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Forces in [[World_War_I | World War I]]; recipient of the [[Distinguished_Service_Medal_(US_Army | U.S. Distinguished Service Medal]] and numerous other honors<ref>{{cite book |last1=

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Notables must have articles AND sources

Your recent edits to the article for Morristown-Beard School have added many notables to a list of alumni, most of whom don't have Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia policy regarding notables in such lists requires that those includes must have their own Wikipedia articles establishing notability AND must have reliable and verifiable sources establishing a connection to the school. There are more than a dozen entries without Wikipedia articles that will be removed in accordance with this policy. Alansohn (talk) 05:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can tell, the notability policy does not specify that people listed on notable alumni lists for schools must have their own independent Wikipedia entries. Rather, the guideline states that individuals in notable lists should have proper sourcing as to school status and notability. These entries do. In fact, the list of people who graduated from the school has better sourcing for both alumni status and notability than some colleges' list of notable alumni. Hppalm (talk) 05:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)hppalm[reply]

For further reference, consult the alumni list of a major school, for example Case Western Reserve University. You will notice some persons there who do not have their own articles but do have sourcing. Also, Wikipedia plainly states in the Notability guidelines that these are *guidelines* rather than hard and fast rigid rules. I do not see the reason to single out this one article over those of many other schools.Hppalm (talk)hppalm

WP:LISTPEOPLE is rather clear in treating those individuals without articles as distinct exceptions. Sure, there are articles where editors have not cleaned up laundry lists of prospective notables, but I can also point you to 1,000 other articles where all entries have articles and are accompanied by reliable and verifiable sources establishing a connection to the school or place. Reasonable exceptions may be appropriate, but I count at least a dozen entries without articles, meaning that there are more exceptions than valid entries. Usually these exceptions are made only for individuals such as elected officials and professional athletes, for whom there is a consensus that such individuals are notable. Winning a medal does not guarantee notability. I'd be more than happy to cut this article back, but you can feel free to start pruning the list to focus on the one or two exceptions. The remaining entries should await the creation of articles that establish notability and the best way to do that is to start creating articles that meet the Wikipedia general notability guidelines for such articles. Alansohn (talk) 21:18, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the individuals have backgrounds that warrant their own entries. I would happily create these entries if you let them remain on the list until the creation of the entries in the next few weeks. To give an overview:

David Guy flew many missions for the elite Lafyette Flying Corps. That group certainly has notability to have received books on biographies of its 200 or so members. Enough material in books documents these two individuals' impact that he certainly should receive their own standing entries.

Numerous books document Samuel Thomas Hubbard's service in militiary intelligence in WWI and how he accurately predicted a major battle at Chemin des Dames when others did not expect it.

In the case of Margaret McCulloch, her status as one of about 20 major woman civil rights leaders received about a 20-page profile in a book on that subject. She engaged in many activities therein over several decades to warrant her own entry.

Mary L. Dyckman not only advocated for NJ laws but testified at Congressional hearings on child labor laws, workplace compensation, and Medicaid. She attained such impact as an advocate for health and safety change in the U.S. that the Newark library houses a large collection on her. Thus, she certainly warrants an entry.

I don't know why Barrington Moore does not already have an entry. The man had substantial impact on the practice and research of forestry for several decades.

Siobhan Teare is a major judicial official in the state as an elected member of the Superior Court (the appellate court below the NJ Supreme Court).

Julie Beckman co-designed the Pentagon 9/11 memorial and has taught at UPenn's architecture department. She previously served as Associate Chair of the Department. I think that record speaks for itself. To design the memorial she and her husband won a national competition that had over 1,000 entries.

Martha MacGuffie served for 55 years as a foremost surgeon and AIDS activist. A NY State Senate award ceremony honored these accomplishments and her as a woman of distinction in 2011. She also received the prestigious Lions International Humanitarian Award and has received mention in several books.

Virginia Hopper Mathews engaged in literacy and library advocacy with service to nonprofit organizations and the federal government over several decades. Multiple pages on the Library of Congress site discuss her work.

Judith Tobin served continually as the Assistant Medical Examiner (i.e., just below the Chief Medical Examiner) for the State of Delaware for several decades. A number of books and reports published between the 1950s and the '00s document her medical service and impact.

Ileana Saros served as an official for the State of NJ in her role as Deputy Attorney General (i.e., just below State Attorney General). She successfully led efforts to end abuse of older persons in nursing homes and curb fraud in Medicaid.

Jane E. Barus was only of only 7 women elected among a group of 81 delegates to write the current NJ State Constitution in 1947. She also had a lengthy tenure of service to the NJ League of Women Voters.

One could make the argument that fending off an attack by several German Planes simultaneously to protect his comrades and ensure the success of a critical photographic (espionage) mission makes Charles W. Plummer more notable than many other persons on Wikipedia. A number of books about noted New England aviators, the war, and Harvard document his heroism. Despite receiving 30 bullet holes in his airplane, he continued to fire on the Germans. Not many American soldiers can attest to such service.

Arguably, the only other person without an independent Wikipedia entry who perhaps did not have as major national or state impact is George Hammond Tilghman. However, he did serve as one of the early headmasters for the school and he did see the school through its most trying financial period during the Depression (private schools having a dependency on donations). He also died heroically at the helm of a carrier aircraft service unit while trying to save others.

There are potential claims of notability for some of these people, but the lack of Wikipedia articles combined with the lack of mentions of most of these individuals in any other article only serves to make these claims questionable; These entries could meet the Wikipedia notability standard and I would be most supportive of reinserting these entries once articles have been written that meet the standard, accompanied by reliable and verifiable sources establishing a connection to the school. I do appreciate the attempt to offer a history lesson about the school, but in the seven years that I have edited the article I have become more than familiar with the predecessor schools. Adding sources establishing a connection is essential, but pointing at an entire book can be unhelpful, especially in cases like Pell where his own Wikipedia article makes no mention of attendance here and where a reference to a specific page (let alone a quotation) supporting the connection to the school has not been provided. Please try to be far more specific in the future in detailing how a source establishes a connection between an individual and the school. Alansohn (talk) 14:29, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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