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Your submission at Articles for creation: SynthBase (January 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Eyebeller was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of websites). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Eyebeller 19:14, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern regarding Draft:SynthBase

Hello, Hunges. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:SynthBase, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:02, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:SynthBase

Hello, Hunges. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "SynthBase".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Netherlands Judo Association (September 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Utopes was:

This is not the correct place to request new redirects. Please follow the instructions at Article wizard/Redirects. Thank you.

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Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dutch Judo Federation (September 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dutch Judo Federation (September 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jamiebuba was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Jamiebuba (talk) 10:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why the Dutch Judo Federation doesn't meet the notability requirements.

There are many national Judo Federations on en.wikipedia.org, for example: German Judo Federation, Italian Federation of Judo, Norwegian Judo Federation. The federation also has a page on nl.wikipedia.org: Judo Bond Nederland. I don't see why the Dutch Judo Federation is less notable than the others.

The Dutch Judo Federation may not get as much media attention as their athletes (from foreign outlets), but this does not change their - international - significance. The Netherlands is a big player in the judo world with many world/Olympic champions (Anton Geesink, Henk Grol, Angelique Seriese, etc etc). The judo federation facilitated their training, and more. Also take a look at the members of the Dutch Olympic committee.

My draft may not contain all there is to say. But it is at least a starting point, so that other Wikipedia users can contribute (and grow) to the article.

Can you explain witch things I am missing in this draft?

(@Jamiebuba, @DoubleGrazing) Hunges (talk) 10:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, happy to explain.

Notability standards for organisations are defined in WP:ORG. We need to see significant coverage of the subject, in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and entirely independent of the subject and of each other. This draft cites only primary sources, which cannot be used to establish notability.

Whether there exist articles on similar organisations from other countries doesn't come into it. Neither does the existence of an article on this subject in other language version(s) of Wikipedia, as each language version is entirely independent with their own policies and requirements.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. The need for independent secondary sources is perfectly logical. I thought that the 2nd version of the draft had enough 'secondary sources'. I just added some more, and submitted it. Hunges (talk) 13:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dutch Judo Federation (October 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Royiswariii was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

There are no changes in your references, quickly fails in WP:GNG. If your draft article still no changes, it might not submit this again.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Royiswariii (talk) 02:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Royiswariii I don't understand why the references still do not meet the requirements. Especially looking at pages like Kosovo Judo Federation, Estonian Judo Association, Judo New Zealand, Nepal Judo Association, etc. The references in the draft are secondary and reliable. For example the (local) government archive Utrecht Archives, the newspaper Algemeen Dagblad or the Dutch Olympic Committee NOC*NSF Hunges (talk) 20:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that you can't rely on same sources, and you failed in WP:MOS, not encyclopedia tone, and missing information. You need more to expand it.

If you want a help, go to Teahouse or Article for creation help desk.

Thanks! Royiswariii (talk) 23:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]