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Canadian North
[edit]I noticed that you changed some dates in the Canadian North article from dmy to mdy despite the {{use dmy dates}} template at the top. Take some time to read Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Retaining the existing variety, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Retaining existing format, and Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Retaining existing styles for a full explanation as too why you shouldn't be doing that. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 01:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- By the way Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Strong national ties to a topic says "Articles related to Canada may use either format with (as always) consistency within each article. (see Retaining existing format)". So we use whichever it started in. Sometimes it's dmy and others it's mdy. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 01:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good evening. You mentioned as follows: "I noticed that you changed some dates in the Canadian North article from dmy to mdy despite the "use dmy dates" template at the top." Could you direct me to where I could find the "use dmy dates" template. I did not seeing anything on the Canadian North page relating to the dmy template. Thanks for providing the reference and link to the "Retaining the existing format." That link notes that "The date format chosen in the first major contribution in the early stages of an article (i.e., the first non-stub version) should continue to be used, unless there is reason to change it based on the topic's strong ties to a particular English-speaking country, or consensus on the article's talk page." In this case, the article was created on May 4, 2014 and from that time until June 17, 2021 the article used the mdy format. At 13:52 on June 17, 2021 anonymous user 209.217.112.238 changed the article to the dmy format. The anonymous user gave no reason for changing the date format. Based on the "Retaining the exisiting format" instruction, it would seem that the article should use the mdy format as that is how it was created in 2014 and existed for seven years. In addition, the Canadian North article is strongly tied to Canada, and the common usage in Canada is mdy (as per the Canadian Press Style Guide and Globe and Mail Style Guide for example; and federal government usage) although some people in Canada may prefer the dmy format. Based on the above, would you agree that the date format in the article should be reverted to the original (2014 to 2021) mdy format? Greenwood10 (talk) 01:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure where you get the idea that it was created in 2014. The article was created 21:17, 2005 March 2 and the first use of a date was 2006 October 31 using dmy format. So it should remain in that style. The template for articles is at or near the top of the page. It may be accompanied by another saying {{Use Canadian English}} or another English variant. Although some style guides prefer mdy Wikipedia permits both for Canadian articles. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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