User talk:Grandpafootsoldier/Archive 9
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Twilight
Hello, hope the poster image uploading has been going well! I was wondering if you can review Twilight (2008 film) to see if its poster image is really the updated one from IMP Awards. Sergay first noticed that the poster image was still the original one, where I had seen it as the newest one. However, just now, since an editor tried to upload another version of the new poster (possibly because he/she sees the original poster, too), restoring the image you had updated makes me see the original poster now. If you click on the original poster image, it shows you the image page of the new poster. I don't know if that makes sense, since understanding how other editors see a page can be tricky. I was wondering, though, if you could upload again the new poster as a completely new file at 300px and with rationale -- just call it Twilight film poster.jpg or something. We'll dump the Twilight poster.jpg since it may be buggy with the different versions of the posters contained in the file. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I've uploaded a new one. Hopefully this one will work better. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 22:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you please add a plot summary in this article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 03:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I haven't seen the film, so I can't really give a full synopsis. I did add a basic plot overview to the intro, however. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 03:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
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The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor
Please update the poster. The poster listed on the page is not the official one-sheet. In the interest of Wiki please change it out for the current one-sheet. www.themummy.com.
Best Luke —Preceding unsigned comment added by UniPics1 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
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Star Wars kid
The video in question is copyrighted, not public domain. I have speedily deleted the screenshot on this basis. FCYTravis (talk) 18:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just curious, who exactly holds the copyright? I don't really see how anyone could considering it was put on the internet by a couple of people who had no right to copyright it, and the kid himself apparently has no desire to. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 19:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- The subject of the video owns the copyright to the video, as it was his creation. FCYTravis (talk) 20:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Fine, then a suitable "fair-use" tag could be used. I don't think it was necessary to delete the image entirely. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 20:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- There is longstanding consensus that we're not going to further sensationalize this issue by identifying the video subject. You are welcome to open a discussion on the article Talk page if you desire to change this. FCYTravis (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Consensus from whom? I thought Wikipedia was not censored? Besides, you really think having a small, blurry, screen capture of a video which can be found at literally thousands of other places on the internet is going to "sensationalize" it anymore than it already has been? How ridiculous. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- The fact that we are not censored does not mean that we publish anything and everything. We make editorial judgments about what to include and exclude. A consensus judgment stands that we should exclude identifying information about him. That it may be available elsewhere is not relevant. As I said, if you desire to change it, open a discussion on the article Talk page. FCYTravis (talk) 20:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Consensus from whom? I thought Wikipedia was not censored? Besides, you really think having a small, blurry, screen capture of a video which can be found at literally thousands of other places on the internet is going to "sensationalize" it anymore than it already has been? How ridiculous. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Fine, maybe I will. --Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
FCYTravis broke the 3 revert rule, removing Ghyslain Raza's name and then used his tools to resolve a conflict that he was invovled in ( and dont say that you were allowed exemption becouse of BLP since that only applies to unsourced not factual material.) Its quite clear Mr. Travis thinks he owns the page. 201.50.213.170 (talk) 20:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is typical behavior of Travis. Travis repeatedly removes things and then touts his own personal position as "consensus". Just see Talk:Nigel McGuinness for a prime example. I would suggest opening a discussion and finding out what the real consensus is, knowing that when Travis says this is how we do things, it is often not so. Reswobslc (talk) 20:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Looks like I've opened up a whole can of worms with this. Okay, I've opened a discussion on the talk page. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 20:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
BLP applies here, like it or not. I encourage everyone involved to accept that. Please do not go around attacking or threatening Wikipedia administrators over issues which have become Foundation / OTRS level problems, particularly BLP concerns. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 21:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Who's attacking anyone? I was just questioning this particular decision. I'll ask more about the issue at hand on the article talk page. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 21:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- You aren't attacking, but both the IP user and Reswobslc were. Sorry if I wasn't precise enough about that. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 21:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Who's attacking anyone? I was just questioning this particular decision. I'll ask more about the issue at hand on the article talk page. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 21:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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Blantant bias on communism.
Dear GrandpaFootSoldier, I have found your recent edits to Soviet Union, Karl Marx, China and others to be disruptive and ask you to stop adding bias to them, it could be considered vandalism. Please keep your opinions on communism out of your editing. CindyTalk 01:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Huh? Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. I haven't edited those pages at all in recent memory. Can you provide some linked examples of my so-called "bias"? -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 01:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon for example CindyTalk 01:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you notice, the user who vandalized that particular page is named "Grandpafootsoldiers" with an 's', not Grandpafootsoldier singular which is my user name. I assure you I had absolutely nothing to do with this action. My guess is that this particular vandal purposely chose a user name as close to my own as possible in order to cause more trouble. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 01:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, it's pretty obvious now that this person is purposely targeting me. The user page for User:Grandpafootsoldiers has been redirected to my own. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 01:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism Warning
uw-vblock
unblock|I am not the one who is vandalizing pages. The user who has been doing this has chosen a name very similar to my own in order to shift blame.
- You were never blocked. Just adding the block template doesn't actually block a user. I blocked Grandpafootsoldiers (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) indefinitely for impersonation and harassment and in the process Micov (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was caught in the auto-block, so they appear to be the same person. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing! KnightLago (talk) 02:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! ;) -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 02:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Another thing, in the future you can always report problems of this nature to WP:AN or WP:AIV. KnightLago (talk) 02:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! ;) -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 02:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I was mistaken for a vandal due to my reverting edits made by Grandpafootsoldiers (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). CindyTalk 03:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
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Non-free images
Hello, I am working on revising details about images in WP:MOSFILM, and part of the revision involves the poster image for the infobox. I am conducting discussion here, and I am working on a new draft at User:Erik/Images. Since you have extensive experience in uploading poster images, I was hoping you could review the existing guidelines and my draft and share any suggestions you may have about guiding other editors in the process. Thanks, Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
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The Brothers Bloom
Hello, any chance you can resize this and add it to The Brothers Bloom? I'm at a work computer. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, it's done. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Terrific, thanks! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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Your uploads
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Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice
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WikiProject Films roll call and coordinator elections
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Clubbed08post.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:FreddieLogo Lg.PNG)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:NecronomiconIV.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:00018066.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Speed racer ver5 xlg.jpg)
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Image copyright problem with Image:Guns of the south.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Guns of the south.jpg. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check
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- That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --FairuseBot (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (Image:Extreme measures.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Beverly hills chihuahua.jpg)
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Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Flashdanceposter.jpg
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:DeusExHeliosEnding.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Dxinventory.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Command.gif)
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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Heart of dixie poster.jpg)
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