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Archives: Archive 1 (August 29, 2004-March 3, 2005) - Archive 2 (March 11, 2005-March 28, 2005) - Archive 3 (March 28, 2005-April 17, 2005) - Archive 4 (March 20, 2005-June 6, 2005) - Archive 5 (June 6, 2005-July 4, 2005) - Archive 6 (July 4, 2005-July 26, 2005) - Archive 7 (July 30, 2005-September 26, 2005) - Archive 8 (September 27, 2005-October 13, 2005) - Archive 9 (October 14, 2005-November 18, 2005) - Archive 10 (November 18, 2005-February 12, 2006) - Archive 11 (February 12, 2006-February 17, 2006) - Archive 12 (February 18, 2006-February 26, 2006) - Archive 13 (February 26, 2006-May 13, 2006) - Archive 14 (May 13, 2006-July 31, 2006 ) - Archive 15 (July 31, 2006-September 20, 2006) - Archive 16 (September 20, 2006-October 30, 2006)- Archive 17 (October 30, 2006-January 13, 2007) - Archive 18 (January 13, 2007 - May 21, 2010) - Archive 19 (May 2010 - May 2012) - Archive 20 (December 2009 - present) Current

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Suggestion

If I were you, I would remove the first sentence on the front of your profile page. It isn't very polite and puts-down a fellow Wikipedian. --Hollow Wilerding 01:43, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What a strange comment. What are you talking about? William M. Connolley 19:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC).[reply]

Your userpage

Well unless I am terribly mistaken—in which I offer you an utter-most apology—are you not referring to another individual on Wikipedia? That is I believe the front of your userpage suggests: I have been "attacked" as Guettarda - Liberal Admin, and criticised for editing topics I know about. I don't think there is any better compliment here in Wikipedia. Maybe I'll add that to my sig. I am truly sorry if what I read was miscommunicated to me. --Hollow Wilerding 13:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am generously sorry for misunderstanding. --Hollow Wilerding 16:40, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's preferrable. Thanks muchly. --Hollow Wilerding 16:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

It doesn't matter if it's policy, policy is just a means of codifying good practice. I don't think anyone would argue it is not good practice refrain from using the rollback in edit wars. Saying it's not policy sounds a little like lawyering. Perhaps you should read tha page I pointed Dunc to, Wikipedia:Revert#Admins, I think it's some pretty good advice, even if it is just a "guideline." And if you are suggesting that there isn't consensus that the rollback shouldn't be used in edit wars, I think that would be quite mistaken. Dmcdevit·t 03:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Religious Attacks against you

Please explain to me why you feel you have the right to attack my religious beliefs/call me a liar. This is exceedinly offensive, even for you. Guettarda 01:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Guettarda I don't understand what offended you. I am sorry if I caused you offense. I don't think I called you a liar. Either way I did not mean to and I apologize. If there is a specific attack against you that you would like me to remove from the page I will do it.--Ben 01:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not taking a side in all this, but you've just removed what turned out to be a productive discussion from the talk page, which a lot of editors took part in. It's really not appropriate to delete everyones opinions and ideas, the best way to respond would be through a well considered response, and leave it at that. Or alternatively, take Ben up on his offer of removing the offensive parts. --Brendanfox 01:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anything productive could be refactored. Ben's posting is nothing but a gratuitous personal attack that I find intolerable. Guettarda 01:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

Hi there, I fully understand that you have removed my RFA and I thank you very much for doing so. I will try harder next time, and hope to get my edit count up to as high as I possibly can! Thank you very much again. --Hillhead15 15:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tag on Image:UWI Logo.jpg

It seems the fair use tags are some continually shifting sands. After looking into it further, I find that recently an distinction was introduced between general representations of heraldry vs. governmental/institutional seals, etc. For the former, apparently there is creative work in rendering the blazon in a particular illustration, thus these should be replaced with free images drawn from the blazon. Evidently, a new tag, {{symbol}}, was introduced to cover the case of governmental/institutional seals. I have retagged it at {{symbol}}, which gives appropriate text. (Going now to look over the others I did recently). Thanks for the feedback. --Tabor 23:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Signal Hill

Since one of your primary interests is in all things Trinidad and Tobago, could you look at the Signal Hill disambiguation page and make sure that the information that I added on Signal Hill, Tobago is accurate. ^Blank ^Verse 21:03, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

CLR James

I just thought that it'd be better to have as much detail as possible - do you know where on the island he was born, as this would clearly be much more useful than just the island name. Warofdreams talk 19:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PAs

Actually, the Wikipedia:Remove_personal_attacks#Who_should_refactor.3F suggested policy says that the victim should not refactor or remove the personal attacks. However, in the discussed instance, I fail to see how ant's commenting on FM's editing patterns constitutes a personal attack, anyway. David Bergan 20:09, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Admin assistance request

Hi Guettarda - User:Chaosfeary has moved Poison-ivy to Poison-ivy (plant) and then made Poison-ivy a redirect to a disambig page Poison ivy - all totally un-necessary and over-cumbersome. Any chance you could move it back, please? - thanks, MPF 20:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Multiracial

Thanks for supporting me in the mini-edit war on List of multiracial people. Much appreciated. discospinster 15:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Dreadlocks

Hey, Guettarda. If/when you have an opportunity, would you please drop by dreadlocks? User Coyep is intent on using a photo which does not, unfortunately, illustrate the subject at hand. Further, he insists on deleting some text I wrote about the possible connection between Egyptian dreadlocks and the phenomenon in India. I'd like your take on the disputes. Thanks. I've also asked for User:Jmabel's input.

I didn't know you were a cat person. Know anything about ragdolls? deeceevoice 21:21, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) deeceevoice 15:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Who's Odum?

There is a cancerous body of Original Research being spread by User:Sholto Maud. 24.159.243.211 06:32, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I think the articles are lousy, and Sholto Maud is inserting crappy references to them in real thermodynamics articles, but you've given me pause. I had not completed the AFD nominations, so I will undo some of them. 24.159.243.211 06:39, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hello. I'm unsure what prompted your fire against my articles. Would you like to talk about it? I'm inserting references to the articles because they have relevance. I'm not sure what more I can say. I seemed to have really got up your nose. I do not intend any of the work to be "crappy" or "cancerous". I am trying to clarify and document a body of research that is current and applied in peer reviewed journals. Please explain. Sholto Maud 00:40, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for your support Guettarda. Odum/emergy/maximum power seems to be getting a bit of flack. It will probably continue. I don't think I have the time to defend every NOR AFD. Do you have any ideas about how to clean up my current work so that it is both accurate and more acceptable, or less prone to AFD? I have tried to give clear definitions of what are reasonably unclear concepts from the books I have read. Else it will probably be deleted at some point I'm not online. Regards Sholto Maud 03:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that.

Hi,

Yeah, I should have left a message first.

Thanks for being tolerant.

Regards, Ben Aveling 20:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I should have done left the message first, because having made the correction, I noticed that the new section was being discussed elsewhere, and then I saw the new proposal for blocking people you're involved in, and then I ... And next thing, its "you have new messages"... Oops!

Thanks again, Ben Aveling 20:23, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New article on labor history

Just wondered whether you might be able to contribute something to this article. It is about the study of labor history and its evolution over the years. I thought you might know something about how labor history has interacted with black history, questions of race and class, etc and might be abloe to add some useful info. By the way, did you see the cat I secretly added here a few days ago? Mattley 11:51, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, well thanks anyway. Mattley

Longhorn logo

HELL no! Good lord, you're a Sooner?! And here I thought you were British. I hope it doesn't hurt y'all's feelings too much to see us Rose Bowl bound. · Katefan0^(scribble)/my ridiculous poll 04:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for editing my user page

An apple turnover for Guettarda, in gratitude for help given to Musical Linguist in formatting her user page.

Hi, Guettarda! Many thanks for your extremely rapid and helpful response! In gratitude, I'm sending you a freshly-baked apple turnover, made by me earlier this evening! I'll have a look at the changes you made in the coding tomorrow, to see if I can figure out what you did, so that I'll be able to do it myself in future. I actually don't have a clue about how any of these boxes (Babel, etc.) are made, but I steal things from other user pages, and mess around with them using the preview button until they look okay on my own page. I find I can do quite a lot on Wikipedia without really understanding it. Cheers. AnnH ^(talk) 00:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not true

It's true that the situation with you-know-who has been getting to me, but I'm still hanging on. Thank you for the supportive note. It makes all the difference. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 12:53, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shreshth91's RfA

Hello Guettarda,

I just wanted to thank you for supporting me on my RfA. It finally closed with a tally of 22/0/0. I hope I can live up to the expectations of the entire community. If you ever need anything, please just let me know. Cheers!--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 ($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 00:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

request for attention

When (if?) you have time, please check this out [1] and see if you can turn some of your editing energies to the matter; thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 22:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for prayer

Thank you for suggesting that I offer prayers for understanding and clear communication, et al. I have had an epiphany as a result, and I credit you with leading me to it. I'm back to making a nice encyclopedia. :) Uncle Ed 14:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus

Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 22:01, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody listening

Hi Guettarda,

I wish I did. I've been watching those pages for ages without any good ideas. I've started User:BenAveling/Scientific_theory where I started to work through the issues with KC, and there's the start of a conversation with dear Uncle Ed here that might get interesting.

To summarise my POV, ID raises some interesting questions that show that our understanding of evolution is incomplete, but it does nothing to suggest that it's actually wrong, just that there are (possibly important) things that we really don't understand (yet).

If I'm right, then that's an interesting middle ground between 'ID is psuedo science' and 'all darwinists are amoral athiests'.

Thanks for the question. Ben Aveling 02:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an admin now!!

Hi, thanks a ton for voting on my rfa - the final tally was 50-0-0 and I hope to do my best in maintaining the integrity of wikipedia. --Gurubrahma 11:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BD2412's RFA

Thank you, Guettarda, for your support in my RfA - it was about time indeed! I'll do my best as an admin to make the reality of Wikipedia rise to the level of the dream. BD2412 T 02:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC) ^{<--note new "admin gold" sig :-D}[reply]

Peer review

After days of fixing the page on The Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation, I am asking you to determine whether it is eligible for featured article status. Read its peer review page and leave any comments inside it.

Someone needs Leonard Maltin's Movie and Video Guide to complete the article (with his comments on the film). Do you, or does anyone you know, have a copy? --Slgrandson 16:10, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome

Well, thank you for sticking it out with all the creationist maniacs. Get this: a former student of mine once attended a lecture given by a creationist against evolution. As one example of why evolution is wrong, he said that evolutionists use fossils of extinct species of fish, impressed on the sea floor. But (he goes on to say) we all know that when fish die they float to the surface. I kid you not. Slrubenstein | Talk 21:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Suffolk and the World Cup

Wow, T&T made it and are now facing Eng-errr-land. Good luck!

Your work thus far caught my attention with your semi-random HHGTG ramblings when helping to prevent Suffolk (England) being second to Suffolk (US of A). Keep it up! Budgiekiller 22:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected the travel box. Funny old world, I found the travel box on a different user page and then I found your entry defending the original Suffolk's right to remain Suffolk in Wiki terms. I think your boys will do fine, the new surprise package - at least a draw against Paraguay and, who knows, Sweden and England remain so unpredictable, you could qualify with 7 points..! Anyway, enjoy the tournament and I hope to bump into you again sometime... Budgiekiller 23:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, your boys could make it through; I'd say you have a better group than the USA ended up with! One of my favorite Dallas Burn (now FC Dallas) players of all time was the great Trinidadian international Mickey Trotman. When I purchased a jersey this year, I put the number 20 and "Trotman" on the back to honor him. Dave Walker 01:40, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming Intelligent design article

Can you explain your ratonale for the move at Talk:Intelligent design? Thanks. Guettarda 22:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the entry I made here. Best wishes, David Kernow 22:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Be that as it may, you still need to make the case to the active editors on the page if you want a conversation that can result in consensus. RM isn't like VFD - the conversation takes place on the talk page. Guettarda 22:48, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. I have done as you suggest. Thanks, David Kernow 22:50, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PLoS

If they are licensed as {{cc-by-2.5}}, then they are totally compatible (it puts almost no restraints on usage except for attribution). All we need to do is give them credit the way they specify and keep the right tag on there. --Fastfission 17:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

HBCUs

Please take a look at the HBCU outreach program and see if you can sign on. Please get back to me whatever your decision. Thanks. -JCarriker 22:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Taino

The Taino article is up for peer-review. Go help out if you can. --MateoP 23:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change 2/workshop

Hi - did you perhaps make a mis-statement in your last edit here [2] - or am I mis-reading? Edit summaries or talk page comments? Vsmith 00:42, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tobago

I saw your post and replied to it. Chelman 14:55, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SEWilco

FYI Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#SEWilco_and_footnotes_again. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 15:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Politics

OK, I took your silly poll :) ....

Economic Left/Right: -5.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72

Sheesh. And people thought Bill Clinton was a liberal.

Jim62sch 23:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support on my RfA

Hey Guettarda! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was (57/4/3), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, have a question, or just want to chat (or if I get out of line!), please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D

Tom e r ^talk

Thanks for support

Thanks to everyone for their support. I've now had time to clear my head. I agree that we can't back down to the idiots who drove out Deeceevoice. Personally, I hope she returns but until then we've got work to do. I'd strongly suggest that everyone keep an eye out for users engaging in racism and bias. I'm also hoping that we will keep in touch about this issue and let each other know when we encounter racist editors and such. Any other ideas how to combat this?--Alabamaboy 15:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

nah

I have no hard feelings against anyone, but you didn't come to mind when I was writing my answers. I may have said something negative to you or had hard feelings in the past, and if that's true I'm sorry. But much has changed since then.Gator (talk) 18:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and thanks for your vote. Very cool of you.Gator (talk) 18:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pitch Lake

I noticed that you changed "Lake Trinidad" to Pitch Lake in the Asphalt article. I have several engineering reference books that mention Lake Trinidad as a large natural asphalt deposit. Is there also a Lake Trinidad, is that an old name, or do you think that's just an error? Toiyabe 18:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. It's probably one of those things that somebody got wrong back in the depths of time and has been propagated in the industry ever since. Toiyabe 20:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Deecee's talk page

The anon is the one who needs blocking here. Guettarda 23:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done.[3] -JCarriker 23:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Justforasecond

race-based statements only have sting in the context of power-disparities

Its a while, well three days since you posted this, just to say, great summary. I would have done well to put it like that but I couldn't find the words :) - FrancisTyers 11:33, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the subpage creation

Self explanatory :) I appreciate it; it's far more professional now. Trilemma 18:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

rfa limit

Thanks. I've cut it down to under 500 words. -Justforasecond 21:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

EffK is forced to Abandon a Corrupted Wikipedia

I refer you to my response of a few moments ago at 15 December [[4]],http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/EffK/Evidence#3_December_2005 EffK 02:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How's your biochem - new user guidance

Hi - A new user, User talk:Reveldrummond, has recently added the article Magnesium in biological systems. I gave him/her a welcome and have been helping with it a bit. I would appreciate it if you would take a look and add your biology expertice. The article has a large ref section and the user plans to expand it. Please take a looksee and give some advice/guidance. Thanks, Vsmith 02:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Who was that anon ...

Hi, could that have been our old friend, JG? The beligerant style sure looks familiar plus the auto topic interest. I blocked for vandalism & personal attack. Vsmith 03:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Been busy haven't he/she/they? I protected List of scientists opposing global warming consensus to stop the nonsense. Probably just shift to another page though. Vsmith 04:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

Sorry about that... Revolucion and I have been at it because he replaced the anti-chavez with the pro, and wasn't willing to compromise. I didn't realize you had put both of them up. My fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Revoluci%C3%B3n

Extending my thanks

To yet another name I'm not familiar with, for your kind support in my 64-2 adminship bid. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 07:08, Dec. 17, 2005

Intelligent Design

The third sentence states:

The vast majority of the scientific community views intelligent design not as a valid scientific theory but as neocreationist pseudoscience or junk science.[3]

And there is a vast difference between the word theory as it is commonly used and scientific theory, which the above sentence clearly states. And the word conjecture is needlessly pejorative, since it means a theory for which there is no observable evidence. I explained this on my edit. ID is ridiculous on its face and does not need POV words to frame the argument. And ID is a theory as most people understand the word theory, much as Santa Claus is a theory explaining Christmas presents :P. I am changing it back, please pause a bit before getting in a revert war with someone who isn't even on the opposing side.Keep in mind that ID proponents like Behe define theory very loosely, loosely enough that it encompasses Astrology [5] --DocJohnny 08:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stuff you've put on my discussion page

RE the following:

"I hope you do not actually work in ecology. Unsubstantiated hand waving hurts the credibility of ecology. The right wing quite effectively undercuts the science of ecology by painting us as handwaving hippies. In the US the environmental battle has already been lost because we lost control of the framing of the debate. Refusing to be constrained by little things by facts is the favourite technique of the opposition. It only strengthens their hand when people on this side of the debate adopt their techniques. Guettarda 02:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC)"[reply]

Well aren't you charming mate? I do work in ecology; I don't write encyclopedias or talk crap for a living. And I am as "rigourous" and "fact-based" in my work as anyone. Bottom line is you are raving on about lack of impacts from introduced/invasive species, and yet I see them all the time. Your northern-hemisphere arguments are not valid or substantiated, and in fact are plain wrong on the continent from which I hail. My arguments on the impact introduced/invasive species are having in Australia are substantiated by the research being done in Australia, yours are not. Time to shelve your arrogance.

And by the way, your argument about "not all introduced species" establish is not clever, and is in fact rather immature. It goes without saying that we are only discussing exotic species that establish.

Codman 01:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Felix Navidad

O.K. Guettarda, so you don't believe in Santa, but I still want to wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world and the best new year ever. Your friend, Tony the Marine 04:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What the hell?

Please see this.[6] Tell me, what do you make of it? Can someone actually do this unilaterally? deeceevoice 00:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It seems retaliatory to me, possibly for the apparent de-sysopping of RobChurch -- which he brought upon himself. Typical Wikish*t. I really am all too ready to leave this stinking cesspool. And who disciplines Turnbull? No one! deeceevoice 01:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) deeceevoice 01:08, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the User:Deeceevoice page

Dear Guettarda: I am sorry if you felt I was out of line to delete the page - but surely you must have seen what was on it? It looked like a fairly clear trolling attempt to me, and I saw no reason it should be left to stand. I had assumed that WP:NOT provided sufficient backing to remove it, and after all I would have thought the creation of the page was the violation of WP:POINT, not my deletion of it. I really don't see why that page should be left to stand. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are perfectly correct, I should have asked questions first and shot later, rather than vice versa. I rather naively assumed that page was solely to try to get a rise, although I'm still skeptical as to why it should be left. My judgement is crap at the moment, I'm having psychological difficulties and I really can't think very straight. I've never done anything quite this bad before; well, there's a first time for everything I suppose. Note I didn't even look into this user before I deleted it - I didn't know about the whole saga that preceded it, and the arbcom case. I'm extremely sorry I caused this mess; however, I doubt making an apology to Deeceevoice will do anything, since she's liable to simply respond in a rather vitriolic manner. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 01:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ianbrown's RfA

Thanks for voting in my recent RfA. I was overwhelmed at the turnout and comments received.

Ian ≡ talk 07:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

re:Category:Wikipedians by D&D Alignment

I noticed you are categorized as a Wikipedian by alignment. If you are in to userboxes, there are now infoboxes available using a standard template. See the alignment category page for details. xaosflux ^Talk/_CVU 18:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One more vandal

Hi Guettarda! One more vandal from the University of Houston. Well, I mean clearly someone very familiar to this place. He/she just pop up when they are tired ;) Cheers -- Svest 20:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC) ^{Wiki me up}[reply]

Users Fgleb, Femglow, Shlemnik, Hoboman

These users are obvious sockpuppets, and the technical evidence confirms that. Jayjg ^(talk) 00:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My Insertion to the ID article

Guettarda, I simply added the sentence as a conclusion to the section. I don't think I need to cite anything, as the section already mentioned that ID articles have not been published in peer reviewed journals, and that their lack of publication is cited as proof that ID is non-scientific. All I did in my insertion was to point out the circularity of that approach, which I think lends some balance to the section and to the article as a whole. Feel free to delete it. I won't revert it. I don't want to spend much time on this article, which, by the way, I think is excellent. I think that you and others worked very hard on it, and I appreciate your efforts. Logophile 04:44, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Do you see that the section in question mentions papers that have been submitted to journals? Do you see that one was published and then retracted? If my mentioning the exclusion of articles is inaccurate, then the entire section must be inaccurate. The only point that you have made that is valid in my opinion is that my use of the word "theory" is questionable. Change it if you want, or delete the whole sentence. As I said at 4:44, I do not want to spend much time on this thing. Logophile 05:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nature and other journals say ID papers are almost never submitted to them. Dembski says he doesn't bother. FeloniousMonk 05:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dover, PA decision

You're probably on it already, but here's a link to Carl Zimmer's blog re: the ID court decision: [7] and a pdf of the decision [8] Enjoy, Vsmith 05:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy the snow - don't think we're due for any here in the Ozarks for the short term - maybe by New Years. And Happy holidays! Vsmith 05:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

need some help

im starting to actually make some minimal progress on the cool(african philosophy) page...i need help, she keeps reverting...deeceevoice...thanks for considering--Urthogie 15:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

This is regarding your reversion of an anonymous user's edit on Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. I don't think it's unreasonable for an article about a United States court case to use United States-style dates. Remember, anonymous users (the vast majority of people reading the Encyclopedia) don't have date formats set and so it displays as whatever it is in the page. --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 01:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Hi Guettarda! I just want to say Merry Christmas to you! - Darwinek 10:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

And from me also! KillerChihuahua^?!? 15:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas to you.

Thanks! Same to you.Gator (talk) 16:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Me too...

William M. Connolley 16:26, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You too!

Thanks! You too, and happy holidays! :-) Flcelloguy (A note?) 17:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas to you too!

Guettarda, from my family to you and yours, Merry Christmas! (And a Happy New Year, too!) Jim62sch 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Winter Solstice

And I hope you too are at peace during this ancient time of hope and celebration. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 17:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I made you a Christmas card. And I don't even do Christmas cards usually! Joe D (t) 17:30, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Thank you! :) Wish you and your family the same too. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:33, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Feliz Navidad

Thanks, that was very very nice of you.ε γκυκλοπαίδεια* 17:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and same to you. Unfortunately, my Christmas will be crappy this year: Im away from all my family and friends. I'll make it special though.

BTW, I can rememeber you e-mailing me about a RFC some time ago. Sorry I couldnt get to it in time. The e-mail ended up in my "junk" files, and by the time I got to the RFC, it was closed. Oran e (t) (c) (e-mail) 17:56, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

More Xmas cheer

Best wishes to you and yours. -Willmcw 18:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bah Humbug!!

Er, did I say that? Vacation starts officially in 20 minutes - whee! Thanks and have a good one :-) Enjoy your trip. Vsmith 18:06, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Dance!

Thanks for the pleasant greeting! A happy holidays to you as well. --Fastfission 18:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Guettarda! Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you. Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 18:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And to you, thank you. Sam Spade 18:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Guettarda! Same to you as well. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 19:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And a Merry Winter Solstice to you, too, ....dave souza 19:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the greetings. Have a happy holiday season yourself. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to you as well! - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 19:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Avanappi Crismus!

Hi Guettarda - many thanks, and a happy Crismus to you too! - MPF 20:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Thank you, and the same to you. Remember, though, that your gifts don't have an "edit this page" button :).--Sean|Bla ck 20:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you, and a warm "merry Christmas" wish from me to you, your family and loved ones as well! Thank you for your excellent work on Wikipedia this year. Antandrus (talk) 21:27, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Thank you, and the same to you and your loved ones. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:04, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yuletide felicitations to you too

And to all who read this. Ec5618 23:58, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Restore request

Hi Guettarda - someone has incorrectly moved Huangshan Pine to lower case, and I'm having login problems at the moment and can't move it back, could you do the honours, please? - thanks, MPF 00:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the login problem has stopped now (as mysteriously as it appeared!) - MPF 01:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Season's greetings!

And I hope your holiday season is great, too - many thanks for the kind wishes! I'll look forward to seeing your countrymen at the World Cup next year, too. Grutness...wha? 01:10, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, Ramadan Said, happy Chanukkah, viva Krishna and Long Live Guettarda. -- Svest 01:53, 23 December 2005 (UTC) ^{Wiki me up}[reply]

Echoing everyone else, have a very Merry Christmas yourself this year! Yay, the holidays always give up more time for Wikipedia. Cheers, Bratsche^{talk | Esperanza} 02:01, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Thank you! I wish you the best, a very prosperous and healthy new year, Slrubenstein | Talk 03:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Guettarda! Happy Holidays + Merry Christmas to you too.

Hey bud, haha, it has been long time since last that we chatted..... but, in the words of that crazy Trini radio personality George Umbala Joseph- "Felicitations and Reciprocation of the holiday seasons to you too." -- You know how they always have to speak real long-winded down dey'.

Hey, you know----- I wonder if we order some Kiss black-cake via Caribbuy.com if we could get de 'ting before Christmas? ;-) Ohh and a little bit of Punch De Creme to make the holiday much sweeter! :-D You know I could use a little bit of the Parang music juss-now to really make everything juss right. But on a more serious note, I wish you and your family all the best for this holiday season too. I still cyah believe 2006 almost reach! Oye, Pressure! Time to prepare dem New Years resolutions. CaribDigita 03:53, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your sweet holiday greetings, Guettarda, and I wish the same for you and yours : ) --MPerel ^{( talk | contrib)} 06:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Feliz Navidad y/et Joyeux Noel to you as well. -JCarriker 07:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

How come everyone else got a Christmas greeting but me? I feel saddened........ :) Merry Christmas... Spawn Man 08:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas to you too

Thanks for the Christmas greetings! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. I hope Oklahoma (or Trinidad and Tobago if you will be spending the holidays there) is treating you well. Japan is absolutely freezing, but I'll hang in there. Thanks again! -Parallel or Together ? 10:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year. Guettarda 17:23, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! In the volume of work I actualy had forgotten the date. Best wishes. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 13:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

you too buddy. --kizzle 22:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Hannukah to you!

I see you didn't have anyone wishing you a happy Hannukah yet, so let me be the first. Happy Hannukah! --Cyde Weys _vote^talk 13:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas to you too

would have replied quicker , but working in Carlisle all week, best wishes jimfbleak 14:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen Wikipedia_talk:User_Bill_of_Rights

Thought you might want to know... William M. Connolley 16:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC).[reply]

Meliaceae & Nature review

Hi Guettarda - following from the Nature review of Meliaceae, I'm fairly convinced (see Talk:Meliaceae)that Nature are wrong, or at least open to scholarly dispute, on one of their points. I'd like to check one major reference further, and wonder if it is something you have access to: Pennington, T.D. & Styles, B.T. 1981. Flora Neotropica Monograph No.28, Meliaceae (New York Botanical Garden). If you have access to it, could you check on the distributions of the three species of Swietenia, please? Thanks! - MPF 22:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! - that agrees more-or-less with what I'd found out off the internet, particularly the DANIDA seed leaflets (links at Swietenia), except that DANIDA give the range of S. humilis as all down the Pacific Coast from Mexico to Costa Rica, and list it as CITES Appendix II rather than I. My past experience of DANIDA (I've visited their HQ in Denmark and have quite a few of their pubs on pines) is that they're a high-powered, scientifically reliable crowd. - MPF 23:57, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Roaring Lion again

Hello, last summer we corresponded a bit (on our "talk" pages) about Roaring Lion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Badagnani#Lion. Well, a daughter has just written in to the Roaring Lion talk page with some new information, listing several other children of Lion's which nobody knew existed (herself being one), but not listing the ones that we know about. She gives different spellings and capitalizations for Lion's birth names but basically confirms what we already knew about his adoption. She wrote from an anon IP so I hope she gets back in touch, because I have a lot of further questions for her. Maybe you'll want to help with this? BTW we've never verified the veracity of the toponym "Aroquita"; any luck with finding out if it's a real place? Badagnani 01:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm now in touch via email with Lion's daughter. Any interest, still, in following up with this? I'll ask about Aroquita, names, and some other things. Looks like "Yama" was "Llama" all along, too. Badagnani 02:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Sorry to say that I'm unfamiliar with the abbreviation NOR, though... Badagnani 02:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help

I uploaded an image of Ari Meyers within the the accordance established by Wikipedia (source and licence) and someone put it up for deletion because "it is unencyclopedic". The image is of good taste and just because it is a wallpaper image I don't think it should be deleted. Please view and if you can, express your opinion. Images and media for deletion/2005 December 24 Thank you, Tony the Marine 03:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And a truly joyful and fulfilling New Year to you

Thanks so much for your kind Christmas greetings! Very kind of you to think of me! Ahm writing you from de tropics in Australia. It ain't so good as Trinidad, y'know - and dey ain't know how to party and cyant dance or talk de queen english - but at least it ain't cold cold like me mudder country, Canada, and dey does play cricket here too! Oh, Laws! I see y' writin how you stress out in america! Eh, eh! man, don vex y'self - and mind out for dat Yankee business - life too short, y'hear me? So, all'ya have a really good time, oui?

John Hill

And a merry christmas to you too!

By the way, you say you'll remove trolling from your talk page...but what about trolling the ancient yule tide carol? (Bad joke...) Ral315 (talk) 17:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

To you and yours at Christmas

Thank you for the warm wishes. May I extend Christmas wishes to you and all whom you love now and in the New Year. -- Cecropia 18:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

I pray you have a very merry Christmas and a truly blessed 2006. KHM03 19:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you're managing to have a Trinidadian Christmas, and I wish you a stimulating and exciting new year. Hoary 21:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to add a "Happy Christmas" to you too, Guettarda, and thank you for your kind message. Hope that wiki-stress meter on your user page will soon be at Level One! AnnH ^(talk) 23:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All the best to you, Guettarda, for Christmas and the New Year, and thank you for all your hard work around Wikipedia, and especially for the common sense and intelligence you bring to every discussion and article. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 00:14, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Guettarda; a (belated) Merry Christmas to you as well. Hope it was enjoyable! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much

When I think of all of us who worked together so hard for so long, I think of the line from Henry V We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...

It was a fun ride, wasn't it? So thanks you guys, that meant a lot to me.

Who did the Thelonious with a mop artwork? Brilliant! FeloniousMonk 08:20, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Guettarda, has been adding "Judenhass" as an example of a "political epithet" on List of political epithets. Based on the Talk: page comments, it seems pretty clear to me that it's just an example of WP:POINT, but I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking a look as well. Cheers, Jayjg ^(talk) 04:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

macroevolution

Hey Guettarda,

The intro to macroevolution is too hard for anyone to understand. In particular "large-scale changes in gene-frequencies" is tough for a newcomer. In wiki we have:

- Macroevolution is the concept that evolution of species and higher taxa is the result of large-scale changes in gene-frequencies over time.

Compare to google "define", where some of the definitions are much simpler [9]:

Large scale change in organisms resulting in new species, genera, families, etc.
Evolution on the grand scale resulting in the origin of higher taxa. In evolutionary theory it thus entails common ancestry, descent with modification, the genealogical relatedness of all life, transformation of species, large scale functional and structural changes, etc.
Larger changes in evolution, such as when a new species is formed or a mass extinction.
The study of evolutionary changes that take place over a very large time-scale. Contrast to microevolution. Macroevolutionary change is usually recognised as change in gross morphology in a series of fossils. There is some controversy over whether macroevolutionary change is fundamentally just cumulated microevolutionary change, or whether the two are `decoupled' and driven by fundamentally different kinds of process.
The branching of new species from existing species.

The other thing about these definitions is that its odd that the wiki definition is different than all of these. It should express at least most of what the internet says.

-Justforasecond 02:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Wikipedia. --Bhadani 16:37, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

Greetings Guettarda,
I wish to offer my gratitude for supporting me on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with the final tally of 65/4/3. If you would ever desire my assistance in anything, or wish to give me feedback on any actions I take, feel free to let me know. Cheers, and happy new year! Elle vécut heureusement _{toujours dorénavant} (Be eudaimonic!) 09:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Wish you a happy and exciting new year 2006 =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:39, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Likelythey were removed because these were Music genre pages, which should not have Musicboxes, but genre boxes, with eventually a link in the Other Topics section.See the talkpages if I added {{infoboxneeded}} to these pages. Circeus 01:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point, I guess. I might be too worried the article will end up with both the music and genrebox (I had to adjust quite a few of these already, and I was not even looking for them!). Circeus 02:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for keeping an eye on my user page! — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:08, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Court of law in Trenton, New Jersey

I've heard that expression before, but I can't remember what it means. I can't find anything on Wikipedia or Wikiquote. Please explain and/or direct me to relevant articles. --Tantalum T e lluride 02:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found it: Wikipedia:I WILL SUE YOU IN A COURT OF LAW IN TRENTON, NEW JERSEY -- and Other Bad Jokes and Deleted Nonsense. It was a common legal threat by Mr. Treason. --Tantalum T e lluride 03:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stressed?

I noticed your stressmeter said "A poisonous atmosphere pervades this place" and was at level 3. Why is that? What "atmosphere"? I hope you get better!

Maybe this lone tulip will help...Voice of All^T|@|ESP 04:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be stressed. Stop by my talk page or drop me an email; the only poison in my atmosphere is a good shot of bourbon and a beer back. ;) · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 05:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need more stress? Ponder Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Reddi_2/Workshop#Troika

Have you seen Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Reddi_2/Workshop#Troika? I don't know if this will fly - quite likely not - but if it did, someone from the bio side would be desireable: perhaps someone experienced in the Great Evolution Wars. Perhaps you? Or someone you know? William M. Connolley 11:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Holiday wishes

Thank you so much for your very kind good wishes on my talk page. I'm sorry I was tardy in returning the sentiment, but I hope that your holidays were as joyous and fulfilling as mine. · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 16:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Michigan State University

Guettarda, Thanks so much for your help on the Michigan State University Peer review. I just put the revised article up as a featured article candidate. Please let me know what you think.

Oh, and to answer your question, I attended MSU from September 1999 to December 2004, graduating with a major in Spanish. I currently live in Lansing, but I am moving to American Samoa in 28 days, so I'm trying to finish the MSU article while I'm still in town.

Lovelac7 20:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

user page edits

Yes, it was I. For some reason, the computer (or Wiki <-- my bet, it happened from another computer on another network earlier today)) lost my logon temporarily and substituted the IP. I really appreciate the heads up, thanks! Jim62sch 01:54, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Request for Adminship

Greetings, Guettarda! I wanted to sincerely thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with a final result of 55/14/3. Your support means a lot to me! If you have any questions or input regarding my activities, be they adminly or just a "normal" user's, or if you just want to chat about anything at all, feel free to drop me a line. Cheers! —Nightstallion (?) 07:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Justforasecond added to Deeceevoice arb

I have added a section on Justforasecond harassing Deeceevoice to Deeceevoice's arbitration. I have also proposed that JFAS be banned from contacting Deeceevoice, discussing her, and enforcing any arb ruling against her (let others do it--JFAS would just stir up more trouble doing so). My understanding is that arbitrations can be expanded to include any of the involved parties, so this should be permitted. Please go and read the measure and see if it is something you could support. Best, --Alabamaboy 16:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Healing Wikipedia

I wonder if there is a way to heal the issues and differences that DCV's arbitration has brought to the foreground? In some ways, this entire affair has been bad for racial relations here at Wikipedia. Those who don't like how DCV acts have said that their actions are solely in response to DCV not being "nice" (so to speak). Those who don't like what has happened to DCV (like me) see the affair as being driven by racism and bigotry. The funny thing is that there is overlap between the two sides. A number of those pushing to sanction DCV admit that some of actions against her have been wrong and haven't helped racial issues here (and that some of the users pushing the issue against her are doing so for possibly racist reasons). Almost all of us opposed to the actions against DCV admit that she is abrasive and has violated Wikipedia guidelines and should be more civil in her discussions here. What we see, though, is a double-standard at work, with users appearing to gang up against non-minority editors like DCV for being less than civil but not doing the same to white editors. If this subject interest you, I'd encourage you to post you thoughts here on a special talk page I created.--Alabamaboy 21:42, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Justforasecond

To put it bluntly, he's pissing me off. If he starts following me round like a little lost puppy, I will take it to the cabal in no time at all, and if that persists, the other cabal. I'm sick and tired of him. Rob Church ^Talk 21:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bah. Rob Church ^Talk 21:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glorious

... and thank you. ;) I'm tired, hung over, and thoroughly satisfied! · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 16:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief. Are you STILL bitter about the UT-OU game? Besides which, did you really want to see California beat a good Southern team? :D (Nothing like an appeal to regionalism!) · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 18:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, okay. And yes! I do! Because Austin is a blue oasis in a sea of red. That's such an unfair comparison! Austin IS a really cool place. I miss it terribly. And yes, OU does have an unhealthy obsession with UT. So does A&M, and most other schools in the state (which have "one-way rivalries.") I guess that's what happens when you're the big dog and everybody else has an inferiority complex. <DUCK> I offer detente kisses after my jabs -- your Longhorn friend · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 18:41, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on SlimVirgin

Thanks for your comments on SlimVirgin's talk page, Guettarda, but my ability to assume good faith with SlimVirgin has dramatically decreased given some of the comments she has made about me which contain a fair number of incorrect statements and I find them very unfair, a situation made all the worse by the fact she hasn't responded to any of my clarifications. She may be an exemplary editor, but I like to think I am too and I believe I deserve some assumption in good faith also. I don't feel I am getting much. Talrias (t | e | c) 17:49, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Request for Adminship

Hey man, thanks a lot for voting in my RfA, I got it! :) If you need anything, just give me a shout. - FrancisTyers 01:00, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feliz Día de Reyes

I would like to wish you a "Happy Dia de Reyes", a celebration that we still celebrate in Puerto Rico every January 6. The night before the children of the island fill a little box with grass for the kings camel and place it under the Christmas tree. When they wake up the following day, they find the box empty and gifts left by the kings God bless you my good friend Guettarda, your friend Tony the Marine 07:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Muchas gracias to Guettarda!

Guettarda, even though you did not support my RfA I would like to thank you for your comments, and for your fair hearing of my response. Now that I am an admin, if you notice me doing anything that you think is ill-advised or reminds you of the behavior you disliked at the SIIEG MfD, please DO let me know. Thanky thanky, and I shall see you around! Babajobu 21:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rfa thanks

Hello Guettarda. Thank you for supporting my Rfa! I will try my best to be a good administrator. Please ask me if you need any help. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rfa nom

Thank you for thinking highly enough of me to nominate me for Administrator. I have accepted. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:12, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

evolution

If you have time please look at and comment on the most recent suggestion for reorganization. Also, I added material WAS deleted; I readded it, being more careful about the wording, and cited Menand (just look at my changes close to this time stamp) - I'd welcome your comments, Slrubenstein | Talk 00:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't get your response

Can you verify what you meant by your response on the Wikipedia: Eras page? I put a comment under yours at that page, if you don't mind could you respond there, please. PatrickA 16:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

White screen tip

Thanks for the tip... (things you find out only too late!!! :) Mikkerpikker 16:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Compromise on DCV and an apology

In recent days I have grown disgusted with Deeceevoice's comments and actions. As a result, I am withdrawing my support of her. That said, Justforasecond has behaved very poorly throughout this entire affair but more so in recent days, placing comments on DCV's talk page merely to stir up trouble. As such, I am proposing that both DCV and JFAS be placed on personal attack parole for a year at [10] Perhaps this is a compromise that a majority of the parties involved could agree to. Please check it out and see what you think. In addition, as a side note to this I am apologizing for my use of "lynching" to describe this RfAr. Best, --Alabamaboy 20:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of sexual slurs

You voted to keep what is verifiable on the AfD. Are you aware how little that is?Voice of All^T|@|ESP 02:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why did you remove my article?

why did you remove my contribution to the article? No explanation? No nothing, just removed? This is what I wrote:

"Historical records also show a correlation between increased human prosperity and higher average global temperatures. The Medieval Warm Period which immediately preceded the Little Ice Age was believed to be a 400 to 500 year event where average global temperatures were slightly warmer than today. This was also a period of increased crop production and increasing population. Records inferred from the geologic evidence suggest a similar prosperity for evolving land animals during periods of increased global temperatures. During the Jurassic Period, global temperatures were higher by 10 to 15 degrees farenheit. This is important since this warmer period represents a time in earth's history where the natural environment supported the largest land animals to have walked the earth. It was also a period where global carbon dioxide concentrations were approximately 5 times the level seen today."

Do you have a problem other than the fact that it is unreferenced? You say it is POV violation? Why would you say something like that when this is in the section entitled "Possible Benefits of Global Warming"? You didn't even say anything about it even though I posted my rationale on the discussion page. I really did not appreciate it.

Your addition is (i) illogical (human prosperity in the Jurassic?), (ii) unsourced, (iii) argumentative/unencyclopaedic is style, and (iv) misleading in the case where you changed a paragraph to refer to "the majority" of scientists (only means >50%), when it had previously said that "very few" held opposing views. Guettarda 07:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deecee strawpoll

Yeah, that's fine that you removed it. This kind of thing would require oversight, anyway, which I couldn't offer right now. Maybe in a week or so I'll revisit the issue. Babajobu 23:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scientific community

Hi there. Sorry to bother you, but I just wanted to let you know that I've put a little note into Talk:Scientific community regarding the ongoing mini-edit war on Michael Behe. I think the page is missing something relevant to the war and am soliciting opinions. Anyway, I thought you might be interested (though please feel free to not be!). Cheers, --Plumbago 09:53, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!

Hey Guettarda! Thanks for joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Puerto Rico. I was so happy to see your name there!!!!

Hopefully we can work hard together to make people around the world learn and understand our countries in the Caribbean and Latin America.

By the way, congratulations on Trinidad and Tobago qualifying for the world cup! I reckon they will do good there. My dream is, although Im not much of a soccer fan to tell you the truth, that Puerto Rico's team qualifies someday. To tell you the truth , I always had four dreams as far as Puerto Rico: A world Heavyweight boxing champion, a gold medal in the Olympics, a Football World Cup appearance and independency. One (world Heavyweight champiuon boxer) already happened with John Ruiz the only Hispanic to have won that title. The second, independency or at least autonomy, may be closer than ever (with all the discussions about the status going on), so who knows maybe Puerto Rico will be in 2010's world cup!...Ok I know thats a little daydreaming but dreaming is for free! lol

Anyways, thanks for joining our project and God bless you! Hope to hear from you soon!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Machinery Martin'

Doubles "tweak"

Thanks for tidying it up a bit....now if I could only find some to eat here in the UK! Take care and speak soon.--Vivenot 16:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RFC archive

Frankly, that was to see if anyone would notice. I don't think anyone ever reads those archives anyway. There's sense in keeping the pages, and people search for them as "requests for comment/some username", but the archive page had turned from a descriptive log into a useless data dump several months ago. Do you think it'd be useful? R adiant _>|< 21:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Routine, mostly, based on my experience that if I don't clean out RFC, nobody else will either. The more issues are listed on RFC, the less attention any individual issue receives. If an issue is unlisted, that does not imply the debate must halt. However, if an issue has been listed for over a month, it will not likely receive more attention from that page by being listed longer.
Personally, I find RFCs if I need to by looking at Special:Allpages. A quick glance at the dispute archive shows that most of its entries are not particularly more useful. I would welcome anyone's effort in creating a good archive, but instead of a sloppy one we might as well fall back on the automated one. R adiant _>|< 22:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KC's RFA

Thanks for the heads up. I went over and signed it. I guess I was on break for too long! Thanks again. -Parallel or Together ? 02:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thanks for nominating me, and supporting my Rfa, Guettarda! I appreciate your trust, and will endeavor to always be worthy of it. The puppy is now an Admin (final tally 58/7/2) Please let me know if there is anything I can ever do to assist you. KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:11, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

I don't have a fancy layout like other new admins, but I just want to thank you for your support at my RfA. It passed 48/3/1, so I have officially been promoted. I hope I won't let you down. If I'm not doing something properly, please tell me. Aecis ^{Mr. Mojo} ^risin' 21:08, 14 January 2006 (UTC) PS. I have proposed a {{drink-corp-stub}} over at WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, so House of Angostura can be moved there soon ;)[reply]

& my RFA thanks

Thanks to you for your vote and especially for your support during my RFA. And of course for nominating me the first time round. William M. Connolley 20:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Why the removal of links to Barbados maps?

I noticed you removed the links to the maps of Barbados on Caribbean-On-Line. These are detailed and useful maps, and not any more commerial than the links to Mapquest or MSN. Why were they removed and under what scenario if any would you deem them appropriate? Thanks - Anthony for Caribbean-On-Line

There are three problems with the maps - one is that we don't normally have multiple links to a single website - four links to one is excessive. Another is that we need some way to limit links, otherwise we would become nothing but a link-farm. The third thing is that the maps themselves are full of advertising (for example, the Kodak icons everywhere). It looks like the links were added more for the purpose of directing traffic to your website, rather than for the purpose of improving the article. The third criterion is the most important one - make a convincing case that the purpose of adding the links is for the good of the article, not for the good of the recipient link. I am sympathetic to anything Caribbean, but I need to look at it from the point of view of the encyclopaedia project. Guettarda 17:18, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I sympathise with your position - and certainly four links is too many; but regarding a single link, I would have thought it needs to be considered for each article whether the Caribbean-On-Line map is a useful addition. I've re-added it to the St Martin article, because it is better than the ones already there - indeed, one of the map sites already linked to principally contains links to the Carribbean-On-Line maps. TSP 18:34, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying this - we are just trying to add useful info (we really do believe that we have the best set of Caribbean cartography on the web). If it is preferred to only add one link to the main island map and not the cities/towns that is fine and we will abide by it. Most of the maps with ads are being updated actually and will not have ads in the future (yes the site does, but not the maps themseleves). Again - thanks for the feedback and being upfront about the criteria. Anthony

Could we add one link for each island we cover? My assistant says that links she added today have all been removed excepting St. Martin. Anthony

I see nothing wrong with a single link per article if they are good maps, but bear in mind that I can't speak for other editors. In addition, you might consider adding the maps of the cities to the specific article about the cities - a map of Bridgetown probably isn't appropriate for the Barbados article, but might be for the Bridgetown article. Guettarda 19:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying - we will follow this rough guideline you laid out here. Anthony

Other Users' Comments

Dear, dear, I seem to be a Wiki-Klutz (since Wiki means speedy that fits me, indeed). I goof up fast. I did not notice that I was editing anybody else's comments. I see comments used as a back-and-forth pseudo-e-mail and I thought everybody else was editing my comments, too. Some people want a reply on their page and some on my own page. If one puts in a reply some odd place instead of right after the item one is responding to, who knows if anyone will find her/his reply? Luckily I just noticed I started to edit your user page and got out of there. Welcome to reverse any of my comment-page edits and accidental edits on other users' pages. Carrionluggage 20:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I just figured out what you refer to - it was not my reply to KillerChihuaha, but some other tidying up I did. Tut tut - this is an encyclopedia and it seems to me that the English should be of good quality. Now, I do not edit quotations. For example, on the page for Judge Roy Bean I just saw "hung" used for "hanged." OK - that's a quote. But if somebody says he "Through out the baby with the bathwater" which a spelling corrector may even change to "Throughout the baby with the bathwater," seems to me that clarity and portability are enhanced by a fix. After all, non-English speakers read these pages and when they read bad spelling or syntax they may be frustrated (in their purposes, as well as their affect.) Carrionluggage 20:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trees / inversion

Just read the bit about the tree genus on your homepage. Doing a google search [11] you now come out top, and are far more famous than the thing you're named for. Is there a word for that sort of inversion? William M. Connolley 11:11, 17 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Plant sexual

So you're telling me plants run around behaving like people?--Piedras grandes 19:35, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic slur article

Hi,

I've replied to your comment on my talk page.

Thanks,

Primetime 20:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with almost everything you said. However, I probably won't ever sign on to deleting something for not having a source. In any case, if you want to delete anything like that, I think it should probably be discussed on the talk page first. --Primetime 23:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

I'm messaging you here to cut through all of that clutter on the article's talk page. So far, the only entry that I think should be deleted is "previous country stealer," as I think that zero Google hits is pretty compelling.

Primetime 19:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about "yooper," as well, as where one lives in a country as diverse as America does not imply a difference in ethnicity. --Primetime 20:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to remove anything from the article, you should add a {{mfd}} or {{disputed-section}} tag to it for a vote. Most visitors were unaware that there was even a debate occurring on the talk page. --Primetime 01:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We should follow this policy:

If you come across an article with an accuracy warning, please do the following:

don't remove the warning simply because the material looks reasonable: please take the time to properly verify it.

visit the talk page to see what the issues are.

correct it right away if you can. Please take the time to properly verify it.

We haven't tried to verify them yet. We should give their contributors time to come forward. We should also make an effort to verify them ourselves. --Primetime 03:03, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me, but that isn't a "policy", it's a suggested procedure. How much time do you think we should give contributors - days, weeks, months? The policy, WP:V, is not new. Let's say a week more. Then whatever still hasn't been sourced can start to be removed. We don't have to be hasty, but we need to get started. -Will Beback 03:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no reason why we should keep unverified material; anyone adding material is warned both by the comment text and by the boilerplate at the end of the edit box. Simple enough. Guettarda 03:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, the consensus on this page is to keep the first entries another week to give a chance for their authors to verify their work. --Primetime 03:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keeping old material is one thing, letting new, unverified material into the article is a different matter. The addition I commented out (not removed) was added despite the fact that warnings were added, and despite the fact that I contacted the anon who added the material asking for verification. Guettarda 03:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The guideline is to try to verify the material, regardless of when it is added. Thus, I think that not only should we give time for contributors to verify their own material, but we should make an effort ourselves to verify it, as well. --Primetime 03:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assume good faith is not a suicide pact. Guettarda 03:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted a note at Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute too. -Will Beback 05:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking to Will, because I noticed that he has not made any known verification efforts. Thank you for trying to verify the entries. --Primetime

Hello? --Primetime 23:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I'll take delete my most recent remarks if you delete your most recent ones. --Primetime 23:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So, what do you think? You just said a few things about me that I don't like. So, if I withdraw my comment, you should reciprocate just like you did when I posted it. --Primetime

I think that if you insult people and fail to assume good faith, and someone calls you on it, and you defend your insults, you don't then offer to "compromise" by saying "I'll delete my insults if you delete your post calling me on my misbehaviour". I think that's a ridiculous suggesting. When you misbehave you apologise and promise to treat your fellow editors with respect in the future. You don't make demands on other people. Guettarda 17:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't add anything to the article. I was reverting a change to the article, so I don't need to source anything. --Primetime 02:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

provide a diff

providing a diff would depersonalize it. because you just said that verbatim without a diff, it was like...focused at him only. I'd change my mind if you could post a diff at the workshop.--Urthogie 21:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your rationale

Hello Guettarda. I noticed you just want on a voting frenzy to delete, delete, delete. Do you have a particular rationale for this outburst of deletion votes? --Jason Gastrich 04:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your description actions as a "voting frenzy to delete, delete, delete" and "outburst of deletion votes" seems to imply that there is something amiss with my voting in AfDs. When someone's page lights up like yours did, when it appears that someone is trying to rig votes at AfD, its obvious that I would have a look at what all the excitement is about. They were obvious deletes, so I voted to delete. So what's your reason for your "voting frenzy to keep, keep, keep" such obviously non-notable articles? Guettarda 06:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't implying that anything was amiss. I merely asked you about your rationale.

I find the entries notable. Since when was the president of a regionally accredited university non-notable? Did you know that one of the 10 Christian biographies that were nominated for deletion has already been kept? Did you happen to vote to keep any or did you have all delete votes? Just curious. --Jason Gastrich 21:13, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cats

More importantly, what is your rationale for all the cats, cats, cats that are listed on this page alongside mine? Mine's obviously the cutest one. Your Longhorn friend Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 06:15, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I need more cats in my life. Since I can't have a real one right now, I need as many as possible on my talk page. The picture of yours is special though, since I can connect it to one of the coolest people on Wikipedia, even though she is a bit confused as to the difference between up and down on a cow's head ;) Guettarda 06:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rico

Please come to the Puerto Rico page and tell that anon user why his edit was reverted. I've started a discussion and urged him to discuss it, but he jsut keeps reverting.Gator (talk) 16:39, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Blocked admins"

Please read carefully. The statement is not "blocked admins should never self-unblock". The statement is "in those cases where a blocked admin should not self-unblock, he should also refrain from performing any other admin abilities". R adiant _>|< 19:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, if it's so obvious that it goes without saying, you should definitely support it. I've reworded the header to make absolutely clear that admins may unblock themselves in a number of circumstances. The reason I'm writing this is because certain snarky users (you can probably guess who) have been abusing this loophole to "legally" get back at others while blocked. Big duh that they should not. This poll is not a rules proposal, it is simply a gauge of public opinion. I should hope that public opinion is against snarkiness. R adiant _>|< 19:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was this closed???

Grant Jeffrey does not have an Afd anymore. Look here: [12]

Now, pardon me but Inferno9891 is not an Admin, why is he removing Afd notices?

KillerChihuahua^?!? 21:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He did at least two: Andy McCracken and Grant Jeffrey, both replaced now, but sheesh. He's a newbie... KillerChihuahua^?!? 21:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sirry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.183.138 (talk • contribs) .

Creative Commons

Haha, well I am certainly not a copyleft expert though I have read around a little bit on these issues. In any event, I've never heard of a case of a Creative Commons license being tested in court yet, or any copyleft license for that matter (except the GPL, in Germany only). Which doesn't mean it isn't true -- I am often totally out of the loop on such things -- but Googling around a bit doesn't turn up much either (the CC website FAQ has nothing either), so I'm inclined to think it is either really recent or hasn't happened yet. --Fastfission 21:56, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ellen Johnson

Hi, seems you accidentally entered your contribution twice to the above debate. I've struck one and signed the edit. --kingboyk 17:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Smithsmith

Hi, I noted that you had interacted with User:Smithsmith on global warming talk. He recently posted an uncalled for personal attack against WMC on Talk:Medieval Warm Period added onto some old JG attacks from last May. I deleted the attack and archived the old pre arbcom talk on that page. I also notified Smithsmith on his talk and advised him to read Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Just giving you a heads up. Cheers, Vsmith 02:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is a "Fooian"

and why should it have a template, but not something as well known as good or bad? I've never even heard of a fooian--Piedras grandes 04:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Foo. Guettarda 04:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections

Thank you for your kind words, and for your support! Jayjg ^(talk) 22:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2004 study

That was quick. Thanks a lot! - Samsara _contrib ^talk 21:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

I know that you don't know me, but HAPPY BIRHTDAY!!! JaredW 12:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy birthday from another stranger!!! Thryduulf 12:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy birthday from someone well known. :) - Darwinek 15:59, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine, thank you. Planning to upload some images from my previous trips to Commons next week. - Darwinek 16:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many happy belated returns of the Getting Older Day! KillerChihuahua^?!? 10:34, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do these people know it's your birthday? Is it even your birthday or is it a weird joke? In any case, happy Friday. -- Ec5618 10:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

m:Wikipedians_by_birthday#January - Guettarda 13:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

evolution article controversy

So much for NPOV and tolerance on the evolution wikipedia article. I find that so irritating that they throw that at conservatives 'we are intolerant', then they turn around and show how intolerant they are of ANY dissenting view on their sacrosanct evolution article page. Hypocrites!

Dougp59 16:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind words. I'm happy that today finds you in such fine spirits. Cheers! Guettarda 16:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pile of Barnstars

2 new templates

Well I think the two new templates are ready to be issued. Since they were your good suggestions, perhaps you would like to issue them, and then invite them through e-mail to the project; specifically pointing out the template they may want to sign up to. (i noticed Dragons flight's template is a little loose in 1024x768, if you want to optimize the text spacing, or add a bit more text, go right ahead) PS: Don't forget to update the timestamps. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 20:03, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You think I need to be invited by email? Eternal optimist. The dragon is a nice touch though. Dragons flight 21:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3RRs

Message you left on Agapetos angel, re: Jonathan Sarfati article:

Please review the history of that article, where Duncharris banned Agapetos angel on the 3rd revert, only to revert a third time himself (are admins that are involved in POV discussions supposed to ban the opposition, anyway?) 58.162.252.236 23:43, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not Dunc made a mistake on the first block (I haven't looked through the page history to figure out whether the first edit was a revert or not), you have now clearly guilty of a 3rr violation and block evasion. Guettarda 00:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dach

Your calling my edits "ultranationalistic POV" is certainly a personal attack. And I never threatened you, just asked a question. Space Cadet 00:37, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, calling them ultranationalistic POV was accurate. The only thing that could be interpreted as an attack was the implication drawn from that descriptor about you. As I said, my comment was not meant to be taken as an insult. Yours was. My comment was at best an unintentional personal attack (an attack because you took it as one, but still worthy of an apology). Your comment was an intentional insult in retaliation for my perceived insult. These are rather different things. Guettarda 00:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How is the ilustration on my talk symbolizing hatred for Germans, are you imagining things?Space Cadet 00:39, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. The German imperial-era helmet is a pretty universally recognisable symbol of Germany. A line through it is pretty clearly an anti-German hate symbol. Guettarda 00:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. It's a Prussian helmet, not German. And I already replaced that helmet with something else. Space Cadet 02:08, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Earl Lovelace

I've tried cleaning up this article, so let me know what you think.--Shanel 02:31, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!--Shanel 02:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skid' Nevely

Sorry about removing Skid' Nevely. It was an error.I am only recently trying to familiarize myself with wikipedia and using the edit functions and no on. I will fix it right now. I also would liek to contribute maore information on trinidad music (mostly but not limited to rock), but once again, i need to learn the interface first. Much respect on all your efforts to give Caribbean cultures exposed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.108.10.142 (talk • contribs) January 28

Thanks for letting me know. And do keep up the good work. Guettarda 23:49, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: revert

What article are you referring to? --Winter 00:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

I'm sorry if my comments were a bit ambiguous, what I was referring to was Duncharris's block of Agapetos angel. Your block of the IP was justififed, and I have no issues with it. -Greg Asche (talk) 03:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, yes, I was trembling up a storm! Actually I just decided it was a good time to go to bed, as I had been meaning to do for the last hour. Hope you are doing well. --Fastfission 01:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fuzzies

What a nice surprise on my talk page. Thank you! You are a sweetheart. <virtual hug> · Katefan0^(scribble)/poll 04:50, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright question

Thanks for your advice. I have already posted / posting suitable messages on the talk page of Mahuri, and at the Village pump. --Bhadani 14:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indo-Fijian

I believe you are right. Thanks for letting me know about that typo. David Cannon 14:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Path template

Hello, I'm trying to build a My Path template to generate boxes like the one on your page. I just wanted to let you know. :) You can find more info on my user page and at the template page. Please, feel free to help with suggestions or code, because I'm pretty new here. Thanks. --giandrea 17:33, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, and I gave credit to you and Cool Cat on the template page. Now, do you have any suggestions? :)--giandrea 18:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you anyway, I'll let you know when I will have a final (prettier) version of the template. :) --giandrea 18:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Port of Spain or Port-of-Spain?

You know, I was always sure that Port-of-Spain had dashes in the name. [13] I'd be entirely convinced, except I notice from your Talk page that you're a Trini, so I could be mistaken. Am I wrong about this?

BTW, this question arises because I noticed you were making the change away from the dashes in a lot of articles.

Thanks! --Deville 22:09, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both forms are used quite widely. As User:Nicholas Laughlin pointed out in his edits to the PoS article a while ago, Port of Spain is more common usage, while Port-of-Spain is a bit archaic (although still widely used). Although I undid his changes for consistency, the more I thought about it the more I felt he was right. So after thinking about it for a while, I decided to be bold. Guettarda 22:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, it's always good to be bold. As you say, the usage without hyphens is quite common, and perhaps more common than with the hyphens. I never thought of it as a big deal, although I always thought the dashes were correct. I guess as long as things are disambiguated, and as long as the page for Port of Spain says something about the potential confusion, we're cool. And in any case, what you're doing is the right thing, because Wikipedia should be as consistent as possible.

Also, I notice from your page that you're a Trini but live in the US now, no? FWIW, my wife is from Trinidad, a lot of her family is there, and in fact we got married down there. And I'm going to go down there as often as I can forever... ;-) --Deville 00:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2006 World Cup

We made it!!! After getting so close in 1973 and 1989, we finally qualified for the 2006 World Cup.

Guettarda this FAN-tastic news! : D Our family will be cheering for the Trinidad and Tobago national football team. About 10 years ago, two soccer/football players from Trinidad and Tobago moved to Lexington, Kentucky to play on a new semi-professional team. These players were treated like superstars by the local youth, including my kids. Also, they coached in a local youth soccer/football club that our family helped run. Some of our family's best soccer/football stories involve matches where one of these guys was a coach. Wonderful memories... --FloNight 16:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply?

I was wondering if you could reply to my response at Talk:Jesus? It would be appreciated to see your opinion about the days of the week POV dilemma. Darwiner111 20:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your insults and personal attacks? You wrote:

That's ridiculous, Guettarda. Can't you see that there is obviously an anti-Christian sentiment in all of this? If you say that Wikipedia can only "describe" AD/BC, then wouldn't you also find it logical to have Wikipedia rename all the days of the week from Monday to Firstday; Tuesday to Secondday; Wednesday to Thirdday, etc?? Saying "Wednesday" is asserting the POV of believing that this day belongs to the God Woden (i.e. Woden's Day). I've never had a reasonable excuse by anti-Christians like yourself as to why the days of the week are left alone in all of this. They are just as POV (which isn't very POV anyway) as AD/BC but nobody cares. Why? Because some people find it amusing to single out Christianity when it comes to these pathetic euphemism labelings. Leave AD/BC alone. Darwiner111 20:33, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You really need to read the policy against personal attacks. What right do you have to say "anti-Christians like yourself"? Who do you feel you are to insult me like that? What right do you have to libel me like that? Guettarda 09:19, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Ellis Clarke

Hi Guettarda. The CMG he received in 1960 does not confer knighthood. Clarke only received one "true" knighthood from the Queen and that was his promotion in the Order as a GCMG in 1972. The other was as a Knight of St John in 1973, but this is a semi-official order and does not confer the use "Sir". Thanks Craigy (talk) 22:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conchology

You're probably not the person to ask this, but I found you in the Biologist Wikipedians Category. I've totally revamped the page, basing it structurally on Entomology, and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look and maybe cleaning it up/ giving feedback/correcting typos/whatever neccesary. I would appreciate it. Thanx! СПУТНИК^{ССС Р} 04:24, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I am not really qualified to say much about the field, I can say quite readily that you have done a great job on the article (I looked at it yesterday when you left me the message, but I didn't go back and look at what the article was before you made the changes. I will look over it for accuracy, etc., as best I can, but overall it looks good structurally. Guettarda 06:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx! СПУТНИК^{ССС Р} 12:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sympathy & suggestions

I just wanted to drop a note of sympathy on your talk page, after reading your recent mailing list message. I generally agree with your conclusions - except that I still believe that there's plenty of useful work to be done, and that it can be done in a way that is highly impervious to trolls, vandals and stress. The basic idea is just to add things, not edit things. Pick a random stub. Write more text about it. Add it to the article. Don't watchlist the article. Repeat. Or work on Wikipedia:Neglected articles, or upload pictures from [14] or one's you've taken yourself. Or select a small area of the 'pedia - say, the history of Trinidad, make it absolutly excellent(but don't submit it to FAC, leave that to others), and re-post it in uneditable form on webspace somewhere. Repeat. Eventually we'll have lots more good content out there. Isn't that the idea? In any case, thanks for your work, and for prompting me to write this. JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:25, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Joke's RfA

Hi Guettarda, thanks for your support in my (successful) RfA! –Joke 16:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit on El_C's user page

Hi Guettarda. Firstly, please do not use rollback for reverting edits which are not vandalism, as you did here. Secondly, I would have appreciated it if you had taken the courtesy to tell me that you had rolled back my edits and given a reason for doing so. Thirdly, why did you remove it? Talrias (t | e | c) 20:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you assert that my use of rollback was improper, then you should not have used it yourself. It is impolite to delete content from other people's user pages, especially when they are taking a break from conflict. You really should not be editing the user pages of people with whom you are in conflict. Guettarda 20:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't use rollback in the first place. It is of course impolite (and more than that!) to accuse someone of being a neo-Nazi. And I don't believe I'm in conflict with anyone at the moment. I see you've reverted *again*, this is what the discussion button is for, not discussing only when your preferred version is on the page. Talrias (t | e | c) 20:25, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know - you rolled back and then scolded me. If you want to scold people for "improper" use of rollback, you should retain the moral high ground. If you want to scold people about reverting instead of discussing, you should discuss before you rollback. And if you want someone to remove something from their userpage, you can ask. As for conflict - just because you've stopped attacking Slim & co. doesn't mean you aren't in conflict with them. Kicking someone when they are down is never acceptable. Acting wronged when I undid the wrong you did is childish, as is complaining about the things you yourself as doing. If reverting first and talking second is wrong, then it's just as wrong for you as it is for me. If using rollback is wrong, then it's just as wrong for you as it is for me - worse, because your alteration of El_C's userpage was out of line.

If you consider my actions wrong, then your doing the same thing is doubly wrong, since I at least have the excuse that I didn't see my actions as wrong. You are intentionally doing things you think are wrong. Unlike my actions, your actions are inexcusible by your own code of behaviour. Guettarda 21:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree that my removal of that text from El_C's user page was out of line, and evidently we'll have to agree to disagree on that issue. Perhaps you could address why you (repeatedly) readded the text to the page? Just as a reminder, the text asserted that someone was a Nazi. There are only a few worse insults than that. Talrias (t | e | c) 21:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the case, then why is your user page protected? Unprotect your userpage so that random people can delete content from it, and then maybe you'd have half a leg on which to stand. Guettarda 21:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guettarda, for information: if a page is protected against moves, the "unprotect" tab shows as if it were protected against edits. If you look at the protection log, he says this there [15] and if you log out and click edit, you will see that it's fully editable. -- sannse (talk) 16:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. My mistake. Didn't realise that a page protected against moves had the same [unprotect] tab. Guettarda 16:11, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright buster, you asked for it NOW!

Well, since you asked so nicely, here's a shiny AN/I link for you:

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#ZOMG_Userpage_edit_war

Hope you like it!

Kim Bruning 22:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Aw gee... I like the star polygon! But, Sparkling prose??
Thanks! Vsmith 02:11, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Usercat templates - Geographical association

Hi Guettarda! I hope you are well. I noticed that last September you had raised a query on the User categorisation discussion page about the Caribbean Wikipedians list. Did this issue ever get resolved as I can not see a response on the talk page? A similar issue that I have raised is about geographical association. I believe that the Usercat templates should be changed to include users who have an association with a particular location rather than those who happen to be there at any given time. Take yourself for example - a Trini in Oklahoma. I have changed the templates, but I am sure that there will be an adverse reaction. What is your opinion on the subject? I welcome any suggestions you may have. Thanks! --Vivenot 13:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My changes were reverted by Silence, which is as I had expected. However, I was thinking last night that a good compromise would be to have two sets of geographical user categories: one for current residency and the other for nationality. What do you think? I know it's a lot of work, but I would be quite happy to get involved in this project.--Vivenot 09:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support on this one - Let's hope we can reach a good solution for everyone!--Vivenot 14:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox deletion

This doesn't affect your user page, but you might be interested in voting on Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:User GWB2. An excerpt: "What does this advocate? The impeachment of a president, based souly [sic] on your point of veiw [sic]. Why do you loonies care if Bush phone taps people who are suspected to be terrorists. What do you have to hide?" —Sesel 07:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Just thought you might be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Hogwarts (2nd nomination) because you participated in the first vote. Savidan 19:18, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Here goes another anon who has no knowlege of how Wiki works and has posted a good article for deletion. It's about Norma Candal, please vote here: [[16]] and help fight this injustice. Thank you Tony the Marine 05:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon Campbell

Would you be able to undo Boggle99's edit? The 05:43 edit by Tawker [17] includes his recent re-addition. You should be able to see within 5 seconds why this needs to be done.

look at the second paragraph of his edit. The first one is incorrect/misleading, but you might have to know BC to tell. [18]--Colle|

|Talk-- 08:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Daily Kos rm'al

The list wasn't a joke. So I do not know why you did this. You would know this if you read the part of the labeling that stated "Non-fiction". Even if it was a joke, it deserved to be mentioned. I don't think the deaths of several military contractors was a joke, so obviously you ought not to. I will rv your edits if you don't give me better explanation. Please, I don't feel like edit warring.I have an inkling POV is coming into this article somehow. Why do you think it was a joke? Эйрон Кинни 19:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to bring Right, Left, Centrist, or anything that has anything to do with the political spectrum into this argument, as you have done. The comment was posted on dKos, and while I was mistaken in placing that sentence on the dKos page, I will not be mistaken in placing it in the Moulitsas page. And, as you have stated it is Trivia, I will place it perfectly appropriately under the corresponding heading. Thank you. Эйрон Кинни 00:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]