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Request to participate in University of Washington survey based on ideas gathered during the Wikipedia focus group you attended

Hello again! As we mentioned when you attended our focus group back in April, our goal was to use your feedback to help design an embedded application that could quickly communicate useful information about other Wikipedians. We have now created a few images that we feel represent some of what you thought was important. We would appreciate it if you took a few minutes of your time to complete an online survey that investigates whether or not these images would be useful to you.

To take the survey, click this link.

Please feel free to share the link with other Wikipedians. The more feedback, the better! The survey is completely anonymous and takes less than 10 minutes to complete. All data is used for university research purposes only.

Even if you are unable or unwilling to take this survey, we want to thank you for attending our focus group. Your generous contribution of your time and ideas was greatly appreciated! Commprac01 (talk) 21:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

Hi! I have found your following question: "Is there a relevant distinction between the Crown of the Polish Kingdom and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?" Of course it is. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów, the Republic of the Two Nations) was created as a single state, by an union of Crown of the Polish Kingdom and Grand Duchy of Lithuania in 1569 (Union of Lublin), and existed formally until 1791 (Constitution of May 3, 1791), and as the First Republic of Poland (Rzeczpospolita Polska) from 1791 to 1795. Similarly, Austria-Hungary, the Dual Monarchy existed since 1867 until 1918. - Warm regards, Mibelz (talk) 15:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Fascism

I am contacting you because you commented on this topic a while ago.

Following a recent RfC, there is currently a proposal regarding the issue of whether or not it is appropriate to characterise fascism as "right-wing".

Even if you don't have much to say, it would be useful if you could let your view be known in order to help guide the discussion towards some sort of conclusion.

Please take a look: here.

Thank you. --FormerIP (talk) 23:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Rainier Club

You have done work on the National Register of Historic Places in King County list and saw the Rainier Club article in the Seattle Times today (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009366972_rainierclub22m.html). It looks like it is not on the national list but is on the state list. It may need to be removed from the list at National Register of Historic Places listings in King County, Washington (unless I am reading it wrong) but at least there is an easy source to create an article off of. Wanted to run it by you before deleting anything since it looks like you have researched it far more than I have. If I was to start an article for it, would you suggest doing it for the club itself or the building? As a side note, the image you uploaded of Qwest Field during construction (File:Qwest Field (Seahawks Stadium) under construction - 2001.jpg) is awesome.Cptnono (talk) 05:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The article you cite does not say it is not on the National Register. It does say it is not considered "nationally significant". Places can be on the National Register without being listed as "nationally significant". See http://www.nps.gov/history/NR/publications/bulletins/nrb15/nrb15_5.htm. According to http://www.preservationnation.org/take-action/advocacy-center/lobby-day/sample-documents/projects/Rainier-Club.pdf, the Rainier Club is on the National Register, but listed only as being of "state significance." - Jmabel | Talk 16:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sweet. Thanks for clearing that up.Cptnono (talk) 20:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Apartment buildings in Berlin

Hi, I have reverted the categories as you have suggested (referring to User_talk:Beek100)

ps I wonder if Tenment Houses might be better than Buildings

--AnRo0002 (talk) 20:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I know how the word "tenement" is used in the U.S.—it's a pretty specific type of apartment building—but I'm not sure how international that usage is. - Jmabel | Talk 04:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Fujitaro Kubota

I've pulled together the beginnings of a stub article about Fujitaro Kubota. As you may know, the information which is available on the internet is sparse. I wonder if you might have access to relevant material which is otherwise unavailable to me.

In any case, I wonder if a gallery of Kubota Garden photos might be appropriate at the bottom of this article which focuses on the gardener rather than the garden. In part, this notion was inspired by the images you captured showing kanji inscribed in stone. Does this seem like a good idea ... or is it perhaps too much of a stretch ...?

What do you think? --Tenmei (talk) 23:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

No strong opinion on the value of a gallery: it's easy enough to find the one on the Commons. I don't have any special access to any material on him, but you might contact the Kubota Garden Foundation. The Seattle Department of Parks and Recreation would probably give you some help, too, if you ask. (I just looked, and these are precisely what you've already linked!) - Jmabel | Talk 23:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:JoeMabel1.jpg

File Copyright problem

Thanks for uploading File:JoeMabel1.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 02:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 02:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

You need to say something like "Source: Joe Mabel" as well as indicating yourself as author,

It would also be highly advisable to file a release with the permission queue at OTRS (see WP:COPYREQ, In terms of moving the image to commons, that can happen once a {{information}} box exists for the image. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I will do what you ask, but what is going to happen to images like this uploaded in that era - before we had any of these templates - by people who are no longer active on Wikipedia? It seems to me that the rights situation for this was already entirely clear, just not expressed the way we now express it. - Jmabel | Talk 16:54, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

This is indeed a valid issue, I suggest you raise that one in an appropriate forum on the wiki, orphaned works aren't just a problem for Wikipedia. :( Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found a large number concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Julius and Ethel Rosenberg/GA1. Consequently I have de-listed the article. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Unless I am mistaken, I was not a major participant in that article, just dealing with some factual issues about what is and is not known about their complicity (or otherwise) in the acts with which they were charged. - Jmabel | Talk 06:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Minstrel show

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found a large number of concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Minstrel show/GA1. I have de-listed the article. This decision may be challenged at WP:GAR. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Abraham Goldfaden

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Abraham Goldfaden/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Xueta

Hello! It appears that this article has been greatly expanded and sourced on the Catalan wiki. Would you be interesting in working together again to translate the new material and import it into the English article? I'm going to be rather slow in upcoming months due to external factors, so there's no great pressure to be getting it done by any certain date. -Yupik (talk) 08:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure, especially at a leisurely pace. Is the new Catalan material decently sourced? - Jmabel | Talk 15:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You are very welcome to join Wikipedia:WikiProject TRANSWIKI/Catalan!! We need Catalan speakers/ Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 20:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the sources, but I figured once the U of Helsinki gets done schlepping their collections around town, I'll go see how many of them I can find to check on. I'll get back to you once I've compared the English and Catalan versions to see what needs to be done. -Yupik (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Documentary plays

support for FA on German Unification

Last month German Unification was not promoted to FA because, apparently, not enough people had taken the time to read and comment. If I nominate it again, will you read it (it's lengthy) and comment? Auntieruth55 (talk) 16:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Ping me when it is nominated. - Jmabel | Talk 17:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

PING! :) I've renominated the Unification of Germany article. There is some documentation and rationale for things on the talk page. I think we're reasonably good on it. I'd appreciate your support. Auntieruth55 (talk) 14:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks JM and thanks for your comments on the older scholarship. I tried to be fair. Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Need identification of a deity

Regarding this discussion, I think Redtigerxyz is correct. It's a photograph of Green Tara, although the two photos you provide don't make identification as easy as it could be, because you can tell right away with a full frontal shot. In any case, she's wearing the five-leaved crown on her head, and the blue lotus appears next to her, and the mudra is correct. If you go on to Google and look at the images of Green Tara and then peruse the descriptions, you'll see that it's a match. Viriditas (talk) 10:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! - Jmabel | Talk 15:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The Leopard

Hi there,

could you perhaps explain what is meant by "If we want things to stay as they are, things will have to change"? I haven't read the book. Does it mean something like 'if we want to stay in power, we must handle things differently/we must do so differently'? Thanks Mallerd (talk) 18:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Essentially, yes. Among other things, if the aristocracy are to retain power and wealth, then they must adapt to the times. - Jmabel | Talk 01:43, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Grazie mille Mallerd (talk) 18:40, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Dockton, Washington

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BorgQueen (talk) 04:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. That's 80 DYKs. - Jmabel | Talk 06:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Went back, recounted, looks like it's only 78 (plus three other people's I nominated). - Jmabel | Talk 00:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jefferson Davis (revenue cutter)

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Gatoclass (talk) 15:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC) 20:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

81. - Jmabel | Talk 00:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Went back, recounted, looks like it's only 79 (plus three other people's I nominated). - Jmabel | Talk 00:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Avner the Eccentric

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{{User0|LargoLarry 04:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

82 DYKs (possibly more, because when I started on Wikipedia, no one was keeping track of this sort of thing). - Jmabel | Talk 04:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Went back, recounted, looks like it's only 80 (plus three other people's I nominated). - Jmabel | Talk 00:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:Pinski-Tailor.jpg

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Portal:Gang

I noticed that you been editing the Gang article . I just created a Portal (Portal:Gang) I need your help. If you have time, Can you help add some content to my portal. I would appreciate it, Thanks.--Zink Dawg -- 06:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Elijah Wald

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BorgQueen (talk) 04:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Negoiţescu

You mean that in a good way? :) Dahn (talk) 01:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes. - Jmabel | Talk 01:58, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I did notice the Furth article as it was just above my DYK entry, and may I say it's very cool (I personally would add a bit more exact data on citizenship[s] for historical context, but you're one of the few editors whose articles don't really need changes - they're good straight away, and this will always get my thumbs up). All in all, my article took about three months to write - bit by bit, with a big push these past days; yours probably involved more actual research, since stuff on Negoiţescu kept popping up wherever I looked, and at some point it became a question of "what to keep" (I generally went with sources that said most about most).

The one thing that still gets me enthusiastic about this stuff (which does grow boring and exhausting after a while) is that we get to have detailed coverage on the "conveniently forgotten" plurality of this country. And, if you'll allow me to say it, this is only because I'm standing on the shoulders of giants, of whom you're one - your Romanian-themed contributions have always been inspiring (from early on, when they showed me that there was something else to do in this area other than wage an information war on all of Romania's "enemies"). Dahn (talk) 02:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, I mostly try to write worthwhile articles instead of getting drawn into stupid fights. I didn't really find anything about when Furth became a citizen—good question. I don't want to overstate my research: I'd run across several separate good sources on him, was amazed we had no article at all, and when I read the Speidel book recently, which is not at all synoptic about his life but in which he is clearly one of Speidel's major heroes, I decided it was time to write this. I am approaching having 3 meters of bookshelf filled with books about Seattle history. I think that on this topic my living room now beats most branches of the Seattle Public Library (although getting nowhere near the Central Branch, which has a "Seattle Room" larger than my house, crammed with books, pictures, and documents. It also helps that pretty much all of the early histories, which I can't really afford to buy, are now online. The killer is researching the 1930s and '40s, where the contemporary works are all still under copyright, and economic conditions meant printings were small.

Man, three months. I don't think I've put quite that much into an article in ages. Its funny that ours should pop up next to each other on DYK. - Jmabel | Talk 02:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I tried a "hands-on" approach to tweaking the lead and cats to reflect his nationality, ethnicity etc. I took the liberty of replacing the "People from Seattle" cat with a narrower one for his Council membership - but I'm not married to this format; you may believe it's warranted because Furth was important for Seattle not just as a Council member (and you'd obviously be right), but maybe that nuance would be better (and more directly) covered by including the article into this. I'll leave that to your decision. Btw, I added the "Naturalized" category only because I assume he must have been naturalized in order to run for political office.

The above does confirm that your research was much more laborious - mine was mainly "if I google the name and an x factor, where does it get me?" (well, that plus some from the piles of books forming on either side of my computer screen...). Then again, the public libraries I've had to deal with in my lifetime will probably never be as extensive or efficient as your average American one - for this and several other reasons, I chose to rely on sources available to me through other channels. For as much as I can relate to what you say about the '30s and '40s, only in Romania: I happen to own an extensive collection of Viaţa Românească, which I promised myself I'd use more of in the future. It at least gives us one half of the interwar "narrative" in what counts for Romania.

Yes, it was three months - but not back to back. I spent (wasted?) part of this time, or at least paused for, other stuff, such as taking murky photos of a rainy place. And yes, the DYK thing was a pleasant surprise (it would also be so cool if they ended up in the same pick of the day...). Dahn (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, how did all manage to miss this before the new account user fixed it? Dahn (talk) 02:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, dear. I hadn't looked at that article in years. I've pretty much stopped actively tracking a watchlist, because for a while I spent all of my Wikipedia time dealing with crap like that instead of doing any actual writing. - Jmabel | Talk 02:29, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I can relate to that. For one, the article is already lagging behind the updated standards, but to rework it would mean a large effort - and my own interest for going over stuff I once edited from top to bottom is declining at the moment. (I myself have literary thousands of articles on my watchlist, but many of them are either not edited much or no longer relevant to me.)

Speaking of the subject (and knowing that we spoke about it before), and since we're also discussing massive expansions - have you perchance seen what Ion Antonescu looks like now? I'd be happy if you were to glance over it and let me know what you think. I know, it's big - but my philosophy is better big than omitting on relevant details. Dahn (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I haven't looked at that one in ages, but I will. - Jmabel | Talk 16:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

BIG. I copyedited through about an eighth of it(!), made a few remarks on the talk page (all really about English-language subtleties), and I think I'll wait to see how people respond to that before I go much further. - Jmabel | Talk 18:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Great copyedits and suggestions, thank you. I just took to applying your suggestions, as I don't imagine there's anything controversial in them. Dahn (talk) 18:29, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jacob Furth

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JamieS93 15:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Temple De Hirsch

Very amusing discovery about Temple De Hirsch Sinai, only found when I was well into writing this: Jimi Hendrix played his first professional gig as a musician in the Temple De Hirsch basement. Now if only I could find something non-trivial written about the pre-merger Temple Sinai (in Bellevue). - Jmabel | Talk 08:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Temple De Hirsch Sinai

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Gatoclass 17:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

83 - Jmabel | Talk 18:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Bikur Cholim Machzikay Hadath

Reminder to self: at Talk:Bikur Cholim Machzikay Hadath I still don't have an answer to the sense in which this is the "oldest synagogue" in Seattle. - Jmabel | Talk 22:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Jmabel/scratch --> User:Jmabel/scratch

I've moved the family-tree snippet to User:Jmabel/scratch, since it looked like it was probably meant to be there. Hope this is OK. Pseudomonas_(talk) 16:41, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! Thanks! - Jmabel | Talk 16:43, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Noesis Cultural Society

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Weak claim of notability, no actual notability. Very limited Google hits by either the English or Romanian name. No Google News, Books or Scholar hits.

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DYK for Schwabacher Brothers

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— Jake Wartenberg 14:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Joshua Green (seaman and banker)

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— Jake Wartenberg 13:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! - Jmabel | Talk 17:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Sephardic Bikur Holim Congregation

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Bencherlite ^Talk 08:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Nathan Eckstein

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 10:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

1920 Seattle Kroll atlas

Seattle has scanned the entire atlas; search for Kroll 1920. --NE2 02:53, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Nice to have. - Jmabel | Talk 04:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Additional information

I saw the request section at the talk page of Wikiproject China. Sorry I didn't have time yesterday. Oh, ignorant of me. I found a lot about 天涯比隣. It's also a yojijyukugo and a phrase from a chinese poem by Wang Bo. Here is another translation. The Japanese reading is 'tengai-hirin.' As for 一視同仁, it's 'isshi-dōjin'. I looked up the phrase in some more dictionaries and they all said it was a quote from a book '原人' by Han Yu. See the last sentence, 是故聖人一視而同仁. So the writing is a combination of two Chinese phrases. And it's not unusual or strange that Chinese phrases can be found in Japan or at Japan-related places. See Kanbun. Think it's like you find Latin phrases in English speaking countries. If you want more information, ask me or someone in the Wikiproject China. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 06:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)