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J. Gerald Hebert

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Speedy deletion nomination of J. Gerald Hebert

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A tag has been placed on J. Gerald Hebert requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Please note that assertion of permission to use material is not enough.

Also, even if the copyright issue were resolved, the promotional tone of a company or personal website is likely to be unsuitable for an encyclopedia article, which requires a neutral point of view.

Article subjects need to have notability, which is not a matter of saying so but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." There is more detail at WP:Notability (people), and good advice on how to write an acceptable article at WP:Your first article. JohnCD (talk) 21:12, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Advice

You say that Mr Hebert asked you to create a page for him. That shows some misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is - understandable, as we do not explain it as well as we should to new contributors. It is not a "notice-board" site like Myspace or Facebook where people come to pin up copies of promotional pieces about themselves or their companies or employers: it is a project to create a neutral, reliably-sourced encyclopedia, so that it is not for any kind of promotion, and autobiography or editing with a conflict of interest are discouraged.

One important difference from the Myspace-type sites is that nobody owns a Wikipedia article, not its first author and least of all its subject. Others can and will edit it, you will not be able to insist on a preferred version, and you may encounter Wikipedia's Law of Unintended Consequences. If Mr. Hebert wants an "official" biography which he can control, Wikipedia is not the place to come.

We cannot accept copyrighted material on the basis of an assertion of permission, because (a) we cannot be sufficiently certain that someone on the end of a wire is who they say they are or has the authority they claim, and (b) release to Wikipedia involves more than just permission to reproduce: our CC-BY-SA license allows any reader to copy, modify and re-use for any purpose including commercial, and it is essential that the actual copyright holder understands and agrees. The ways to make a valid copyright release are explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.

It is not often worth doing that, because material written for other purposes is usually unsuitable for an encyclopedia article.

Wikipedia is selective about article subjects. They require WP:Notability, which is not a matter of saying so but has to be demonstrated by references that show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? More at WP:42 and WP:Notability (people).

If you want to proceed, since you clearly have a COI in respect of Mr Hebert, you should not post an article directly. What you should do is:

Consider WP:Notability carefully. If you cannot find independent references to demonstrate it, you will be wasting your time.
Read WP:Your first article for general advice.
If you want to use material from the organization's website, see WP:DCM for how to make a release.
Go to Help:Userspace draft and fill in the title of your article. That will make a draft page where you can work on it, with a link to submit it, when it is ready, to WP:Articles for creation, where (with some delay because the people who work there, volunteers like everyone at Wikipedia, are overloaded) an experienced user will check the article and either accept it or give you feedback.
When writing, take care to avoid a promotional tone. You are not writing for Mr Hebert; you are writing for Wikipedia about him.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: J. Gerald Hebert (March 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.
Please read the comments left by the reviewer on your submission. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:35, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/J. Gerald Hebert concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/J. Gerald Hebert, a page you created, has not been edited in 6 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:30, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/J. Gerald Hebert

Hello Geg42. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "J. Gerald Hebert".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, copy this code: {{subst:Refund/G13|Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/J. Gerald Hebert}}, paste it in the edit box at this link, click "Save page", and an administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: J. Gerald Hebert (July 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:J. Gerald Hebert and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Sulfurboy (talk) 05:52, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Geg42, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sulfurboy (talk) 05:52, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:J. Gerald Hebert concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:J. Gerald Hebert, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 23:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]