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Sadqa Hussein and Yaakov Mutzafi

Hi, I came across your new article for Sadqa Hussein when you added it to Sanhedria Cemetery, which is on my watchlist. I took the time to add some reliable sources and removed the PRIMARY tag. However, I didn't check the other sources you used. I just wanted to say that you are using very flowery language on both these articles, in violation of WP:PEACOCK and WP:NOTESSAY. Please try to maintain an impartial, encyclopedic tone in your future article writing. Thank you for your contributions. Yoninah (talk) 23:35, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the good edit and tips, I learned some things that I did not know from your sources. I have seen some of your extensive work in WP. I rolled back the name of the shul to Shemesh Sedaqah (it's visible 3x on the building in the photograph) and the name of the sefer (in Tidhar's book it's a typo; see here [1]). Also, you may want to check out my shul article here Draft:Shemesh_Sedaqah_Synagogue Havradim (talk) 03:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I included a source for the incident with the young Ovadia Yosef. Did you not trust it? It doesn't contradict the story with Attiya, which was in reference to keeping Yosef in the yeshiva, rather than sending him there in the 1st place. Havradim (talk) 04:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Shemesh Sedaqah Synagogue (September 11)

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Your draft article, Draft:Shemesh Sedaqah Synagogue

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Your vote on 1948

I wanted to address you about your in the 1948 article naming discussion. You voted agaisnt "1948 Arab-Iseaeli War" because there was no Israel during the civil war phase. I'd like to point out that World War I, as well as World War II were not always "world wars", but still the invasion of Poland as well as the battle of Tannenberg are part of these world wars. The Indo-Pakistani war of 1947-1948 began with the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir, although India didn't participate in the war yet. We try to reach a consensus here. I respect your opinion and if you still oppose this option after my explanation so be it. Still I think it makes a lot sense and it is one of the most common titles for the whole war and in my opinion the most recognizable and neutral.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 16:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And please ping me if you respond.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 16:44, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bolter21: Your point is well taken, but there are still problems with it. The name in this iteration for the second part of the war is overblown and repetitive. Leaving sources on the side for the moment, I have trouble figuring out just how to define the combatants. Arabs or Palestinians? Israelis or Jews? There were other players to the conflict as well such as Arabist British interests (Glubb Pasha et al.) so for accuracy maybe we should say British and Arab-Israeli War, as in French and Indian War. But combatants are not really necessary, we use American Civil War, not Union-Confederate War. 1948 War may sound bland, but it does appear in Hebrew: מלחמת תש״ח as an alternate name for the war. Arab-Israeli is usually found in regards to The Conflict, using the definite article Hebrew: הסכסוך הערבי-ישראלי, not the war. Havradim (talk) 22:14, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Palestinians are Arabs, and the Israelis are Jews. Can we really call the conflict between the Jews and Arabs a full-scale "war"? Most of the battles during that time were against the Arab Liberation Army, which was led by a Syrian and most of its men were not Palestinians. There was the Najjdah and Jihad al-Mukkadas, but that's it pretty much. The "war", as in, an army (or a militia) against an army began in 15 May 1948. The "War" clearly, officially, begins in 30 December 1947, and end with the armistices. The casualties are counted that way, the framework of the Nakba is exactly that, and hisotrians, and more importnant (to me), less academic sources, such as lectures for the simple people or school books just go with the simple option of calling the entire period of conflict a signle war. And what would be a better name than Arab-Israeli war? It was an Arab-Israeli war. Sure there was no Israel before 14 May, but it was proto-Israel. And sure it was in Palestine but also fought in Lebanon and Sinai, and the Palestinians didn't matter to any one here. The Arab nations cared about themselves, and the Jews cared about themselves. Essentially I am not trying to find an ideal name, I am trying to find a name that will divert readers where they need and help them understand. The current names do a terrible job. "Palestine War" will annoy pro-Israeli readers, who don't even know such name exists. Israeli War of Independence will annoy pro-Palestinians. 1948 War was deemed too general and the other options were confusing. It feels like if we only had one article it would be much simpler.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 10:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bolter21: I agree with you that the entire event should be viewed as one war, as in your World Wars example. But I don't agree with your aim of trying to stretch the word 'Israeli' over the whole thing. Your enthusiasm to label it Arab-Israeli seems even stronger than your desire to call it a war, which you have stated only begins after 30 December or 15 May. Aside from Israeli not really being accurate, it will also irk Arab and Palestinian readers without achieving any real benefit. I am in agreement with you that using Palestine will only serve to alienate and confuse Jewish readers, who won't find the overview article or the civil war article easily. Using 1948 war will avoid most or all of these problems. I don't think the 3 articles will be merging into one any time soon. Havradim (talk) 21:36, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I reallly like the "Arab-Israeli" option from innocent reasons. There is a good ring to it and it is used by historians to refer to the entire war. I also really like the "First Arab-Israeli War" as it feels like how it would be named by a future historian when the conflict will end (with peace or total annihilation). I also like the "Palestine" option because it makes a lot of sense, but when speaking with fellow Israelis about it they were instantly raged.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 09:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bolter21: Adding 'First', 'Second' etc. is another reason not to like the Arab-Israeli War option since it takes all the character out of these unique historical events. Having 1948 War, Suez Crisis, Six-Day War and Yom Kippur War makes each one more identifiable at a glance instead of a confusing sequential number count. I understand why you think Palestine might make sense, but the whole point of this is to achieve consensus, which will be difficult with any politically charged term, as you have already seen with your friends. Now, will the people over at the main discussion going to see any of this back-and-forth? The naming question seems to remain unresolved at this point. Havradim (talk) 14:00, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

regarding Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron origin

I'd like to know on what source (or refs) your claim about the Rabbi's parents origin is based on. At least, as far as I know (from 'Arrutz 7' channel & more), his mother, Tova, immigrated from Aleppo (in today's Syria), and met her husband-to-be, Ben-TZion, in Israel. Thank you, בנצי (talk) 10:43, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

בנצי it wasn't my claim, that (erroneous, as it turns out) information was there before I started editing. Good catch though, and I just added the source from the hewiki article. Havradim (talk) 08:43, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see. since, obviously, I scanned the hewiki article 1st for origin, I turned to the enwiki one only afterwards, following a comment by the user who was the 1st to claim Iranian origin. Erroneously, as you say, he says there that he established his claim on enwiki. I seems I've to renew my detective work - kind of an open loop. בנצי (talk) 15:09, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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In cases where there's no damage to the wiki, {{uw-agf-sock}} can be more productive than filing an SPI case. IMHO. Cabayi (talk) 09:02, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cabayi Thank you for the link. Is there any reason why this template is not listed under Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace or in Category:Sockpuppet templates? Havradim (talk) 05:49, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace#Single-level templates, under "New user is likely to be using multiple accounts". As for the category, no idea. I'm not going to steal your credit if you want to fix it. Cabayi (talk) 17:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RFC

If you look at my history, I was going through many pages of Palestinian villages and expanding the articles with information that you will find here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dura_al-Qar%27

This Huldra person didn’t like these mass changes, and it was decided I should try an “RFC”. Unfortunately, I’ve read the article for how to make an RFC numerous times and still can’t figure it out...can you put the information in the Wikipedia link above into an RFC form for me? And if so, send me a link to the RFC...any help you can help offer is much appreciated, thank you very much Zarcademan123456 (talk) 03:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This action can now be found here. Havradim (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Moadim LeSimha, and kudos for this. Havradim leaf a message 00:09, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Misrepresentation of what you actually said

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Now who's misrepresenting whom here? GizzyCat just gave you an outdated edit. This is the revised edit [3].
Things To Notice, 1) the revise edit was made 2 min after the original edit and 2) the revised edit was posted at least 1 hour prior to GizzyCat intentionally posting the outdated edit to misrepresent what I said. hmmm....
Heck, since you keep follow me on wiki and you sit on my Talk page, the least you can do is not misrepresent what I write on it. Lol! BetsyRMadison (talk) 16:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See my response here. Havradim leaf a message 20:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The content I added on David Elazar is not a problem. You removing it is a problem because I added facts. Thank you and have a wonderful day! Sauce5544 (talk) 16:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The context in regards to this (sadly) subsequently blocked user. Havradim leaf a message 08:55, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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