March, I really would like for you to return back and make more edits again, as your edits prove extremely quite valuable. Also, honestly, I miss working with you and want you to come back! I would like to ask might you vote on this issue concerning the peak position of The Beatles song "Something", please? Even if you don't vote on this, please come back again! The "Red" and "Blue" albums will be re-released soon. Thanks! Your friend, --Discographer (talk) 21:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC) Link rot[edit]Can you please tell me how to convert the bare urls on Alexander McQueen (brand) without having to through them one by one?Reqluce (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image File:JohnLennonImaginePostcard.jpg[edit]If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk 06:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC) RFC courtesy notice - succession boxes[edit]As someone who has taken part in previous discussions regarding the use of succession boxes in articles for songs and albums, I'd like to notify you of a request for comment that is taking place at WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. It would be nice to finally come to a resolution on this. If you have already participated in this RFC or do not wish to participate, then please disregard this notice. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 01:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC) Thanks for essay[edit]Thanks for the essay on citation method comparisons. I was struggling with figuring out how to use sfn and un-bylined newspaper articles, and you answered the question directly. LaurentianShield (talk) 16:46, 28 February 2013 (UTC) A Tesla Roadster for you![edit]
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- ^ MacDonald 2005, p. 68.