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Hello, Jempcorp! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! —DoRD (talk) 19:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Your RfA

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May I suggest that you withdraw your request for adminship? You are not likely to gain support to be an admin, as you have no experience of working in either admin areas, or on the encyclopedia. You also have had no interaction with the community, so it is hard for the community to trust you with the admin tools, when they do not know you!

Your enthusiasm is applauded, but sometimes realism is more important - as in this case!

Can I also point out that your "hidden" comments on this page were inaccurate: firstly, this page was not protected (only an admin can protect a page); secondly, it was not "locked", as anyone can edit it; finally the mathematical section either was not copyrighted (in which case your statement is inaccurate), or if it was, then it needed to be removed as copyrighted materials cannot be placed on Wikipedia pages (including user pages) without permission having been obtained from the copyright owner - for which instructions can be found at WP:IOWN -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I have changed these problems. I am know trying to contribute to the community. Can you give me some suggestions? --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 16:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've closed your RFA per WP:NOTNOW as without any contributions to the mainspace this request had very, very little chance for success. While there are no hard and fast rules as to what edit count will be necessary for you to pass RFA, my suggestion would eb to wait at least 3 months, 3,000 edits, and 2,000 edits to articles before thinking about running again. (This is not a guarantee; I had around 56,000 edits when I passed RFA, though that is definitely on the high side! The lowest edit count I remember passing was Taleus' with 2,800.) Just settle into the business of building this encyclopaedia, and don't worry about adminship- it's not nearly as glamorous as it can appear to a newcomer- it is truly janitorial work. Courcelles (talk) 16:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add that you'll probably want to read WP:MOP (Yes, it actually is janitorial work!) and WP:GRFA to get a better idea of what is expected by the community and what being an admin entails. —DoRD (talk) 16:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature

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Hello. I noticed that your signature as it appears on your RfA page, whether intentional or not, does not meet the guidelines because it does not contain any links to your userspace. "Signatures must include at least one internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page." If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me. Cheers —DoRD (talk) 16:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I have changed my signature. --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 16:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the swift response. —DoRD (talk) 16:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help on editing

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HELP! I need to know how I edit articles. Actually, I need to know about what to put on them. What happens if I put the wrong thing? Or, I am not sure what I put is correct? --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 17:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a load of useful links at the top of the page. —DoRD (talk) 19:09, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} There is a link on the page My Parents Are Aliens that is now closed on the website. Am I allowed to remove it?. (Externel Links). --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 19:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure - be bold.  Chzz  ►  19:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
also, yes the site is now closed. On the page it says somewhere that they closed it down :( Sophie (Talk) 20:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free files in your user space

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Hey there Jempcorp, thank you for your contributions. I am a bot, alerting you that non-free files are not allowed in user or talk space. I removed some files I found on User:Jempcorp/Doctor Who. In the future, please refrain from adding fair-use files to your user-space drafts or your talk page.

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Thank you, -- DASHBot (talk) 05:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete TestPage

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{{helpme}} Is there a chance an Administrator could delete this page and the folder Secure from my account: User:Jempcorp/Secure/TestPage? Thank you. --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 05:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged for deletion per WP:CSD. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks -Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 05:50, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Minimum requirements for RfA

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{{helpme}} What are the minimum requirements to become an administrator? And what can an administrator do? I don't get that Guideline page... Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 14:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are no "Set" requirement to meet before man becomes an administrator, as administrators are elected based upon community agreement. In other words it is somewhat of a vote based system where other users judge the ability of another user to become a quality administrator. in general, we can say that an administrator candidate has a chance to receive adminship if he or she:
  • Has been consistently editing Wikipedia for around a year.
  • Has made several thousands of quality edits. Though i do note that the quality is paramount, as vandalism patrols tend to have huge editcounts.
  • Has demonstrated the need for administrator tools (Adminship is not a badge or award given to users for good work)
  • Has demonstrated that he or she understands Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and applies them correctly.
  • Has never been blocked for incivility, vandalism, edit warring or so on.
Again i would note that there are not requirements, but indications that a user may be supported by the community if he or she requests adminship. Not meeting these requirements doesn't mean a definitive no, and meeting them does not mean a definitive yes.
As for what an admin can do:
  • Delete pages - An administrator can delete any page on Wikipedia, and can view pages and edits that have been deleted or suppressed (Not visible to normal users)
  • Block users from editing - An administrator can block users, IP's or IP ranges from editing Wikipedia.
  • Protect pages from editing - An administrator can protect pages from being edited by other users or editors without an account.
An entire list is located Wikipedia:RIGHTS#Table here. Do note that administrators may only use their administrative powers if the respective policies allow them to do so, with some leniency. Any administrator who goes on a deletion or block spree that does not comply to the policies may soon find himself blocked or reported to WP:ANI. In severe or persistent cases the user may lose his adminship status altogether. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 15:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can an administrator protect there own user page / discussion / user space? -Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 15:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If there is vandalism on their own pages, then yes. However, talk pages are generally not protected, as often IPs need to contact you, and they can't do that if they are protected. Many admins have their user page (but not sub pages) semi-protected, so that only autoconfirmed editors can edit it. Remember that the user space is not your space - it is Wikipedia's! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Incidently, several editors have "RfA standards" - what they look for in a candidate. Mine is here (I don't think my expectations are too far away from what your average editor is looking for in a candidate!) - others can be found here. A person's standards are their guidelines - they may go against part of it in some cases, if the candidate particular stands out in one of the areas -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mainspace

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{{helpme}} What is a mainspace? When I first asked to be an administrator, I was opposed. They said I had no mainspace things. What are they? If you can see my records, have I got any? Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 16:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The only edits you have to "mainspace" are the two you made to the My Parents are Aliens page. Mainspace refers to the pages which make up the encyclopedia itself. All of your edits (apart from those two) are to User talk space (on this page); User space (to User:Jempcorp, User:Jempcorp/Sandbox, User:Jempcorp/InfoBox and User:Jempcorp/Doctor Who (incidently, you can't link from articles to the latter, it's not allowed!) and to the now-deleted User:Jempcorp/Secure/TestPage); Wikipedia space (to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Jempcorp); File space: (to File:Random person image.png and to the now-deleted File:Dwmovie2008.GIF).
The opposes you received which mentioned the mainspace are to do with the fact that you wanted to be an admin on Wikipedia, but have no experience of editing articles - which is what we are all here for! As Minimac said at your RfA Just reading the admin-policies is not the only way to get adminship. Contributing is key. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Incidently, your "records" can be seen at Special:Contributions/Jempcorp - or you can click on "my contributions" at the top of the page (you can't see the deleted contributions, only admins can see those). If you want to see someone else's contributions, then you can use their username on the end of the link like this: Special:Contributions/Phantomsteve - just type that into the "search" box, and it'll come up -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to say that you can read about all the different name spaces at Wikipedia:Main namespace -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:13, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you check the contributions again, you will find that I am improving! :) Editing some articles to remove links that are broken. The only problem I have, is editing an article for information. Half of the information is already on Wikipedia, and that means I have nothing to write :( Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 17:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for uploading File:Random person image.png. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. ww2censor (talk) 17:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 17:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stuck at the beginning section

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{{helpme}} I am stuck. All I have done to contribute to Wikipedia is removing links that do not work properly. Yes, that's good, but as others have said in my first RfA, "Contributing is key!" How??? I have NOTHING to edit. I click on Random Article and have a look, but I have nothing to write except looking at the Externel Links and fixing them. Help please! What else can I do to rise the possibilites of becoming an Administrator??? Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 16:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be going about things backwards. If you have no desire to contribute to Wikipedia, why do you have an account on Wikipedia at all, and why do you want to be an administrator? Algebraist 16:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You must be reading it a bit wrongly, I have a EXTREME desire to contribute, as I said, I don't know HOW. Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 16:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read the introduction to Wikipedia and the Wikipedia editing tutorial? That is the first place to start. After that, there are many, many different ways to contribute to Wikipedia. It depends on your interests. You can create articles that are requested, cleanup and maintain existing articles, add pictures that are requested, clean up vandalism on Wikipedia, join a WikiProject for a topic you're interested in, or help out in many other ways. If you know how specifically you'd like to contribute to Wikipedia, I or someone else can help you better to find what you're looking for. I also suggest you read Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia and see the list of tasks that need to be done at Wikipedia:Community portal/Opentask. Please let me know if there are any questions. Thanks! --Mysdaao talk 17:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Brighton Judo Club

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A tag has been placed on Brighton Judo Club requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. — Timneu22 · talk 17:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for deletion nomination of Brighton Judo Club

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I have nominated Brighton Judo Club, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton Judo Club. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trusted editor

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{{helpme}} Hello! I need help. Does anyone think that I would be any good at asking for the Autopatrolled right? I ask this because I want to know whether I can be trusted over here at Wikipedia. You see, I have always wanted to become an administrator, but having been declined per WP:NOTNOW, I seem confident of becoming one soon. I know I have been inactive, but I really don't know what to write, and I know there is help above, but I get stuck between deleting admins. I believe I should get the Autopatrolled right due to been trustworthy, as I would never write anything bad on Wikipedia, the best place of a wiki.

P.S>What do you think I should do now to become an administrator in the future? I feel I am ready because of the Admin Tools Wiki where I am now a bureaucrat and have helped revamp it like Wikipedia, with the red text box that shows a protected page when admins edit it etc... Please let me know what you think. I really want to become one, but too scared because they think I am not ready, yet Admin Tools Wiki proves them wrong — Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 06:43, 21 March 2011 (UTC).[reply]

That user right is only given if you have a need for it - ie, if you are creating lots of articles. It is only granted to users (in good standing) who have already created lots of articles (e.g. 50).
Considerations towards becoming an admin; Mostly: wait - it is not possible to pass RfA until you have several thousand good edits.
  • There is a lot of admin stuff you can do without being an admin for example:
Adminship is not a statement of worth or acceptance in the Wikipedia community. Some of the most valued and active editors have said they do not want to be administrators, and many administrators find that they prefer to contribute largely or solely by editing articles.
  • Administrator status is not a trophy. Administrator status does not place you in an elevated status within Wikipedia. Every good-faith editor, from the newest editor to the most experienced bureaucrat, has the same status within Wikipedia. You will not gain respect simply by being an administrator. Adminship is, in essence, janitorial duties for Wikipedia. (Hence the mop used to symbolise administratorship.)
  • If you make adminship your primary goal you are less likely to succeed, but rather if you make improving Wikipedia your goal then adminship shall come naturally.

 Chzz  ►  12:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Chzz! Yes, I have done some improvements and want to continue improving. Thanks for the reply! Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 15:55, 21 March 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Head of Reader Relations

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Hi Jempcorp:

To answer the question you left me, my role is to represent, on the Wikimedia Foundation staff, the voice and needs of the vast majority of the users of Wikimedia projects: the readers who rarely or never edit. However, in reality, I tend to also find myself working very closely with core editing members of our community, in hopes that we can leverage their instincts and talents to continue to iterate toward the healthiest community we can. Practically speaking, that means that I run a team of people who are closely focused on improving the experience for readers and new editors so that they have an easier time adapting to the Wikipedia/Wikimedia communities. The role has had me doing a number of things, including running the 2010-2011 annual fundraiser, but my first love is editing the wikis, and working with the community here. As with most other Foundation staff positions, my job description is public, and can be found at wmf:Job_Descriptions/Head_of_Reader_Relations. Hope that answers your question, but feel free to ask if not! Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:53, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply! I was actually wondering for a second where your comment had gone (I had not logged in, so didn't see the "New messages" notice)! I kind of get it. You basically improve reader's experience with Wikipedia, and also help the editor along with it. Thanks! Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 06:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Discussions - Can I participate EVEN THOUGH I am not an admin yet?

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Hi. I am not an administrator yet (as you should well know), but I feel that, by helping out with discussions (like deletion and Noticeboard reports [including admin noticeboard reports]) it might help me to be nudged in that way. You see, I am not one for creating articles or editing them majorly. It just isn't me. I love Wikipedia because of the community support! I am a bureaucrat/sysop on the Admin Tools Wiki, and my own wiki Sensible Wiki (but that one may soon be deleted as it seems to be going down hill...). I have Asperger's Syndrome and talking to others is a bit of a problem. BUT, if I get support that helping out at the discussions can help me get a better review at WP:RfA, then I am all for it! Do you think they will take my words seriously, even if I am not an admin? And they won't judge me as if I was always "Question asking and wrong!"? Because it is always good to ask questions! Thanks for your help! --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 20:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

A word to the wise - content creation is regarded by some users as absolutely necessary (I squeaked through there myself...) but experience in various areas is even more essential. But - here's the crunch - setting out to be an admin just for its own sake is a killer. RfA is a hell test - have you looked through any archived RfAs? I'd advise you very seriously to go through a load - both sucessful and failed. As to discussions, you in most cases you can join in. If it's a thing where admins decide things, obviously you can't decide, but many things are done by non-admins. The advice of non-admins like Chzz is highly valued. Admins are just ordinary users with a few more buttons, after all. Read discussions for a while before you join in, and only then join when you're sure you have a good point. Don't be disappointed if you get told that it wasn't a good point. Think about why. (I sometimes join in with 'This is a silly suggestion, but...') Best wishes. Peridon (talk) 21:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are no restrictions on non-admins participating at places like WP:AN, WP:ANI, participating in discussions at WP:AFD, sometimes carrying out non-admin closures at WP:AFD, reporting problems to WP:AIV or WP:UAA, and so on. One can also offer opinions at places like WP:AE (although only in the correct places, i.e. not in the "this section should only be edited by uninvolved administrators" sections) or WP:SPI (again, some sections are for admins and clerks only). In many of these discussions, the majority of comments are made by non-administrators.
In an RfA, many of those expressing an opinion would see positive contributions in some of these areas as being a requirement for support. On the other hand, it's also worth being aware that some would also perceive a non-admin who comments a lot at WP:ANI as being someone who is seeking drama more than they are trying to improve the encyclopedia. There are some non-admins who feel the need to comment at almost every single thread that comes up at WP:ANI, and that would attract a lot of Oppose !votes at an RfA.
Mostly people will take your comments seriously if they are carefully thought out. Mostly, people don't check to see if someone is an administrator, when reading their comments.
It is possible for someone to become an administrator without really having created much content, but it's a lot more difficult. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Everything has to be so hard, doesn't it? I actually thought administrator work was mostly maintenance and community help... which I feel I would be particularly good at! I once tried creating an article and it got speedy deleted. I am rubbish at it...I really am! I couldn't write an article if my life depended on it! The question now is, can someone who hasn't created an article (or at least tried and failed due to incorrect wording) still be accepted as a sysop? And if so, how can I do that? I know it would probably be slightly harder, but I feel that the admin tools helps me out quite a lot! I should know, after being a bureaucrat at the Admin Tools Wiki (basically, not testing out the tools but helping with the wiki itself [a maintenance guy]). Hope you can help answer that one! I feel maintenance and cleaning up the wiki (deleting old and/or unwanted pages) is what I love! (You probably thinking "No, I wouldn't do that", but that's just me!) I can help out with articles (like fixing errors etc...) but do I really need to create one? Thanks! --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 05:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]
I'm not an admin, but I'm a lot like you. I like to help with the infrastructure and other (mostly) behind the scenes stuff. I too would at some point like to become an admin.
What I have done is declare that I am a WikiGnome, and enough other eclectic stuff that I have to also admit to being a WikiPlatypus. Mostly I add or improve WikiLinks. Sometimes I re-word or rearrange something to make it more clear. I also add a few "Something here needs help" kind of templates as I read. (Some of those are a box at the top of an article or section, and some are inline, like {{huh?}}
Take a look at my user page and my edit history and you'll get a general idea. While I am NOT writing articles, I AM helping improve the content. I have declared that that is what I do, so if my actions on Wikipedia ever come under scrutiny, WHAT I INTEND to do is already laid out.
I spent several days exploring User Categories and User Labels before carefully selecting the ones that best describe my intentions.
Hope this helps,
Michaeloqu (talk) 08:31, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot, Michaeloqu! I might help you there (well, not personally of course, but help as in doing the same job as you). Thanks! --Jempcorp {My User Page | My Talk Page} 11:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]
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