User talk:Isenta

Suitable sources

Regarding your removal of the sources from Salesforce Tower. I agree with the removal of SF Weekly, I misunderstood how the author represented Salesforce Tower my first read through, and you're right. Regarding Twitter, that source actually is allowed on Wikipedia (with some caveats that I will get to later). To round out the sources in order to cover the information in that sentence, I would like to introduce a Facebook source (which, again, actually is allowed on Wikipedia.)

WP:ABOUTSELF allows self-published sources (including on social media) if the relevant material is about themselves, or their activities. The twitter source is about themselves, and the Facebook source is about "their activities". There are five caveats to this, and I believe both sources satisfy them all. That Salesforce Tower had a cameo in the film is not (a) an exceptional claim, (b) involve claims about third parties (Salesforce Tower is the first party, Big Hero 6 is the second party), (c) the relevant material is directly related to the source, (d) there is no reasonable doubt to its authenticity, (e) this is the only piece of information in the article that relies on social media.

The two sources are: twitter source direct from Salesforce Tower's twitter account, and Facebook source from one of the owners, Hines Interests.

Please let me know if you have any concerns about interpretation of WP:ABOUTSELF is accurate in this instance. If not, I will add the two sources back. --haha169 (talk) 06:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Haha169: Ok, sounds good. My mistake on Twitter, I didn't know there were exceptions. It does seem like a good addition to the article if it can be sourced properly. Isenta (talk) 07:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:42, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: Thanks. I didn't know about that. I'll do it now, hopefully correctly. Isenta (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it. I had this same problem a while ago, and am actually just copying me what an editor told me then. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:05, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NAC of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cardano (cryptocurrency)

I have reverted your NAC on this AfD. Please do not re-instate it. It is fairly clear that the "keep" votes are SPAs or inexperienced editors whose comments are not particularly policy-based. NACs should be made by experienced non-admin editors on clear, non-contentious AfDs. This does not qualify at all. If you wish the article to be kept, I recommend you comment in the AfD with strong policy-based arguments instead. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To your attacks on those editors: WP:AGF. To your request for policy based arguments: see the numerous arguments already made. Isenta (talk) 11:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"NACs should be made by experienced non-admin editors on clear, non-contentious AfDs. This does not qualify at all" nobody is arguing the article should be deleted, so it's clear and not contentious. i suppose that means you're calling me an inexperienced editor. you seem to have a habit of making it about the person, not the content. Isenta (talk) 11:23, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The presence of many keep comments does not mean that a speedy close is appropriate. None of the speedy keep criteria apply, so a non-admin close as speedy keep is invalid. Please do not revert me again or you risk being blocked for disruptive editing. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"None of the speedy keep criteria apply" Actually, they do. Claiming otherwise, doesn't make it so. Not one person has said delete. It's clear and uncontentious. Isenta (talk) 11:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I invite you to quote me which of the speedy keep criteria apply here. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:45, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Non-administrators_closing_discussions Isenta (talk) 11:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was not aware you were an admin. If that's the case, obviously you have the authority to overrule me closing the discussion. My mistake. Isenta (talk) 12:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that being an admin makes it okay. I could have reverted you. Your NAC was on a contentious AfD. Only an admin can close that. Even more than that, the discussion wasn't close to over, and it still isn't. _{Adotchar| reply here} 14:51, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Someone nominating and everybody saying 'Keep' is the opposite of contentious. And that was the status when I closed it. Even now there is only one weak, qualified, non policy based delete. I am baffled how anyone would call that contentious. Isenta (talk) 15:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

Now that the ANI is closed, there will not be any problems from me. I edited for over three years without any issues, I'll go on doing that. I felt ganged up on there and responded. I doubt anything like this will ever happen again. Isenta (talk) 03:16, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Although the discussion on WP:ANI is not yet closed, despite your misleading claim that it is, there's a clear consensus that your behaviour is incompatible with Wikipedia. Yamla (talk) 10:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The accusation that I am a spammer is false. I don't know how I'm supposed to explain or apologize for something which is untrue but they are incorrect. My interest in improving the project is focusing on things others tend to neglect. Hence the obscure things I tend to focus on. Isenta (talk) 03:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How one acts in the middle of a conflict is not representative of who they are as an editor. Please review my three years of history, not one day of arguing at ANI. If my edits are contested in the future, I will not so vigorously defend them. Problem solved. Isenta (talk) 11:44, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- From WP:Not_compatible_with_a_collaborative_project: "Wikipedia believes in giving people chances." I have never had any problems on Wikipedia prior to this. I think I deserve an opportunity to show this wont happen again. Isenta (talk) 11:49, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I believe that three years of productive editing with no issues shows I am very compatible with Wikipedia and I ask that I be given a second chance to demonstrate that. All of this can be traced to me vigorously defending challenges to my edits. In the future, I will not do that. Please allow me a second chance to show that. Isenta (talk) 12:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficient for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. Also, from the conversation below, you seem to be saying that you're going to contribute poorly sourced content and original research if unblocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:40, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment by non-administrator Understandable. Though, here is the thing: you had one request declined in the past 90 days. If you really mean it, then I say support. {{31}}{{25A (talk)}} 17:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I do mean it. I'm not good with conflict but I think three years of none of it shows I don't go seeking it out. If I simply don't engage in edit wars as I did here, I don't see this happening again. Isenta (talk) 18:14, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, if I were a admin; I would support unblocking you since you followed Wikipedia rules for the last 3 years, it is very obvious you already know the rules and want a second chance. {{31}}{{25A (talk)}} 22:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC) ~~2600:1700:2761:4E0:8036:C2E1:DD0A:4776 (talk)~~First time accidentally editing as a IP![reply]

So, when you blanked Praxidicae's question with the edit summary "rvv" what exactly did you find demonstrated vandalism? And, would you be comfortable answering the question? Tiderolls 18:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I was frustrated. That was not vandalism. I was retaliating him reverting me or whatever he'd just done. As I said, if I just don't engage in edit wars in the future, none of that stuff will happen. That's how it all began. Isenta (talk) 19:34, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - - Sorry I misunderstood what you were asking with part of that. That diff there is just one of the things I blanked of his in that edit war. I had not seen that question until just now. In 2017 I emailed the company and asked for permission and forwarded them the information for how to submit their release and they did. I would prefer not to reveal information about myself but I'll say that given my career I have an interest in that industry and company. I had no prior contact with them and there is no COI. Isenta (talk) 19:50, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Do you understand the concerns that people such as @Praxidicae, GSS, and MER-C: and others have raised over the linkspam? TonyBallioni (talk) 19:46, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - I can see how it might look that way if they suspected me of acting in bad faith. But the actual reason is very simple: it's the construction industry. Some of those having to do with history 50+ years ago. There just are not a lot of good sources. Some of that I was working from books or personal knowledge and finding sources to back things up. So I used what I could find. Isenta (talk) 19:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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