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Speedy deletion of Erie War

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Erie War

I've made this a redirect to Erie Gauge War, an article that already existed. Erie Railroad War also points to that article. The article is of course, as you say on its talk page, not (as somewhat oddly alleged above) "inappropriate", it just duplicates an extant article. - Nunh-huh 01:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

But the Erie Gauge War of 1853-54 over the rail gauge(s) to be used is quite different from the Erie War of 1866-68 for control of the railroad between financiers Cornelius Vanderbilt and the Drew/Fisk/Gould trio (who won). NB: Re gauges see my Rail gauge in North America. Hugo999 (talk) 01:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I can see that now. Sorry, I should have been more careful. What is needed, then, is sourcing for the article you created - especially welcome would be additional sources with regard to what this is generally called, since terming it a "War" is potentially misleading, at least on first glance, to generalist readers. The point remains that your article is in no way "inappropriate". - Nunh-huh 02:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Railway lines in western australia

Hi this sort of runs against what have been created in existing articles - was there a particular reason for a category such as this? Precedents or reasons would be appreciated - as the whole system of railway lines was being actually done differently from that SatuSuro 05:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC) If that is obscure I meant that there had been an attempt from earlier categories to separate Perth metro from country, and various country regions rather than a whole state - some eds seem to have a limited understanding of the system at its peak - it needs divided categories rather than one like that - as well as extant/active from closed/pulled up lines as well. SatuSuro 14:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

The intention is to get to the same level of sophistication of the template and breakdopwn into diff types as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildura_railway_line,_Victoria - cheers SatuSuro 11:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Several states (WA, & NT) were missing the basic subcategory “Railway lines in … ” of “Rail Transport in …” which is why I created them. There is the option of having like Victoria “Railway lines in Melbourne” as a subcategory of “Railway lines in Victoria”. New South Wales has “Railway Lines in Sydney” and “Regional Railway lines in New South Wales”. There are nine regions of Western Australia in “Geography of Western Australia” as in Regions of Western Australia which may be quite a number to have separate subcategories for. Hugo999 (talk) 04:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey your explanation is appreciated - my initial response of the 6th is consequently unnecessary - apologies for that - have a good 2009! Can easily work with it now i see what was happening - thanks SatuSuro 04:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of Bahá'í Faith in Europe

A tag has been placed on Bahá'í Faith in Europe requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Well my intention was to create a Category:Bahá'í Faith in Europe for the articles on Bahá'í in various countries of Europe, not an article, as there are several articles on Bahá'í people in various countries of Europe. PS: I am not Bahá'í myself. Hugo999 (talk) 06:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

glad to see your interest on the articles. There will actually be an article of the Baha'i Faith in Europe someday - I've been doing most of the country articles and wanted to get far down that road before doing continental/regional summary articles. There do seem to be some members of the European grouping that are at least controversial - Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan but I've little idea what to do about it on this end (the chatter seems to be coming from the folks that are making the regional templates being used in the Baha'i articles as well as many others.) Smkolins (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Well I went by the Europe navigation box at the bottom of the various Europe country pages, Turkey is both Europe & Asia, but Kasakhstan? (apologies for spelling?) Hugo999 (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Remove

Whe you add Category:(Year) in Southeast Asia, please remove Category:(Year) in Asia, thank. By the way, I think Category:(Year) in Southeast is not necessary, it only need Category:(Year) in Asia is enought. 207.233.71.107 (talk) 03:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

For Category:(Year) in Southeast Asia, I think it only needs for the years from 20th century onward, it doesn't necessary for the years before 1900, because there're already Category:(Year) in Asia. Cheer. 207.233.71.107 (talk) 05:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

There are some "Years in Southeast Asia" like 1858 where there is only the odd year because of an event in Vietnam (mainly?) and when the SE Asian countries should stay in "Years in Asia" also. But though the "Years in Southeast Asia" now goes back in a continuous run to 1945, there are not that many countries with a "Years in Asia" category, perhaps 30 (including Hong Kong & Macau). So later Southeast Asian ones could stay in both categories?

I noted when I started that up to 1995 Southeast Asian countries appeared in both categories, then were Southeast Asia only. So only a minority of Asian countries have the category of events by year, though most are not English speaking of course. But there are not many Asian countries with a "Year in Fooland" category, so perhaps the Southeast Asian countries could stay in both at present (as I have edited enough of them already, without wanting to go back!). I want to extend Oceania (including New Zealand) now. Asia seems to have at least 64 countries, though there are only 11 countries in Southeast Asia. The subdivisions of Asia are: Central 9, East 9, South 9, Southeast 11, Southwest 26 (total 64?). Hugo999 (talk) 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

New cat

I would like you create these cat:1957 in Vietnam, 1961 in Vietnam, Vietnam during the Kennedy Administration. Thank 98.119.177.171 (talk) 20:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Done, although I had to create Category:Kennedy Administration as well (at least Caroline Kennedy did not make it into politics - New York senate seat ? - otherwise we might have needed the "John F. Kennedy Administration" and the "Caroline Kennedy Administration" !!) Hugo999 (talk) 00:34, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Shoud we create Cat:Vietnam during the Truman Administration? 98.119.177.171 (talk) 02:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, was Truman or his Secretary of State involved with the French in Vietnam? Hugo999 (talk) 20:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• I see from the page on A. Peter Dewey that the Vietnam War started for the USA in 1955, ie during the Eisenhower Administration Hugo999 (talk) 07:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Minor Edit

Just a simple comment regarding your recent edit to Category:Education in Africa in which you added Category:Africa and marked the edit as minor. I do fully support your edit, but since the addition of categories is something some people do feel strongly about, it really should not be marked as minor. Thank you for your on going support of Wikipedia. Keep up the good work. Dbiel ^(Talk) 14:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Looking a you edit history a bit closer, you seem to be marking all of your edits as minor. I find it hard to believe that even you would really consider them all to be minor. My guess is that you have your preferences set to mark all edits as minor and just do not think about unchecking those that should not be marked as minor. If you could rethink that process, it would be greatly appreciated. Dbiel ^(Talk) 14:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

On additional comment, if you would consider using the edit summary box to briefly state what you did, it would make it much easier on other users who hve pages that you are editing on their watch list. There is really not much need to check a page edited by a registered user that has posted a clear edit summary where the other user would support the edit based simply on the summary. I had a user once tell me that every edit desired to have a edit summary, a POV that I have also taken up. See: User:Will Pittenger/User Boxes/All edits need summaries Thank you again for your work in Wikipedia. Dbiel ^(Talk) 15:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I will mark the major creations (eg new categories?) Hugo999 (talk) 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not understand your reply. New pages would never be marked minor. As far as an edit summary, it would simply be your reason for creating the category page, which might prevent another user for tagging it for deletion as unnecessary. Dbiel ^(Talk) 00:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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Category:Spa towns in India

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Same thing with Category:1962 in Malaya. --Stepheng3 (talk) 21:13, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Well "db-author" avoids the need for a reason, useful. "Spa Towns in India" must have been before I realised that the List of Spa Towns had only one for India that one - Bali was in fact in Indonesia.

Re Category 1957 in Malaya not needed, as for continuity the Category series should continue back as "Years in Malaysia" even though the country was only renamed to Malaysia in 1963. Just as Malaya at the 1960 Summer Olympics (title of page) is categorised as "Malaysia at the Olympics", and hence should also have the category "1960 in Malaysia". And also for the other countries that combined as Malaysia eg North Borneo. Singapore has its own category of course. So the series "Years in Malaysia" should extend back before 1963, agreed? Hugo999 (talk) 00:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Not being familiar with the history of the area, I'm not sure how the Malaya/Malaysia nomenclature should work. As far as extending the series goes, I recommend waiting until there are articles before creating any new categories. --Stepheng3 (talk) 01:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

A similar issue has come up with Category:Bays of the Carribean. -- Stepheng3 (talk) 08:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

a spelling mistake I thought I had tagged for deletion,; have done Hugo999 (talk) 11:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your cooperation. -- Stepheng3 (talk) 08:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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CfD nomination of Category:Labor disputes in Ireland

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Tombstone jurisdiction

As an outsider could the article clarify the jurisdictions involved. The action all took place in Tombstone (town or city) within the town limits (?); the article on Tombstone said it was founded 1879 and refers to Tombstone Ordinances No 7 & 9; but was 1879 when Tombstone was incorporated with a mayor and town marshal? The surrounding Cochise County where the "Cowboys" were from had recently (earlier in 1881) been incorporated out of Pima County, Arizona. And Virgil Earp held a federal appointment as Deputy US Marshal from 1879, was that from the Arizona Territory Governor? Hugo999 (talk) 02:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Tombstone was incorporated with mayor and town-marsall in 1979, and officially became a city when its population went over 1000 in 1880 (thus town-marshal simply became city-marshal, but the office is better known as police chief and this title was used at the time also). The countryside outside Tombstone was under two jurisdictions-- at the county level by the Sheriff's office (exactly as today). With Cochise Co. having split off, this was Behan's turf (he is the first Cochise Co. sheriff), and it was Democratic and Southern and rural, quite unlike the town itself. There were a lot of stockraisers out there who were originally from Texas, and had been sympathetic to the Confederacy. The second level of jurisdiction was at the territorial level, and that indeed was the US marshal's office. The territory Marshal was Crawley Dake (a wonderful name), with the deputy being Virgil (I believe he was appointed by Dake, not directly by Governor Fremont; but Fremont did appoint Dake).

So in the end you see the set-up for the conflict. The city-cops AND the feds are all Yankie/Republican/businessmen. The countryside and sheriff are basically Southerners, Democrats, and cowboys. The O.K. Corral fight has subtexts of the Civil War, which had ended only 16 years previously (and which Virgil had actually fought in). SBHarris 20:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, clear now Hugo999 (talk) 22:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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Medal images

Can you download etc medal pix for New Zealand Medal (1869). And the Queen's Mediterranean Medal, Territorial Force War Medal & (when I get round to it) the Transport Medal (1903) if you can get images of them! Hugo999 (talk) 12:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC) PS: have been out to NZDF Trentham, but can't recall the name of the Medals Officer there. PS: Also the New Zealand Cross (1999) if possible.

I was able to find pretty easily the images for the New Zealand Medal (1869) and for the New Zealand Cross (1999). but the others I haven't been able to track down sorry. (At least, not on sites that I can upload the images from). PalawanOz (talk) 05:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:WHO people

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AfD nomination of Frederick Sontag

An article that you have been involved in editing, Frederick Sontag, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frederick Sontag. Thank you.

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I think it was a list of uncategorised articles that I got it from; the article/subject was only categorised under "Living People" - nothing else! Hugo999 (talk) 07:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Subcategories by state, province, etc.

I appreciate your work in creating subcategories by state, province, etc. However, I am concerned by such categories as Category:Synagogues in Saskatchewan which contain only one page. I have created many subcategories (such as most of them in Category:Episcopal churches in the United States, Category:Carpenter Gothic churches, etc.), but I try not to create a subcategory unless I can populate it with at least 2 or preferably more pages. Also when a new subcategory is created, its parent categories need to be deleted from the pages put in the new subcategory. Category:Places of worship in Saskatchewan is a parent category in Category:Synagogues in Saskatchewan, so I deleted it from the only page in the subcategory. Best wishes. clariosophic (talk) 10:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Use of template:shipindex

Hi, can I ask why you're putting Template:shipindex on articles such as HMS Vindex (1915) and HSC Manannan? These are not WP:SETINDEX pages, the templates are designed to be used on lists of ships with the same name, not the articles on individual ships themselves. Benea (talk) 13:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again, if you've decided that these were not useful changes, can I make a friendly request for you to self revert them? I don't mind discussing this further, if you have any queries. Benea (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, will revert the ones that are not the “primary article” for the “shipindex” category, though some articles are in the “primary index” category, eg HSC Viking where there are two articles on ships of that name (there is also a shipindex page for HMS Viking). NB: If the “shipindex” was used for individual ship names, it would simplify finding articles where the ship name is known, but not the prefixes (HMS, HSC, RMS, SS, TSS or USS) or suffixes in brackets (R07, 1915) used in the title, unless there is a redirect from the basic name. The Wanganella has the prefix “TSMV” though not used in the article title. Hugo999 (talk) 01:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

The template is designed to be used on ship index pages, like for example HMS Amethyst, or SS Clan Alpine, which are pages that list ships of the same name, which help to direct users to the appropriate page. If there was a page like SS Clan Alpine for 'HSC Viking', where it listed both ships named HSC Viking (and there probably should be one of these pages), the template is used there. But HSC Viking as it stands is not a set index article, and should not use the template. Benea (talk) 13:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Category renaming

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Pinart

I've never tried to contact an editor on this site so I hope I'm doing it right. On the page about Alphonse Pinart, there is a reference (#5) to an article in French. The full translation into English of this article is available in the book mentioned in the first external link ("Early Visitors"). Could you make the connection clearer. I don't seem to be able to get into the References to make the change myself. Thanks Annmaltmanphd (talk) 16:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Will get around to Alphonse Pinart (which I edited re categories recently), involves "nesting" references I think Hugo999 (talk) 00:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Vickers-Berthier

Hi. I recently came across a page created by User:Sachit chem while newpage patrolling, which had already been tagged as an attack page. I followed his contributions to the article Vickers-Berthier, which, prior to two days ago, you had the only edit on. I rollbacked his edits as vandalism, but there's still a section added on June 19th by an anonymous editor, which I wasn't sure what to do with. I'm assuming that you know much more about this than me, so I'd appreciate it if you'd have a look over the article and see if there's anything worth keeping in what's been added over the last couple of days. Thanks. — Hysteria18 ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 19:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Christian missionaries in FOO

Hi; Christian missionaries in FOO are not necessarily FOOian Christians. An American Christian can be a missionary in Uruguay. That person is in Category:Christian missionaries in Uruguay, but that does not mean they are also in Category:Uruguayan Christian missionaries. The latter is a subcategory of Category:Uruguayan Christians, while the former is not, but should be in Category:Christianity in Uruguay. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 10:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I have not amalgamated the categories. Both “Category:Christian missionaries in New Zealand” and “Category:New Zealand missionaries” (probably to another country) can be subcategories of New Zealand Christians. The 19th century missionaries to New Zealand often settled down here and raised families (well at least the Protestant ones). Many of the Christian missionaries in South America could be classed both as Spanish or Portugese missionaries and Brazilian clergy or bishops (and then would be in a subcategory of Brazilian Roman Catholics).

Occupation etc does not have to be by place of birth, so Rupert Murdoch could have been both an Australian businessman and an American businessman and categorised under both nationalities. Hugo999 (talk) 13:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Um, not really. We're talking about nationality, not place of birth. That's why there are two different categories—one for nationality and one for place of missionary activity. Unless the people who "settled down" gained nationality in the place they were missionaries, they shouldn't be in the nationality one. Certainly, not ALL of them gained nationality. That's why it's inappropriate for the complete category of "Christian missionaries in FOO" to be a subcategory of "FOOian Christians"—not ALL of them are FOOians! Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Categories cover former as well as now so someone who was a notable agnostic and became a Christian could be under both as the former category would also be relevant. And Rupert Murdock was former notable Australian businessman Hugo999 (talk) 23:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but many of those in "Christian missionaries in FOO" never became a national of FOO. If you place "Christian missionaries in FOO" in "FOOian Christians", you're saying all the missionaries in FOO were FOOian people, which is not universally the case. The categories should be linked with a Template:CatRel, but I don't see how we can justify one being a subcategory of the other. It would be like putting Category:Australian businesspeople as a subcategory of Category:American businesspeople because Murdoch and a few other Australian businesspeople you know about eventually moved to America and/or became American nationals, etc. While it would be true for some, it's not true for all. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

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Breadalbane, Scotland

Removed Highland stub from this article. It is in the Scottish Highlands, but not in so called Highland region. The Highlands are much bigger than Highland region, and to boot Highland region takes in one or two lowland areas. A total mess, and confusing to folk even within Scotland.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Thaqnks, but as long as someone gives it the right categories; it had none apart from stub Hugo999 (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:Archaeological sites in Somerset

Hi, I see you created Category:Archaeological sites in Somerset and added a couple of articles & sub cats. How is "Archaeological sites" defined as there are loads which could be added including all Category:Hill forts in Somerset + various other articles depending on definition.— Rod ^talk 14:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Well I was adding sites already in Category:Archaeological sites in England, which includes Category:Hill forts in England, so perhaps you could put all of the "Hill forts" including Somerset into "Archaeological sites in ... ". And possibly all the "Castles in .... " subcategories? I thought a subcategory "Archaeological sites in ..." was needed for all the counties that had them Hugo999 (talk) 21:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Scotch Dyke Railway Station

I have changed some articles regarding this former railway station which you have edited as contrary to your belief the station was on the English (Cumbrian) side of the border. Penrithguy (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I looked at the line map to see where it was, but you are most probably right Hugo999 (talk) 05:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:British Columbian gold rushes

Hi; just noticed your new category; it should have been titled either Category:British Columbia gold rushes or Category:Gold rushes in British Columbia, with the latter being preferable by category/article-naming standards - note the article British Columbia gold rushes (which someday I've got to finish....). "British Columbian" is normally only used in reference to people; in an adjectival-modifier sense the usage is usually simply "British Columbia", e.g. "British Columbia politics" - which was a category name, recently changed to Category:Politics of British Columbia; note also Category:Mountains of British Columbia, Category:Mountain ranges of British Columbia etc. The category is new enough that no major CfD would be required for the change, just create the new one and, as creator, request deletion of the old one or simply make it a redirect.Skookum1 (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but as Redirects dont work with categories, use "Request Delete" I suppose Hugo999 (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Species by year of description categories

Hi there! I see you've taken an interest in adding categories to these. Just a quick question - are you planning to create the redlinked categories (e.g. Category:1933 in science)? Also, what do you think about only adding the decade category (in science) to the decade category of species? For example, you've been adding (and some categories already contained) Category:1930s in science (diff), but it might make more sense to remove that from all the single year categories and just leave it on Category:Species described in the 1930s. Thoughts? Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 12:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I want to have Years in Science back to 1900, so have added 19xx in Science to the Species cat. But have kept the decades eg 1930s in Science also and as most of them had it have added Decades to the few that did not rather than having them different. Hugo999 (talk) 12:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, Ok. Well, if there's no objection, I'll go through sometime and just remove the decade categories from the individual year species cats. I've been meaning to standardize all those categories, anyway. I think it fits better if the hierarchy is Category:1930s in science > Category:Species described in the 1930s > Category:Species described in 1933 (or you could follow Category:1930s in science > Category:1933 in science > Category:Species described in 1933). Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 12:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Will remove the Decades as I add the years then from 1939 back , which leaves 1980s back to 1940s I think. I thought that I might have disturbed an existing arrangement if I did so. I was originally adding some earthquake by years cat. and found the science by year missing. Hugo999 (talk) 12:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

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Alfred James (Fred) Murdoch-MP for Marsden

Fred Murdoch was the MP for Marsden in Northland (1922-25 Independent Liberal-Bassett, 'Three Party Politics', p.66; 1928-35 United Party; and National 1943-54). He was Minister of Agriculture and Mines 1930-1 (in the Forbes Administration) and Senior Whip in the Coalition Government. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.88.40.250 (talk) 02:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Have added a stub page for Alfred Murdoch Hugo999 (talk) 04:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Minor edits 2

I hope you don't mind my suggestion, but I think you might want to review WP:MINOR and WP:EDSUM. In brief, you should mark an edit "minor" if you are correcting a typo or really obvious mistake. Like if you changed "Drawin" to "Darwin" in Charles Darwin, you would mark it minor. Changing a category is not minor. Even if you are fixing a category (I noticed this small change), you should not mark it as minor. You should add a brief edit summary like "change cat" or "add cat" or "fix cat" to make it easier for other editors to follow the page history. Johnuniq (talk) 10:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I was changing rather a lot of 20th century science pages from decades in science 1900s to 1980s eg 1980s in science to Years in Science eg 1981 in science, which I have now done (unless the 19th century is worth changing) Hugo999 (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Good work. The important thing of course is that such work is done, and issues like flagging an edit as "minor" or using an edit summary are relatively unimportant. However, you actually have to click "minor", so I am suggesting that you save yourself the effort when you are changing a category. If you are interested in my understanding of the rationale, please ask, but the fact is that many editors (and I'm the second person to post here with this claim) regard changes to categories to be significant (indeed, you wouldn't be doing it if you didn't think it was important). At any rate, changing a category is definitely not "minor", as explained at WP:MINOR. Re edit summaries: Sometimes when I am doing repetitive work, I edit 10 or so pages, each in a separate tab. It is then pretty easy to move from tab to tab and paste the one edit summary into each of the pages before clicking save. Johnuniq (talk) 03:55, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Well when just amending rather than adding a category it would be as quick to copy a reason, but not when also copying a new category. Hugo999 (talk) 09:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Walter Powdrell MP for Patea

According to the Coroner's report into the death of Walter Powdrell, he killed himself by defenestration (Auckland Star, 11 March 1921, p.5). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.86.45.178 (talk) 09:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

So he should be in a Suicide category like William Larnach and another MP that I can't recall the name of; enough for a new category Category:New Zealand politicians who committed suicide! Hugo999 (talk) 10:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Richard Hutton Davies

Thanks a lot for linking to his file - I had no idea the material was available! I'll try and incorporate it into the article when I get a chance. Shimgray | talk | 15:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to this so forgive me if I've posted to the wrong place

I just wanted to add to the Dr. Baez info. Did you know he also was part of the two man team that developed the first CD player? The joke between Dr. Baez and the other man that worked with him was that do to funding and schedule constraints they had to play "Jingle Bells" by Christmas and they did play "Jingle Bells” by Christmas and we have the CD player. My first attempt at physics was thought by Dr. Baez's partner in that project who also is a brilliant and kind man that told me many wonderful stories about the way things were to try to keep me encouraged in mine and my mothers quest for education which he did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SD421 (talk • contribs) 11:02, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry (?) the page on Albert Baez is not one that I have edited - or even seen before! He is outside my knowledge unfortunately. Hugo999 (talk) 11:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I copied the stuff in brackets below off the Wiki sight so that’s how I ended up here. I don’t know how this site works so like I said forgive the intrusion I just “sent” me here I guess. I can comment on what the person wrote below and say that according to the man that tried to teach me physics the first time the statement is true, he refused.

[Joan Baez's page said that her father refused to work on the Manhattan Project to build the Atomic Bomb - but it is not mentioned on his own page! Hugo999 (talk) 08:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_Baez"] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.24.55.129 (talk) 12:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, sorry I forgot about that comment on her page; could cite her statement as souirce I suppose Hugo999 (talk) 21:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

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Catagories Removed?

Hi, I noticed you removed the pages Anjodi and Scottish Highlander from the "hotels" catagory. I wondered why this is? Both these hotel barges are, by definintion, hotels. They have the novelty factor of being afloat just as the Cedar Creek Treehouse Hotel at Mount Rainier has the novelty factor of being in a tree, or the Ice Hotel in Quebec is a hotel made of ice. We no longer define hotels as buildings of brick and concrete. They are places with rooms that are rented by the general public, tourist attractions, just linke these hotel barges. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver Barge (talk • contribs) 14:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but Hotels is a main/root category and should not have individual hotels. I think the Anjodi & Scottish Highlander were the only hotels in that category, which is there for for general articles not related to a particular country or hotel. If I was looking for an individual hotel, then I would go to the country or to the type. I have added a link from “Barge Hotel” category which is now also a subcategory of the “Hotel type" category (there could be subcategories for individual Ice hotels and Tree hotels if there are a number of either type). Hugo999 (talk) 00:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

My appolagies I should have looked at the catagory before adding things to it. Thank you for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver Barge (talk • contribs) 17:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Deserts of Yukon

I have nominated Category:Deserts of Yukon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

These deserts (Okanagan Desert and Carcross Desert) are included in the navigation box for Deserts at the bottom of most of the Desert articles, so the writer of that box should have been been consulted. If they are to be recategorised so should a few other articles. The Okanagan Desert may be a desert as the criteria is low rainfall not whether it has shrubs on it, see Kau Desert. Hugo999 (talk) 12:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Category: Education in Tuva

I see that you have recently created this category. Whilst I welcome your enthusiasm I was under the impression that categories should only be created where there were sufficient articles to justify them (at least 4). I think it highly unlikely that many more articles will be created on education in Tuva since information on the subject is sketchy to say the least. Should this category be deleted? Thanks. Maidonian (talk) 11:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

. Any category by country or by state/province (here oblast etc) will have some of the subcategories with only one one or two pages in them (see exemptions in policy shortcut). If you drop all these subcategories then the main category (here Education in Russia) will not cover the areas where only one or two articles have been written. Similarly a small country like Tonga is lucky to have one Olympic medal winner but he is still categorised under Category:Olympic medalists for Tonga and users would expect to find him there Hugo999 (talk) 12:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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MPs and Electorates

Are you able to create the following pages please: Jack? Williams(Wairarapa 1969-75); Richard? Mayson (Hastings 1972-75); Bill Laney (Oamaru 1972-75), Mayor of Oamaru?; Ian Quigley (Otago Central 1972-75); Roger Drayton (St. Albans 1969-78), Squadron Leader?; Keating? (Hastings 1954-?). Thank you! Refer to List of New Zealand Labour MPs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.55.86.236 (talk) 20:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Done inc following 1935 MPS: David Barnes (New Zealand), Charles Barrell, Charles Burnett, Edward Luttrell Cullen Hugo999 (talk) 13:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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Redundant categories

Why did you add the categories to:

• 112th United States Congress
• 111th United States Congress
• 109th United States Congress
• etc.

Those articles are in eponymous categories. Those categories are already subcategorized. Therefore, the categories you added were redundant. Or am I missing something?—Markles 13:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

While eponymous categories for people are frowned on except in certain circumstances, categories like Category:109th United States Congress are expected to get other related articles in time, eg acts and elections during that session Hugo999 (talk) 21:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

• Then I'm confused. Should Category:2010 in the United States be assigned to:

1. Category:111th United States Congress, or
2. 111th United States Congress, or
3. Both? —Markles 01:02, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Why not both - the congress was in 2010 (hence article?) and so did some of the other articles in the category (hence the category). The 111th Congress will last from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011, so only marginally in 2011, though there is probably some end-of-session cleanup during Jan 1 to 3 2011 Hugo999 (talk) 20:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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Palestine Railways

Thankyou for adding some detail about the NZ Railway Group's role on Palestine Railways. I've modified your text to increase correlation with the section and separate article about the Jezreel Valley railway and I've formatted your entry of Judd's book in the "Sources" section. Where an article has a section listing cited works, the inline citations should give only the author, date and page number. If you add page numbers to your inline citations for the NZRG's various operations in Palestine that would be helpful. By the way, were all of the lines that the NZRG operated 1050 mm gauge? Motacilla (talk) 11:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

A map shows standard gauge from Haifa down the coast to Egypt and inland to Jerusalem. Also standard gauge Egypt to Libya, nearly to Tobruk (to Belhamed). There is a table comparing the "WD" ie the Stanier 8F with the NZR K class 4-8-4. Re refs, I don't know if the pagination of the privately printed 2003 edition is the same as the 2004 Penguin edition, but will check Hugo999 (talk) 22:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

References >> Categories

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Film infobox credits

Hello! Re: your recent edit to In This Our Life, when I expanded the article I intentionally did not list Raoul Walsh as an uncredited director in the infobox because only official screen credits should be included there. There was a recent discussion about this at [1]. (BTW, surprisingly IMDb does not mention him at [2].) Cheers . . . LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 16:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Well OK. But it is accepted that Walsh finished the film? But having read the John Huston article from the main page as an article of the day, was surprised to see no mention in his article of the episode of his enlisting after Pearl Harbour and leaving two films for others to finish Hugo999 (talk) 20:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I just looked at the Huston article and personally I think it could be improved quite a bit! LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 20:57, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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Comments now included with the image info; this image is widely used by the GWRC for publicity/promotions eg on Metlink News]; No 8 or 9 I think. Hugo999 (talk) 00:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

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No offence

But I keep finding mother and child categorisation - or in another words - a parent and child cat together - there is no point in putting 2 levels of categories on the same page - cheers SatuSuro 23:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

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Well I should be able to reply when my internet connection (which is dependent on the miracle of Windows f… Vista) stops falling over! Hugo999 (talk) 12:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC). Have explained the "fair use" justification, though withought being able to find the right template. My son created the page using the image as a course assignment Hugo999 (talk) 21:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)