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Palin

Thanks very much for the heads up. I fixed it. Sorry abuot the error.Ferrylodge (talk) 02:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

The ABX request

Yo, I asked if you would ABX some samples not for the sake of the article but cuz I was curious to see the results. I've been meaning to look for an audiophile who vigorously challenges the popularity of the 128 kbps preference and see if he can easily tell the difference from a properly encoded 128 kbps file and the original.

Tell me if you accept my challenge and I'll send you 4 wavs, (the original, one low bitrate output, one high bitrate output and 128 kbps output.) Download the ABXer here. (No pressure on giving it accurate ratings, just ABX at least 10x)--70.65.229.62 (talk) 14:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Rock and roll

I reverted your changes from "was" to "is" on the basis that the genre still exists and is performed as originally devised. You wouldn't write that chamber music "was" a style of music that only existed in the past, or jazz "was" a style of music, would you? I think anyone reading the text would understand that it was "invented" at a point in time and later developed into (arguably) something else - but the original style still exists, and in my view it would be confusing and unnecessary to qualify it by referring to "classic" R&R. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I didn't realize it was still commonly performed (except perhaps in Vegas). I didn't add the word "classic" and I don't like the word because classic rock usually refers to music from the early 60's to the late 70's. I added the word "early" because rock and roll is often used as a synonym for rock music.[1][2][3][4] The term "early rock and roll" is sometimes used to differentiate it from later rock. --JHP (talk) 11:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I think there are "rock and roll" bands (sorry, groups!) performing fairly widely in the UK, just as there are bands playing trad jazz, Gilbert & Sullivan, etc etc. I agree with the need to use a term like "early rock and roll" later in the article where it needs to be differentiated from "rock" in the modern sense, but not at the very beginning of the article where, in my view, it would just add confusion. The term "early rock and roll" is not in itself a widely used term (unlike, say, "rockabilly" or "R&B"). The development from the "early" forms to later forms seems to me to be covered in the text. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

PS Looking quickly at the refs you've given, these all support the argument in the second para of the article, that "rock and roll" can mean either (a) all the music that developed from the style invented in the 1950s, or (b) specifically the style as it existed in the 1950s (and maybe early 60s) before it became "rock". I don't see how that affects the first sentence, which says simply that it "evolved in" the 1940s/50s, and two lines later that it "developed into" modern "rock". Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Rereading the entire intro, I think you're right. I was trying to convey that the article is about the music of the 50's and early 60's. However, after rereading the intro, I'm happy with it as is. --JHP (talk) 11:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Bank of United States

A quick note to let you know that I moved the article to Bank of United States. We can, and should, think about the title further on the talk page but there is no sense in prolonging the move discussion without knowing what to move it to and New York Bank of United States was clearly the wrong one. --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 15:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

External Links

"External links go at the end" As a matter of interest, can you tell me where this is laid down? Captainclegg (talk) 11:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey Capt'n. It is laid down here. To quote:

“ When certain optional standard appendix sections are used, they should appear at the bottom of an article... Order of optional appendices: 1. Works or Publications or Bibliography 2. See also 3. Notes and/or References 4. Further reading 5. External links (It is especially important that this section appears last) ”

I think part of the logic is that the "See also" section links within Wikipedia, so it ranks high in the list. "External links" leads readers away from Wikipedia, so it ranks lowest. "Further reading" is similar to "External links" in that it refers people away from Wikipedia, so it ranks right above "External links". I don't understand why "Bibliography" and "References" are not adjacent. --JHP (talk) 11:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I had no idea! Captainclegg (talk) 12:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh! I just realized, "Works or Publications or Bibliography" refers to works written by the subject of an article. "Notes and/or References" refers to works written about the subject of an article. So, they are completely different! That's why they're not placed adjacent to each other. --JHP (talk) 14:16, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

weasel words

I noticed you tagged a couple of words at 2009 North Korean nuclear test with the weasel words template:

Many analysts have postulated that the test was conducted as a result of a succession crisis in the country. After Kim Jong-Il suffered a stroke in the summer of 2008, it is believed arrangements were made for his third son, Kim Jong-un, to take power upon his death. It is believed the North Koreans conducted the nuclear test to show that, even in a time of possible weakness, it did not intend to give up its nuclear weapons program.

Both sentences are sourced by the same reference. Allow me to prove the non-weaselness of each term tagged by quoting the Time Magazine article.

Many analysts and It is believed...

And Kim Jong Un is now, many analysts believe, officially in line to succeed Kim Jong Il as the leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea — which helps explain Pyongyang's recent explosively belligerent behavior.

It is believed (#2)

The North Koreans have chosen what could have been a period of weakness — with an ailing leader trying to arrange the eventual transfer of power to an untested son — to state that it does not intend to give up its nuclear weapons program.

Furthermore, the policy you linked to (Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words) says in the summary "This page in a nutshell: Avoid using phrases such as "some people say", or any variations of the sort, without providing sources." (emphasis added) Since I have provided a source, the templates are not valid, and I have removed them. Bsimmons666 (talk) 00:44, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but a single reference at the end of the paragraph is not sufficient. The reference should appear at the end of each sentence that makes a questionable claim. I have fixed this. Also, the question of who is making the claim is answered by "Time magazine." Therefore, I have made that abundantly clear in the article. If you want to cite the actual analysts cited by Time, that would be good too. Finally, the "many analysts" claim in the Wikipedia article does not match the "many analysts" claim in the Time article. According to Time, "many analysts" believe that Kim Jong Un is officially in line to succeed his father. Somehow in Wikipedia, this incorrectly got converted to "many analysts" claiming that the tests were conducted due to a succession crisis. Regarding the latter claim, Time cites an unspecified number of "diplomats and intelligence sources". --JHP (talk) 03:35, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

It is redundant to use the same ref three times in a paragraph if it's the only ref for the paragraph. Irregardless, I have added more references. Bsimmons666 (talk) 02:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The paragraph is much improved. Thank you. While reusing a reference multiple times within a paragraph may seem redundant, it makes it easier to verify a claim. Over time, new editors will modify a paragraph and frequently new claims will work their way into the paragraph. To the casual reader, those new claims will appear to have a footnote backing them up. Also, the more claims contained within a paragraph, the more difficult it will be to make sure that each and every one of them is backed up by the source. As a general rule, the broader the scope of text that a reference is supposed to substantiate, the harder it will be to verify.

I hope you are not offended, but I cannot help but refer you to what The American Heritage Dictionary says about the word "irregardless", which is an improper way of saying "regardless":

:::Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. ... It has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. ... It has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

By the way, thank you for serving in Operation Enduring Encyclopedia. --JHP (talk) 07:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with your point that over time multiple use of the reference would not be redundant, but I figured since I was watching it I'd be able to catch that if it happened. Anyway, it doesn't really matter now. And yea, I knew something felt a little wrong when I typed in 'irregardless'. Thanks for the correction. Bsimmons666 (talk) 16:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

that p.

took care of it, see my talk p. (I will soon archive your note there, also) DGG ( talk ) 20:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

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Aircraft article names

These articles are titled according to WP:AIR/NC naming conventions. Rather than adding the same post to thousands of aircraft article talk pages, it would probably be easier on all involved if you post to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (aircraft) instead. - BilCat (talk) 04:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I did not know that page existed. --JHP (talk) 21:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

No worries. - BilCat (talk) 21:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Forum for Stable Currencies

Dear JHP

Apparently you are the person who put a 'notability tag' on the page about the Forum for Stable Currencies. Are the new references sufficient to remove it?

Thanks for checking and letting me know on your page.

Sabine Sabine McNeill (talk) 20:16, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

No. You only added one new reference, and it's something you wrote yourself. That constitutes original research, which is a violation of Wikipedia policy. You are trying to use Wikipedia for self-promotion, which is highly unethical! --JHP (talk) 23:47, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Your thoughts on editing

I like them. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 05:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :-) --JHP (talk) 01:34, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

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There is no "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" button! There is no talk page! The page has already been deleted (within 24 hours of creation) so nobody had an opportunity to defend it. --JHP (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

I just wanted to thank you for continuously updating the MYSTIC (surveillance program) page for the last several months and generally keeping it current and up to date. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Have agreed with your earlier comment

...in hopes of moving this discussion along, see [5]. See also the related points here, [6] ("academic / professor" Talk entry), and here, [7] (infobox discussion in 16:24, 30 July 2014 Talk subentry). Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 16:32, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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Fixed. --JHP (talk) 18:10, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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My account is not blocked, but I just found out that Wikipedia blocks Cloudflare's DNS over HTTPS (DoH) service on IP address 8.9.231.165, even when I'm logged into my account. Cloudflare provides the first DoH service officially supported by Firefox, although I was using Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 app on Android when I encountered the IP address range block. The block was implemented by User:ST47. It is a 3-year IP address range block that ends 28 Nov 2022. I believe it violates WP:COLLATERAL. I request that the IP address range block be removed, or at least not block registered users. -- JHP (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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My apologies. I just tested in Firefox with DoH enabled and didn't have the same issues. I then checked my settings in Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 app. It has two setting options: DoH only and DoH with WARP. I had the latter selected without really knowing what WARP is. Apparently WARP is a quasi-VPN that protects data in transit, but doesn't hide a user's original IP address or location from websites like a normal VPN. Cloudflare describes WARP as follows:

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A check of my HTTP headers shows that my X-Forwarded-For header contains Cloudflare's IP address while my User-Agent header contains my Verizon FIOS IP address. Wikipedia is obviously primarily checking the former and I don't expect that Wikipedia admins have the power to change that. -- JHP (talk) 22:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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