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Your submission at Articles for creation: Panther National (June 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jlwoodwa was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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jlwoodwa (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PantherNational! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! jlwoodwa (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please help me get this article posted? My name is Jack and I'm working for Panther National. I'm now reading that I can't have the same username as my company (private golf course). So frustrating I spent hours on this article. Any help is greatly appreciated PantherNational (talk) 20:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jack, thanks for changing your username. I think the article is off to a solid start but that it will need a bit of work before it has a chance to be published on Wikipedia. The article draft was declined because there are no third party references that demonstrate that the course is important enough for a Wikipedia article. Just from some quick Googling, I see the course has been the subject of an article by the New York Post [1], by Links Magazine [2], Golf Digest [3], and by Palm Beach Post [4]. If you could add these articles as references in your draft, that would help. Are there any other examples of third party coverage you can find in newspapers or golf magazines? The more you find (and the higher their profile), the stronger the case you have that this course is notable enough to deserve an encyclopedia article.

The next thing that would concern me is making sure that the text in the article is not copied and pasted from a copyrighted source. Even if you have permission to contribute the copyrighted text, it is not as simple as just stating you would like to do this. See Wikipedia:Copyright_violations#Contributor_is_copyright_holder and Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information. Also, are the images copyrighted?

Finally, the article needs to be written in a neutral point of view in a way that is encyclopedic. I know you said you tried to write it neutrally, but "Panther National is the vision of Founder and President Dominik Senn, who united two golfing legends, Jack Nicklaus and Justin Thomas, to design and create a groundbreaking golf course" sounds like it was written by somebody paid to market the course and is just not going to come across as neutral. Hope this all helps. Malinaccier (talk) 00:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Username

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "PantherNational", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company".

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Jack.golfer1998

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Jack.golfer1998 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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User:Jack.golfer1998 was actually just transcluding Draft:Panther National. I've removed that transclusion, since it was confusing, somewhat inappropriate for a "main userpage", and likely unintentional. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for declaring your conflict of interest. That doesn't mean you can write what you like, you must follow the guidance below:

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You had no inline independent third-party references, and the text was a promo rather than an encyclopaeidia article

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]