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(deleted earlier comments) lost interest, cannot find the refs. do what you like, I am not going to the afd. JarrahTree 05:40, 6 July 2016 (UTC) btw - youre doing amazing essential work on the pollies - keep it up! JarrahTree 23:29, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Cheers, it's really interesting work. IgnorantArmies (talk) 08:12, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

As a favour before you do that again [1] could you at least talk first before tagging? It would be appreciated in that order JarrahTree 02:46, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Draper

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Contests

User:Dr. Blofeld has created Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

International Star Registry

Sorry but I undid your change to my edits. I am not associated with ISR. This is not self promotion. The point of the edits was to cast some doubt on the legitimacy of the IAU. No to promote ISR. Please see the Talk page for Star Designation wiki article. I invite you to read a spirited discussion there and comment if you so choose to. Thank you. Glennconti (talk) 19:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Black people Suggestion

Hi, please urgently review your amends to the article Black people, the etymology section should be for the phrase 'black people', not 'black' which is quite irrelevant to the article and subsequent edits have tagged it. You reverted constructive edits that included references to the use of 'black people' and gave context to the information below and replaced it with unreferenced information on the origin of the work black. Please review. Mountain^cirque 15:04, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I haven't added any new information to that article, I simply reverted this edit, which was not constructive, as it contained wishy-washy language, unsourced commentary, and blatant factual errors. I don't have any opinion about the current etymology section, in fact it seems pretty off-topic so I'll probably remove it. There is a discussion on the section at Talk:Black people, feel free to weigh in there. IgnorantArmies (talk) 15:13, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

WA politicians

Hi, just now discovering the great work you've been doing here with this formerly desolate area. Great job! Frickeg (talk) 05:15, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Cheers, I think almost all government ministers and almost all MLAs have articles now. Can't say it was completely desolate, though, really just filling in the gaps. I can't imagine what it would have been like to start from scratch, without any election articles or lists of MPs. IgnorantArmies (talk) 02:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Great stuff on ministers articles

Any thoughts on the actual departments at all? JarrahTree 12:11, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Well, they're all notable, and I guess they'll all be created at some point. But it's a big job – I don't think there's any centralised list/database of historical departments (unlike the ministers/MPs, which are listed in the parliamentary handbook). The federal departments all appear to have their own articles (Category:Defunct government departments of Australia), but I'm not sure I'd take the same approach at state level. I understand why it's been done that way, but it seems a bit ridiculous to end up with separate articles for Department of Transport (1930–32), Department of Transport (1941–50), Department of Transport (1972–82), Department of Transport (1983–87), and Department of Transport (1993–96). I guess at a bare minimum we should try and have articles for all the current departments. I might look into it more in future. IgnorantArmies (talk) 13:44, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

In any case we might want to wait until after the state election – if there's a change of government that'll probably mean a lot of department name changes (unfortunately for us haha). IgnorantArmies (talk) 13:46, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

I have benefited - where names get changed the stationary gets tossed due to redundant info.. and not all people put it in recycling

Back to your dept thing - very very easy, current dept incarnation has predecessors listed in the history section, gleaned from the institutional lists as found on state records office catalogue entries.... I did it for the railways - look at Western_Australian_Government_Railways#Names - very easy, I should do more government departments, just for the previous names alone JarrahTree 13:21, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

It is an Island

You are correct that it used to be a sandbank. But in the last 1-2 years due to very recent erosion, rising sea levels and tidal forces it is now classified as an island. These pages will explain it better than I can. Tidal Island island Tied island Tombolo — Preceding unsigned comment added by RelaxtJosh (talk • contribs) 05:14, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

@RelaxtJosh: I agree with you that the linking sandbar is submerged more often than not, but you need to find a reliable source that says it is now classified as an island. If that happened, there would have been some publicity, and it probably would have been given a name. Even non-officially I don't think I've ever heard anyone call it an island (although people would understand what you meant). IgnorantArmies (talk) 08:49, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

So I have to find a reliable source that specifically states it is now classified as an island? By using this logic, that means if I go out, in a boat, to the middle of the ocean and find a new island where it used to be just ocean, it isn't an island because there are no reliable sources that classify it as an island. Reliable source or not, it is unequivocally an island. It is impossible for me to find a reliable source about whether or not it is an island because no current scientists are concerned (nor should they be) about the petty argument of whether or not it is an island because it's insignificant and they have better things to do. I have asked multiple lecturers from Murdoch University who have degrees ranging from geoscience to geography whether or not it is an island, and they unanimously agree with me that it is an island. I can see with my own two eyes that it shares identical characteristics with thousands of other islands and I can provide the reliable sources to back that up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RelaxtJosh (talk • contribs) 00:50, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Very strong misunderstanding why it is no t relevant and completely wrong and misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is WP:ABOUT - Relaxtjosh is talking about his own version of WP:OR. This is an online encyclopedia - see WP:NOT not a gazetteer or online source. If Relax wants to understand how wikipedia works, his experiential aspect of an island completely misses the point of WP:N and a range of other issues. Unless the Geographic names committee of WA or the national Geosciences Australia which could offer some form of identification - it does not exist adequately for WP:N - even if your own experience say so JarrahTree 05:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

It's not a made up name

Google maps says the name of the island is Sesquicent island — Preceding unsigned comment added by RelaxtJosh (talk • contribs) 02:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

@RelaxtJosh: Google Maps can be tricked into showing a fake name. If the island were really called Sesquicent Island, then a Google search would back that up, which it doesn't. Your work on WA geography has been good overall, don't ruin it by adding misleading information. IgnorantArmies (talk) 04:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

By the way, there are a few islands in Perth lakes that could be added to your list – there's one in Shenton Park, Lake Monger has one which I think is a bird sanctuary, and Hyde Park has two. There are probably more, but I would guess that most (if not all) of them are nameless, because they're pretty small. You might also find the Perth Wetlands article interesting reading, if you hadn't heard of it already. IgnorantArmies (talk) 04:07, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

I swear to god it was called Sesquicent island. You type that in on google and it took you straight to the island. It doesn't now for some reason. But I'll leave it unnamed until it appears on google again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RelaxtJosh (talk • contribs) 04:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I saw it before on Google Maps too. My understanding is that anyone can basically find a point on Google Maps and submit it as a new entry, and if Google doesn't fact check correctly (as they seem to have done here) then it appears, even though it's wrong. If the island were really called Sesquicent Island there would be other references to it online, like on a local government website or just in some nature forum. IgnorantArmies (talk) 06:30, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Africa Destubathon

Hi, thanks for your work so far! Can you do me a favour though and always add every entry you do to the main list here as well as the entries page, regardless if yet approved or not as that's the master list of all articles being done. It's just veyr time consuming for me to be judging the articles, trying to contribute myself and chasing up what people have done and filling it out for people each time. So if you can take care of that this would be a great help, there's some part filled out ones underneath so you just need to add country, article name and then you username. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Regional Four Day Competition

Hi IA. Will you be continuing your good work and starting the article for the 2016–17 season of this competition? If not, I'm happy to get the ball rolling in the near future, if needed. There's this article about day/night matches coming back to the tournament too. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Precious bodily fluids} 07:36, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I might do so at some point, but if you get an urge to jump in and do it yourself don't feel you're stepping on my toes or anything. Nice work on the South African and NZ competitions by the way – I think our coverage of domestic cricket is probably as good as it's ever been. IgnorantArmies (talk) 08:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, I made it one of my things to do with regards to FC domestic competitions for this year. Bangladesh looked promising, until the results dried up! Lugnuts ^{Precious bodily fluids} 10:46, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Western Australia cricket squad

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Australian politics/party colours/Australian Party (1930s)

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African Women biographies

Hello ! You are in the top 10 of participants to the African Women section of the The Africa Destubathon. Whilst you did not make it to the top 3, I would like to thank you for the numerous improvements to African Women biographies and thus for reducing the gap. Anthere

Anthony Lynham

I am not sure about whether he still practices. Some politicians do have to do a little bit of their "old job" to retain acreditation/registration and so on. In this particular instance, it seems that he was continuing to perform some operations that were already planned but after those were finished, he would not operate any more. [2] But I agree that the first sentence should focus on the politician role because that's the notability basis for the article. Kerry (talk) 04:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Good job copy editing some of my contributions on the Bill English page. You made the content read much better than I did. EvidenceFairy (talk) 05:31, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for leaving a message in my talk

I appreciate it, you were correct in doing so, I undid the wrong edit. It's corrected now, thank you. BedrockPerson (talk) 14:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I did it again. My bad. I didn't notice the previous revision still contained the word "mostly". Thanks again for reverting it. I must be having an off day. BedrockPerson (talk) 14:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@BedrockPerson: Yeah, bullshit. If you keep having "off days" you're going to find yourself with a block, just like the one I see you've gotten over at Wiktionary. IgnorantArmies (talk) 14:46, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay, assholeishness aside, this truly was a mistake. Let's not kid ourselves, we both know I'm smart enough to at least wait a little bit before adding something like that in again. Now, let's drop it. It was an accident. I apologize. I thanked you for reverting what would've gotten me blocked if seen by another mod. Calm down. BedrockPerson (talk) 15:06, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@BedrockPerson: No, you weren't smart enough, because you got caught out. And it definitely wasn't an accident. However, you seem to be a constructive editor on the whole, so just let this serve as a warning that sneakiness is never a good idea on Wikipedia. Even if it seems like you've gotten your way at first, it's always possible that someone will pick up on it months or even years later. IgnorantArmies (talk) 16:05, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Collect your prize

Hi, please carefully read the instructions at the bottom of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon for collecting your prize. I will need you to send me an email, your wiki name, what I owe you and your preference for currency in dollars or pounds/country of residence.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:42, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Bill English

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Bill English

Fair enough, but that being the case you might want to look at the articles about his predecessors, and perhaps tweak them. For example, John Key is currently mentioned as being the 38th PM of NZ, and Helen Clark the 37th. Just a thought. This is Paul (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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HNY

sheesh those province table arts look like a struggle

keep up the good work and HNY JarrahTree 12:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Cheers, you too. I think there's only one table to finish off, and then it's just a matter of plugging away at the bios every so often. IgnorantArmies (talk) 14:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Australian cricketers non-diffusing

re: [3]

Your edit comment said "cricketers by nationality categories are non-diffusing" but based on your edit (reverting mine) I suspect that "sub-categories of cricketers by nationality categories are non-diffusing" might be more accurate. Based on your reversion (which I'm not disputing per se) presumably per WP:DUPCAT at least one of the category chain Category:Cricketers from Victoria (Australia), Category:Australian cricketers by state or territory, Category:Australian cricketers "should be identified with a template on the category page". Had it been, I would not have removed the supercategory.

Adding {{Non-diffusing subcategory}} to all the subcategories of Category:Australian cricketers might be tedious, although by WP:DUPCAT it "should" be done. Adding {{All included}} to Category:Australian cricketers "can" be done and - especially in the absence of {{Non-diffusing subcategory}} - would quickly identify what I presume is the intent, and thus stop the same "mistake" from occurring again. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:37, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about those templates, I wasn't aware of them before. I've added the "All included" template as suggested, and I'll try and remember to do the same to any similar categories I come across or create. IgnorantArmies (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

ASE

Thanks for writing that article - I had a bit of a look at finding sources for one when I was expanding Edgar Dawes and gave up because I couldn't tie together a decent article, so I was stoked to find someone else doing it! The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:37, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I only came across ATUA the other week, and that's the first article I've written about a union. I'm going to try and do a few more creations/improvements in that area at some stage. I was surprised to find we don't even have a List of trade unions in Australia article yet (just a subsection of List of trade unions), so that's definitely on my to-do list. IgnorantArmies (talk) 11:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Alton, Illinois

I'm not sure why you would add this unsourced content in one edit, then in your next edit tag the article for lacking sources. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:14, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Unsourced content which restates the contents of an existing Wikipedia article? I guess that's a technical violation of WP:V, but it seems bizarre to remove those two sentences and not the dozen other unreferenced paragraphs which surround it. WP:NOCITE recommends that material should only be removed if it "appears to be false or an expression of opinion", which I don't think applies here. I'll hunt around for a source and re-add it at some point. Hope I'm not coming across as snippy, Wikipedia probably needs more editors like you keeping people on their toes :) IgnorantArmies (talk) 16:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Samuel Rocke

I think there's a missing half-sentence or something there? I'd fix it but you do a way better job of writing this stuff up. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Cheers, all sorted. IgnorantArmies (talk) 12:50, 26 January 2017 (UTC)