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Your submission at Articles for creation: German Design Council (December 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Catrìona was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Most of the sources appear to have a close connection with the subject. Please replace with independent sources so that notability can be assessed.

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Catrìona (talk) 17:21, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JohKauz! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Catrìona (talk) 17:21, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: German Design Council (March 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Liance was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

More references and coverage needed to establish notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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-Liance^{talk/contribs} 03:34, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: German Design Council (September 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Worldbruce was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Betts' book, the entry in A Dictionary of Modern Design, and the two journal articles in further reading are together enough to demonstrate notability.

The quality of the sources is better than in the first drafts, but it still cites mostly poorer sources:

Global Design Network, whose capsule description was supplied by the organization
the organization's website
a bunch of primary source press reports, all of which merely name the recipient of an award without discussing the history of the award or the organization giving it in any depth; also Horizont, Markenartikel, and Munich Startup are trade publications, so they don't help demonstrate notability
Günter Kupetz's book, which lacks independence because he's the father of the organization's head, Andrej Kupetz, who is also the book's editor

Throw away Global Design Network and all or most of the sources in the awards section. Keep Die Welt and Westfalen Blatt only if they're the sole source for something essential. The organization's website and Kupetz's book may be used for uncontroversial material.

It is not enough to change the sources while leaving the text of the draft unchanged. The text was based on the original, non-independent sources, which is probably the main reason it reads like an advertisement. The draft must be rewritten so that it's based mainly on what the independent sources (Betts' book and the further reading) say about the subject.

Mission statements are generally regarded as promotional. Instead of a "Mission" section, briefly describe in the "History" section their stated goals at their founding. Then include an "Activities" section that shows what they do. Actions speak louder than the words of a mission statement.

The activities section should summarize those for which they are best known (as demonstrated by independent reliable sources). The Ideal House that they sponsored at imm Cologne for many years might be an example. Include in this section the awards they present (putting them in an "Awards" sections is confusing because Wikipedia uses such sections for awards won by the organization). They give a very large number of awards, so be explicit about your selection criteria. You might limit it to ones with a history of more than a few years. What is the nature of the awards? Money, or just promotion? Clarify the distinction between Designpreis der Bundesrepublik Deutschland and Designpreis Deutschland, which according to The New York Times, caused "a rumpus in Germany" when introduced in summer 2011 because of the similarity of names.

They seem to be well known for their library, so that should be covered too. It might be most suitable in the history section, or it could be treated as an activity in the sense that they continually acquire materials and make their collection available to researchers. They've published a number of books. If the number is small, they can be enumerated. If it's large, then list a selection, using objective criteria such as the number of libraries that hold the title or the number of times it has been cited. Ideally, the article would also include sections on the financing of the organization and on its leadership, but it need not be that well-rounded to be accepted for publication.

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Worldbruce (talk) 17:51, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: German Design Council has been accepted

German Design Council, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Andy Dingley (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]