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November 2019

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December 2019

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January 2020

Your recent editing history at Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mr. DIY

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Razer(talk) 08:35, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Siasun robotics

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Nomination of Siasun Robotics for deletion

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I am sorry. Can you Please give me some time to improve the page. I am sure I can do it well. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for reminding me. The "sse" is the stock exchange short name.

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Speedy deletion nomination of CDF Duty Free

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The topicons on your userpage claim that you have many user rights that you don't actually have. The display of such topicons when you don't have the user right is highly discouraged. David notMD (talk) 13:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources

Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Verifiability. When adding a reference, the source needs to concur with what's in the article; a cleanup template requesting "more sources" doesn't mean "use whatever you want to remove the template". Furthermore, Wikipedia (in any language) are not reliable sources.

Due to these sort of issues, I have reverted your 4 Sept 2020 edit to the PLAAF aircraft list. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 03:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to re-add your attributions to WAF2020 because of the reasons I alluded to. As examples:

WAF2020 lumps together "J-11/16/Su-27/30/35" into one category, but you used it to (incorrectly) verify the individual quantities in the article.
WAF2020 says there are 15 J-20s; you added a WAF2020 reference and changed the number of J-20's to 50+.

I could go and correct it, but that's time I don't feel like investing at this time. If you feel like doing it, be mindful of WP:BURDEN:

The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material.

- RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 15:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For reference:

In it, you used WAF2020 as the source for the individual quantities of Su-27, Su-30, Su-35, J-11, and J-16.

In WAF2020 ([1]), on page 13, in the "China" section, subsection "People's Liberation Army Air Force", all of these aircraft are listed in a single row, type being "J-11/16/Su-27/30/35", with the quantity being "351". WAF2020 does not support the data you attributed to it.

Additionally, as I pointed out before, Wikipedia articles are not acceptable sources per Wikipedia:CIRCULAR which explicitly states:

Do not use articles from Wikipedia (whether this English Wikipedia or Wikipedias in other languages) as sources.

I - again - encourage you to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Verifiability, which is a Wikipedia core content policy. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 19:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

November 2020

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Ethiopian Airlines. Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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thank you, noted Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 10:41, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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People's Liberation Army Air Force

PLEASE STOP changing or removing reliably sourced, content as you have done on the People's Liberation Army Air Force article. If you continue these disruptive actions you may be permanently blocked from editing - FOX 52 ^talk! 16:43, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

these are not reliable sources, Flightglobal @2021 reports are just guesses. If they are real, how come we don't know what's happening in somewhere xinjiang! Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 03:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

refer to this negotiation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#This_ain%27t_real%21...

I will be clearing the source and replace with unknown until further discussion. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 11:22, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @FOX 52 ―Qwerfjkl talk 11:56, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2022

Hello, I'm RovingPersonalityConstruct. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.

After about 2.5 years of editing and reminders by other editors (including myself) you should know by now that:

Your additions must be verifiable (WP:VERIFY) and that it is your responsibility to ensure that they are (WP:BURDEN); you failed to do that here
You should not use deprecated sources (WP:DEPRECATED); which you did here

Then, you took the above two points and went on to misattribute information from a deprecated source to a completely different source (here and here.)

It's time to respect consensus and develop conscientious editing skills. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 11:34, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RovingPersonalityConstruct Which article are you pointing out, lecturer. Since I'm not allowed to add Chinese origin state media reports on my Chinese based articles, what do you want me to do? Speak for the inaccuracy and misleading old information, wise lecturer. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 11:56, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RovingPersonalityConstruct The Fuzhou class reverted edit is filled with prejudicement and injustice within the whole Wikipedia factbook and regulations. Look at the talkpage... How am I supposed to add that Global Times link on this ironic and catastrophically horrible site. How do you get the newest info other than Chinese state media. Speak for yourself with your inadequate 2.5 years experience. Scram off you've lecture me couple of times but this time, it is unacceptable. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RovingPersonalityConstruct if you have your eyes wide opened, read the article from GT. What a foolish act. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 12:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RovingPersonalityConstruct I noticed this severe crisis and issue, when the state media publishes info now, you must wait for foreign media to literally copy and paste the article until you can cite the exact same thing. bullish Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 12:03, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

what is this? an authorized verifying machine? Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1077388283&diffmode=source

This is baseless, I could've added a SCMP source. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 14:30, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you feel so strongly about the existing consensus, then the best thing you can do is get involved in the community process and try to change it. For example, if you disagree with Global Times being on the deprecated list, you should raise that concern at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Check out the sections of Wikipedia:Village pump too, if you are so inclined.

But regardless of the outcome, your edits are subject to Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Consensus. Yes, that may very well mean you may not edit in the way that you like; that's just the way it is. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 21:00, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did argue about it, fellow democratic and idiotic individuals on this platform just deem it a propaganda powerhouse... So, that's it. As for the WS-15 page, I'm going to add a verified source. For the Fuzhou class destroyer, I'm going to undo it and try to add the GT source. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop throwing in those regulation pages. I'm not going to open it because it is baseless. Wikipedia should be neutral and sourced properly Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This suck Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 10:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please look at the reference first before you deem as unreferenced. It is inside the top line. “All trainsets data are as follows (updated December 2022)” There’s no point of me flooding the table with the same reference tag. Stop reverting with said accusation. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 03:06, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincent60030 fanpage isn't an accurate source, cite something directly from Prasarana or MRT Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 03:33, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned yesterday, MOT/Prasarana Bhd., not fanpage. Please take note here. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 03:34, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you insist to proceed further with the citation, may I know where is the data from the fanpage sourced from? Is it from Prasarana or MOT. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 03:38, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

if not, that's clearly just an enthusiast-runned fanpage without clear verification and is considered unofficial Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 03:39, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You should do train tracking yourself and stop calling it a fanpage. It is a legitimate way of collecting data whether trains are seen or not. It is so simple. Don’t make this overcomplicating. Also can you stop preaching Prasarana or MOT as a reliable source? They are primary sources. WP:Primary Primary sources are less reliable than secondary sources. Do you need Prasarana people to go down and scout at every station to track which trains are in service? Use common sense. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 04:27, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also a word of advice, stop thinking you’re improving an article by only removing content. That’s not what editing is about. You have better tasks to help with than to remove things only. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 04:27, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fanpage, it's even written within the website name. Who's doing the train tracking, how can the process be independently verified? Even so, Prasarana Bhd. or MOT are the only source that's reliable, fanpage are enthusiast-runned and isn't official, accurate or verified in any sense.

Furthermore, YES INDEED, Prasarana does have a team of technician at the depot to service rolling stocks and record their status, this job ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO PRASARANA/MOT instead of UNOFFICIAL FANPAGE.

Moreover, I didn't claim that any articles have been improved as the data got sweepingly deleted, it's just removing unverified facts and making the page more accurate, that is ultimately better than adding unverified and inaccurate yet misleading contents, as someone clearly did with the design, ridership data, and rolling stock status by citing unreliable fanpage runned by enthusiasts as well as voiding the citation.

A word of advice from me, mind your attitude and the way you express yourself, it's very naïve to attack someone rudely directly or indirectly on this free online encyclopedia. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 05:14, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, how is the trainset data collected, and where is it collected. Why are there unknowns and who is doing it? Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 05:17, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MLPTF has its own verification done regularly. Plus it is also a registered organisation. It is official under ROS body. Again, primary sources include direct information given by the organisation who operates the railway. Data should be collected from independent people like rail enthusiasts AND the public who independently contribute to the trainset tracking database. I am pretty sure all Wikipedians can fly over to Kuala Lumpur and verify the trainsets themselves if that makes it more verifiable. Everyone have eyes to see. Why should data be collected only from the depot? MLPTF whilst being able to seek for verification, there is also a strict SOP on the status of trainsets. Unknown is not something fixed, and should not be held accountable for verifiability. However, it is different from “not spotted” due to the extent of the duration of the train being missing. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Judgement is just an user opinion and isn't accepted unless solid proof is shown. Still a fanpage, it's not official, verified nor accurate in any sense, too much unknowns, not spotted or guessing within the large table of data. Also, they've been train missing and not found since nearly 2 years ago, or train slated as decommissioned and is believed to be under repair in depot since the last century. Ultimately, there's to much uncertainty and inaccurate data to be classified as a proper source. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 13:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MLPFT's SOP, procedure or process, whether as a registered or a non-profit fanpage, all of the above are mostly just user opinion and it is undeniable that MLPFT functions as a fanpage and as a rail-enthusiasts-runned unverified site that isn't accurate. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 13:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also want to clear the air that I apologise if my attitude protrayed hostility or passive aggressiveness. My intentions were to help on editing efficiency while being able to provide as much information as possible. I do not condone uncited sources should be read, but knowledge is knowledge. And my biggest priority, imho, should be to help expand content. Usually my last resort is to remove said content, which I have proven myself during my good article edit “marathons”. I do my best to hold the highest standards. And arguments do happen. But I just want the best for the reader ultimately. I hope you understand. I am also looking for a compromise to move the trainsets to a list, which I am ultimately seeking from others’ opinion too. Hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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