User talk:Indomitable

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Your submission at Articles for creation: British Equestrian Media Association (December 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ratnahastin was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please don't use primary sources such as group's own website.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:British Equestrian Media Association and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Ratnahastin (talk) 10:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Indomitable! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Ratnahastin (talk) 10:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: British Equestrian Media Association (December 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by KylieTastic were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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KylieTastic (talk) 14:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Indomitable! Your additions to Draft:British Equestrian Media Association have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
We have strict guidelines on the usage of copyrighted images. Fair use images must meet all ten of the non-free content criteria in order to be used in articles, or they will be deleted. To be used on Wikipedia, all other images must be made available under a free and open copyright license that allows commercial and derivative reuse.
If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, to the world, into either the public domain (PD) or under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps described at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. See also Help:Translation#License requirements.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 20:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback but the material which you appear to have removed was taken from the About page for the organisation and was co-written by me and another member of the BEMA Committee. We are trying to educate the broader media that a fifty-year-old trade body has changed its name in order to reflect changes in the way media works. My brief as a member of the committee is to update the BEWA website as BEMA and to do things such as create a Wikipedia page to spread the word. How do I allow use of my own content on Wikipedia and avoid it being flagged as stolen from myself? Nico (talk) 14:13, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: British Equestrian Media Association (December 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

No evidence of notability. Quite a lot of the content is unsupported by referencing – where is all this info coming from?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:British Equestrian Media Association and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:38, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Indomitable. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:British Equestrian Media Association, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:39, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate all this and, although you have provided links which I have not previously seen, I have always avoided biased contributions where possible.

I am not in the employ of this professional organisation, I pay to retain my membership, and my position as a co-opted Committee member is purely voluntary and a result of my skillset. My attempt to create a page for it reflects the fact that it should have one because it is the only one of its type in the UK. There is nothing promotional in my text, just facts about its creation and who has won the last few of its awards.

I completely understand that you must try to protect Wikipedia from vandalism and spam but this is a non-profit organisation for equine journalists. Indie (talk) 15:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, understand all that. However, I'm not asking you to make a paid-editing disclosure, merely a generic conflict-of-interest (COI) one. As a committee member of the organisation in question, you certainly have a COI. Whether your editing is neutral or promotional, whether the organisation is for-profit or not, etc. has no bearing on this. Please make the COI disclosure as instructed above (see the 3rd bullet point starting 'disclose'). Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:30, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have done exactly that already. Should I use a {{edit COI}} on the Talk page for the article? My own User page? Indie (talk) 15:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above template ( {{Edit COI}} ) is used to request edits to a published article where you are prevented from editing it directly because of your COI.

For disclosing your COI, you have two options (which one you choose is up to you, and you may do both if you wish):

You can place the {{Connected contributor}} template on the talk page of every article and draft where you have a COI and which you are editing or have edited. -- and/or --
You can place the {{User COI}} template on your own user page User:Indomitable.

Both templates need to be completed. In the first case, you need to add at least your own username, so that it is clear who has made that disclosure. In the second case, you need to add the name of the article(s), so that it is clear what subject your COI relates to.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:50, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have done both. Indie (talk) 15:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. I moved the draft one from the draft to the talk page. Otherwise spot-on! :) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:58, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:British Equestrian Media Association

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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