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Your submission at Articles for creation: Itsjonny (December 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Theroadislong (talk) 09:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jaxon Montan! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 09:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Thanks for reaching out! I added lots of press articles and stats and that was fine when I resubmitted. I just heard that the article was not neutral or formal enough? I re-wrote the entire thing, maybe you can take a look at it and approve it :) Jaxon Montan (talk) 11:08, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Itsjonny (December 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Pythoncoder was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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—pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 07:04, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I just updated the article to be more neutral and formal. Do you think you could take a look and approve it :) Jaxon Montan (talk) 11:57, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Itsjonny has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Itsjonny. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 11:28, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Itsjonny (December 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Bonadea were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please remove all uses of the following sources:

his own TikTok or other social media accounts
Google searches
Spotify, Discogs, and other streaming websites

Please remove all claims that are sourced only to his own social media accounts.

The "TBR News Media" website appears to be unreliable, and in any case none of the links I followed led to any kind of significant coverage of him – just trivial mentions of his name.

Wikipedia can't make any claims about numbers of views, subscribers, etc, unless they are discussed in reliable, independent and secondary sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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bonadea contributions talk 15:10, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Spotify data is to show how they are a verified artist, something that usually shows notability. The other data from discogs helps explain his Early Life. I understand personal TikTok videos, but there are mentions of things like his TikTok username discover page which shows him accumulating over 19million views, something independent, and reliable as it is statistical. I cited TBR news media as it actually has a wiki page, as well as broadway world, so I figured those would be ok. Any google search results simply show his song panel when mentioning the song. This is again independent and reliable as it is from google. Do you think you can re-consider :) Jaxon Montan (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spotify does not show notability. A Google search link doesn't verify anything and is pretty much the opposite of independent and reliable. What do you mean by "I understand personal TikTok videos"? You didn't remove a single one – and the "username discover" page is equally inappropriate as a source. --bonadea contributions talk 22:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spotify usually doesn’t but they were verified by the company of Spotify. Please view the wiki page about account verification: Account verification. Spotify verity’s users that they deem notable. So you are not correct. And how is the username discover page an inappropriate source? That is statistical evidence. I haven’t yet removed any videos because I am waiting to hear another opinion as you don’t seem up to date on these things. And “the google search” references a song tab created by Google itself. Jaxon Montan (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I’m also not sure of how this submission isn’t formal enough. I re wrote it to be more formal and neutral as you can see in editing history. Jaxon Montan (talk) 20:37, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 15:11, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Itsjonny has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Itsjonny. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 20:48, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Itsjonny (December 18)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Bonadea was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Zero independent, secondary sources. A TikTok "discovery page" is not a reliable source.

bonadea contributions talk 22:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since you ignored all the advice and information provided by several volunteer reviewers, since you have not addressed the conflict of interest question, and since there is no sign of potential notability at this point, it is better that you don't waste your own time and that of your fellow editors by resubmitting the draft yet again. --bonadea contributions talk 22:23, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore previous advice? I rewrote my entire article to be more formal and neutral and added several sources on wikipedia. I don’t understand how my sources don’t show notability. Jaxon Montan (talk) 22:34, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Itsjonny

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 23:02, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Itsjonny

Hello, Jaxon Montan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Itsjonny".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:39, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]