User talk:Htmllife

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Secondary sourcing

Wikipedia is generally built on secondary sources - what you added was a primary source (see WP:PRIMARY). To mention something like that we would definitely need a secondary source. That would be something like a book from a reputable publisher, an article in a major newspaper, or a peer-reviewed academic journal. MrOllie (talk) 15:15, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not reasonable to require this with the existance of multiple alive links, directly in twitter, that prove the existance of such contents. Htmllife (talk) 15:23, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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See, you didn't care to just check the link or the contents. You are so lost in bureaucracy that you ignore the basics.

This is going to make a great history about how history is "fabricated" in wikipedia. Htmllife (talk) 15:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you misunderstand how we use sources here - there are multiple sources that attribute the first use of hashtags to Messina. All we do is follow what they say. You can't come along with a primary source and use it to cast doubt on as secondary source - see Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary. If you think that history is being fabricated, then the solution is to speak to tech journalists about why the history of the hashtag is inaccurate and if they agree they will write an article which we can cite. SmartSE (talk) 17:39, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First, thank you for answering me like a human and not like a rule book. It is a nice change.

You see, I can't understand why you need a journalist to prove that a date is accurate. You can check my edit, all I wanted is, without taking credit from messina, to show that there a tweets, alive in twitter, with a date that use hashtags earlier than that, and I have more than a dozen.

Would wikipedia need the opinion of a journalist to prove that 2+2 is 4? It seems like it is necessary to prove that april and/or july 2007 came before august 2007.

There is no conflict of interest with facts and true. Sooner is sooner. I really see a COI in not making this correction available to the people.

And it is so sad that I now have to spend time and resources to get a journalist to prove this. What I would also do is prove that wikipedia has ridiculous burocracy for some things and that facts are not a priority.

If I was able to hack twitter to change tweets date, I would certainly now how to avoid all this nonsense. This is all so absurd.

Anyway, thanks for being empathetic and taking the time.

Sorry if my english is flawed, I am spanish. Htmllife (talk) 17:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]