User talk:Hendursaga

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If your repeated attempts at creating a biography were your only edits, I would have blocked you by now, but you have made other edits, declared your COI and appear not to be writing about yourself. He's clearly notable, but just posting the same non-compliant text is never going to end well. I'll post further guidance, may not be today, but please don't edit again on this topic until I do so Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User:Jimfbleak,

Thank you for your explanations. First, being a new user, I wasn't sure if you have seen my earlier comment for the H.D. Vinod article (it was in the talk page), so here I copy it below:

" Please do not delete without understanding what this is about. I am a 50 year old economist with 2 popular textbooks and also associate editor for a well-known scholarly journal. Vinod was my dissertation mentor so I already acknowledged conflict of interest although this was 17 years ago. I may or may not be notable but he definitely is. He is 85 years old. He does not need advertising or promotion. His most important contributions were 50 years ago. His 1969 paper alone has 203 citations which is like thousands of citations today (There was no Internet and significantly less journals and academicians back then). RePEc is very important in economics and he is ranked among the top 5% of economists in RePEc. This is despite his being an econometrician (It is much more difficult to publish in econometrics as opposed to applied papers.) He also has three R packages which I didn't mention in my article. You can ask any expert in this field and they will tell you that he is important. I tried my best but please help me write the entry he deserves. "

Second, I really appreciate your helpful attitude. I think Wikipedia can definitely benefit from contributors like me. Yes, I am not writing about myself and I can reveal my identity to you if that's going to be helpful.

Third, please note that I was not trying to promote him but attempting to establish his notability. These are clearly very corraleted. I mean, when I look at other similar pages I see see stuf that can be considered a bit promotional or exaggerated. So I don't understand why my article is not acceptable. I spent a lot of time creating it.

Finally, Dr. Vinod is clearly notable (as you also mentioned) and I really want to publish a Wikipedia page for him as he is 85 years old. The entry can be shorter or different, that is not very important. Maybe his other students can provide more in the future. For the time being, if you could help me accomplish this, I promise I will continue to contribute more to Wikipedia in the future.

Regards

Hendursaga (talk) 11:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I had seen your edit summary, which I took into account. You will appreciate that most bios are self-written.

When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.

The main problem is you sourcing, you are using sources affiliated to him rather than independent third-party sources. You have correctly listed his publications, without references, but you can't use the books to reference themselves in the text. If you want to mention the books in the text, you need other reputable sources to have commented on them in a non-trivial manner.

You don't mention that he's a full professor, that's important to meet the notability criteria I've linked above.

Looking again, i think this is fixable, and I'll restore for you to improve. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for this. I did learn a few things from the links and also did some more research, resulting in a bunch of revisions and improvements. In particular, I tried to improve wording, added info about his being a full professor, added a new reference (book review), and added two external links (His JSTOR page and a news article about his receiving a Bene Merenti Medal for 40 years of service at Fordham). I thank you in advance for any further directions. Hendursaga (talk) 13:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hrishikesh D. Vinod (October 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by SafariScribe were:

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hendursaga! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]