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Should Anumarana be merged with Sati (practice)?

Hi, Jethwarp! Thanks for proving to me through your excellent work that Anumarana should definitely have its own extended discussion, relative to Sati (practice). I was wondering how you stand versus to keep Anumarana as independent article, vs. being merged with Sati (practice). The thematics are extremely closely related conceptually, and my intitial view is that they therefore ought to be emerged. However, another closely related practice, Jauhar does have its own page (although that page is a wholly unsourced mess at the moment). Thus, it can be argued for that for the sake of not making Sati (practice) too big, it is perfectly in order to have a separate Anumarana article. Personally, I am unsure about the whole issue, and would value your opinion relative to merging.Arildnordby (talk) 18:36, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Arildnordby. I would prefer to keep it as a separate page considering the fact that the article size is big enough to warrant its own page. Further, anumarana practice pre-dates sati practice was banned before sati practice (sahamarana) also validates it's separate page. Also there are points like practice was not restricted to widows only for the reason for it separate article. The separate article on Anumarana is also valid as per WP:SPINOFF. There are certain infos which I wanted to expand in Anumarana article, whenever I will get time. I think it is perfect as it is today - with a small section of it on Sati practice page and link to main article, as you have done it. Great work done by you also on both Sati practice and Anumarana articles. Jethwarp (talk) 02:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are good at spelling out clearly those points in favour of keeping it separate (rather than being merged), points that were just floating about in my own neural mess. So, I agree, it is good enough for separate keep. :-)Arildnordby (talk) 16:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Asaram Bapu

Asaram Bapu has not been convicted as yet. The case is running in the court. Please remove the category Hindu Gurus with criminal convictions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cologo (talk • contribs) 07:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BLP and convictions

You added this controversial category to a BLP when the article does not offer anything to support its use: [1]. Second Quantization (talk) 23:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tagore family

Greetings Jethwarp, I suppose I am a member of the Genealogy WikiProject, though I admit that it has been quite a while since I've contributed much to Wikipedia. I am mostly a passive observer these days, though I will likely be adding a lot of geographic information over the next few months due to a project I am working on regarding local railroads.

Anyway, I agree mostly with your stance on this issue. Generally speaking, a genealogical family is comprised of male-line descendants of the founder, though sometimes a distaff branch is included for various reasons, usually involving an inheritance such as the case with Habsburg-Lorraine. I do not know enough about the context of your articles to help much in the actual dispute over who is or is not considered family. In some instances, I would considered spouses members if there is not some other better place for them. For example, (I am a European historian, BTW) I would probably add Stephen of England to a list of members of the House of Normandy even though it is through his mother, but I would not include his brother or father because they played no part in English politics.

Regarding your specific issues, I'd first ask yourself (and maybe the other person) why those specific individuals are being added despite not being literal descendants of the founder. Secondly, if you still find issue with it and are unable to resolve it with the author, I'd suggest bringing the issue up with administrators under the Wikipedia:OWN umbrella, since he clearly has stated his intent to defend his work and not work collaboratively. Regardless, stop the reversion war, think about motives, then try discussing the issue with the user first. If neither works, then elevate the dispute to the next level.
–Darius von Whaleyland, Great Khan of the Barbarian Horde 02:21, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for your opinion. Have a Good Day !! Jethwarp (talk) 02:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Jethwarp, I would say that being a spouse legitimately incorporates one into the Tagore family, especially if the point made by Whaleyland stands, that being that there is not some other better place for them. In other words, being married into the Tagore family is what gives them their notability. From a more genealogical standpoint, you are right in saying they are not genealogical descendants. However, the template headers themselves are not referring to genealogical descendants, but simply to members of each subsequent generation. If the template were to serve exclusively as a genealogical tool, it could be argued that blood were all that mattered here. As it does not, the spouses, in my opinion, deserve to be included alongside the rest as part of a "generation" of the Tagore family. Olliffe Φ Obscurity 12:51, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your opinion, too. That clears my confusion. Good day!!Jethwarp (talk) 14:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks to you that you makes Lalkhani Landlords pages. Good Job. Jschauhan2013 (talk) 09:47, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Dear Jethwarp, thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia, especially your creation of the article about the Multan Sun Temple]. You are making a difference here! Keep up the good work! With regards, Anupam^Talk 04:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for noticing and the barnstar. Jethwarp (talk) 08:51, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits at Hotgi Junction railway station

Your recent edits at Hotgi Junction railway station are much appreciated especially finding out the year of establishment of the station. Many thanks for your effort. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ)^(Support) 10:06, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks a lot for Barnstar.. :) -Nizil (talk) 21:05, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Something in this section is breaking the page

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WP:PERM Request

Hi Jethwarp. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
Rollback should never be used to edit war.
If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! — xaosflux ^Talk 20:18, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@User talk:Xaosflux .......Thanks! I will take care to use roll back with care. Jethwarp (talk) 02:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books

You can use http://reftag.appspot.com/ to create full citations for Google Books links. Thanks.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Skr15081997 (talk · contribs) thanks for being helpful and wish u a Happy Diwali!!! Jethwarp (talk) 14:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Same 2 u!--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:01, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Travancore

Hi Jethwarp, I have undid an edit you did stating 'there are no official titles are 1971' on 'Template:Travancore'. There was a recent judgement by Kerala High Court which stated "Though by the 26th amendment of the Constitution, Article 363 was repealed whereby the rights and privileges of the rulers of Indian States were taken away, still the name and title of the rulers remained as such and unaffected in so far as names and titles were not contemplated as rights or privileges under the repealed Articles 291 and 362 of the Constitution.. So it won't be inappropriate to include the list of Titular Maharajahs in the Template.

Here is the link to the news article which published judgement : ^[1] Thank You. --India142 (talk) 07:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ref

^ hanif, mahir. "'His Highness' isn't unconstitutional: Kerala high court". No. Kochi. THE TIMES OF INDIA. Retrieved 24 November 2014.

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar

Hi Jethwarp

I have watched your edits to the KGK page over the last two years, and have seen your edits, your reversions, your work.

I admire the way you have grown as a Wikiepdia editor since I first met you on here all those years ago! You deserve a reward for all your hard work, and those times when you must have thought everyone was against you.

Well done, you are a true Wikipedian :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 16:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Chaosdruid (talk · contribs).. Hey nice to hear from you after such a long time and thanks for your comments and Barnstar also. Long time....!! Wish you a Very Happy and prosperous 2015 !!! Cheers!!! Jethwarp (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Maghella for deletion

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Your contributed article, Gurjar Kshatriya Kadia

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Speedy deletion nomination of Vatalia

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Diary of Golden Days

Hi, who published the Diary of Golden Days book that you use in quite a few of your articles? - Sitush (talk) 21:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!! Dear Sitush, How are u? I hope u are keeping good health. I don't nowadays edit Wikipedia - like I once used to and have not used that diary for long - it must be lying somewhere in some boxes up in attic. As far as I remember it was printed at some H. C. Banerjee & Co (Press division) of Calcutta. Jethwarp (talk) 02:39, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unintentional archive?

You archived this query without replying. Given that the source is used a lot in some rather rambling articles, it really could do with a response. - Sitush (talk) 15:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Sitush - Hi, How are you? I did reply to you - may be you missed it - please see - [2]. and how are you doing friend - I hope you are keeping good health. I have been shifted couple of towns and couple of jobs - and sometimes feel like going away from Wikipedia - it really adds to your stress levels sometimes. Nice to hear from you after long time. Thanks! Jethwarp (talk)

My sincere apologies. I missed that completely and, like you, sometimes find the stress levels generated here to be crazy. I'll see if I can find out more about the book. Thanks for the info. - Sitush (talk) 00:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Greets!

Happy Holi!!!......Happy Holi!!!

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Happy editing,
-- Mahensingha _{(Talk) "Thanx n Regards"} 06:54, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kadia (community)

You should have asked for a review before moving Kadia (community) back into mainspace. It was truly appalling and I've had to delete all but one sentence + amend the one that survived. You've been here a long time, Jethwarp, and I frankly rather surprised at this poor sourcing. It does, however, give me a further sense that your efforts relating to the Kutch Gurjar Kshatriyas need the fine-tooth comb treatment, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 06:05, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ Dear Sitush, actually you are right - I wanted to consult you on this - actually What I had in back of my mind was that there are lot of communities in North India, who refer to themselves as Kadia and I wanted to build this page as a list or disambiguation page. I was infact going to ask you to look at it after I had finished. In any way - do you think is it possible to turn this page into a dab or list type page - for the people whom this subject is new. I had mentioned this to Nabla also when I asked to userfy the page [3]. I need your help in building this page - of course - if you feel it is worth it. I value your opinion and suggestions very highly. Pl let me know. Going off-wiki for some hours - as it is Sunday today - and have to go out with family. Thanks.! Jethwarp (talk) 09:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A dab page might work, with the article redirecting to it. - Sitush (talk) 09:13, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sitush: - okay...thanks. I think I will start working on that line. Still have one hour of free time. Please review after I have finished. Jethwarp (talk) 09:29, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] , mahir. "'His Highness' isn't unconstitutional: Kerala high court". No. Kochi. THE TIMES OF INDIA. Retrieved 24 November 2014.

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