User talk:Gavin Lisburn

July 2008

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Provisional IRA

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Provisional IRA

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UDR

Hi Gavin. I'm really sorry I had to rvert your correction on the UDR website but I had put it there originally and it was a quote from somewhere else, verified by an inline quotation. As far as I know we have to keep such items as they are, even if there are mistakes in them. I've added that on the reversion notes on the page history.

sorry again and thanks for your continued edits on that article. The Thunderer 19:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I like these wee edits you're doing on the UDR page. Over a period of time you're contributing good, constructive material in small doses. Moving the Freedom of the City stuff is exactly the sort of thing I mean. Of course it should have been in the awards section all along. Well done for spotting it.The Thunderer (talk) 11:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; still learning how to do things with Wiki. Happy to move slowly and with agreement.Gavin Lisburn (talk) 19:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 2008

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BCDR

I did adapt the diagram here to BS7-2 but left the open/closed red/pink balance as it was before. I am thinking of starting a discussion re the value of using the open line red to denote the line which is the subject of the article, as I think has been done in this case. Some would argue that this method enables the writer to distinguish between the track of that company or railway and that of others; personally I think it makes it hard to tell which is open and which is closed as the colours are used in a non standard way. So my answer is yes, I have but this is not a thing i started and may require discussion before toes are trodden on. Thoughts? Britmax (talk) 19:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shamrock

Just for your information, the shamrock is the floral emblem of Ireland, not Northern Ireland, despite what the BBC may say. This award may be for NI citizens and not Republic of Ireland, but that doesn't change what the four emblems represent. Please also don't delete references to a statement, especially where in this case the MoD are clearly the main authority. Ranger Steve (talk) 09:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On reread this post seems a touch aggressive - not meant to be I promise Ranger Steve (talk) 11:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rail transport in Ireland

I reverted your edits to this page due to Rail transport in Ireland being the static name of this page. Which in the first sentence acknowledges both Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland, both operators are stated in the info box. I removed the Enterprise picture because it is an embarrassment to rail transport in Ireland! The Class 22000 is the most modern train in operation. I would favour when the new CAF trains roll out next year putting that as the picture until we finally get some form of quality Enterprise loco. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NorthernCounties (talk • contribs) 19:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Nickname Test

Small test. jggb 15:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC) Another. "an interested party" 15:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Gavin. If you want to give yourself a nickname or otherwise change the appearance of your signature, just click "My preferences" at the very top of the page. Half-way down the first tab (User profile) you have the option of changing your sig, with instructions on how to do it. Having said that, changing the name by which you are known to an anonymous name like "an interested party", as you did here, is not considered good practice on Wikipedia. Regards, Scolaire (talk) 18:45, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Prince William

Hi Gavin, I rolled your addition to the article Prince William of Wales back because, in my view, it is a breach of privacy (see WP:BLPPRIVACY). I used rollback so as not to draw attention to this rollback. Martinvl (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is information in the public domain. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 15:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gavin, I appreciate that this is in the public domain. Nevertehless, please read WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:BLPPRIVACY. If you still disagree, please discuss at the appropriate forum.Martinvl (talk) 16:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, thanks for the guidance.

Thank you

Hi Gavin, thank you for tweaking David Alexander Mulholland. I got the idea of bomb car from a journalist, but you are right that car bomb is the correct usage. Thanks again for your help.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not proven baronets?

What is this all about? I actually thought it may have been placed there by some confidence trickster in preparation for a claim to be nobility... but clearly not. Still, I am confused.... Egg Centric 23:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Even at today's date, this site http://www.baronetage.org/succession-to-baronetcy/ is still showing the Hogg baronetcy as unproven. --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 03:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very simply, I was unaware until now of the requirement to prove a baronetcy - and I suspect that my ignorance is far from uncommon - to the extent that talking about proof will confuse most readers.

The solution is probably to elaborate upon proof in the main baronetcy article and then hyperlink that section from Hogg and probably various other baronet pages. I will write that section if necessary, but will leave it some time given my lack of knowledge... Egg Centric 04:36, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edits in Danish Air Show article

On June 30 you reverted said article because I'd added that another air show had taken place. You did not classify it as erroneous and/or mistaken, but as vandalism? How can keeping an article up to date be considered vandalism? In the mean time I've reinstated the edit.

Above comment is by User:Chrthiel

Gavin,

Chrthiel is correct. You should be more careful when using STiki. If you were unsure about that edit it would have been very easy to do a Google search.

Yaris678 (talk) 18:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While we're on the subject I wouldn't call this vandalism. A good-faith revert might have been appropriate though. Yaris678 (talk) 18:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unsource?

Definitely unsourced - and i think i know why it was added. Currently a smear campaign going round Magherafelt District trying to make the said band look like sell-outs. Mabuska ^(talk) 14:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate closure of requested move discussion

I have undone your closure of Talk:Mary Peters (athlete)#Requested move. Once you have stated your opinion, you're involved and can't close the discussion. Let the discussion run until the second week comes to an end and let an admin close it. Favonian (talk) 18:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

UDR

Hi Gavin. I noted your small edits on the UDR page and wondered if you wanted to join the discussion on the talk page? I could certainly do with more opinion on some new facts I've added recently as well as someone to read over my edits and point out any failings? It's not like it used to be on this article. Things are proceeding in a very calm and collegiate fashion. I'm feeling a bit isolated though being the only person who's actually doing any substantial editing at the moment. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:42, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gavin may I direct your attention to here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ulster_Defence_Regiment#Pressing_on for an answer regarding the post you left on my talk page. Thank you. SonofSetanta (talk) 13:42, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See here please http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ulster_Defence_Regiment#Continued_edits SonofSetanta (talk) 12:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gavin was Huxtable Colonel of the Regiment of all of the RIR or just Home Service? I ask because he is a Woofer, not from any of the Irish regiments and they usually have one of their own as Regimental Colonel. SonofSetanta (talk) 06:41, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not aware. It was either reverse the posting or expand to cover the date shown. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 11:32, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and bear this one in mind and see if I can trawl the information up from somewhere else. It is important but as somebody else commented: he couldn't have been UDR regimental colonel after 1992 - because it didn't exist. To my mind though it would be odd if the new Royal Irish Regiment accepted an outsider in this appointment because they had plenty of their own people with the necessary rank to take the appointment. The again in the army always expect the unexpected. BTW you don't happen to have any good UDR pictures kicking about in your collection do you? SonofSetanta (talk) 11:41, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wee tip for you

I noted something on my watchlist about you deleting "Rt Hon" from Ken Maginess's article. That is the right styling for his name as he is a Baron. All Baron's get "Rt Hon" in front of their name. Hope that helps? SonofSetanta (talk) 15:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Following reference to Parliament UK they say *Rt Hon. should be used when a Lord is a member of the Privy Council. When you look up a member on the Members of the House of Lords list, it will state if they’re a privy counsellor. Lord Drumglass is not a PC. Thoughts? Gavin Lisburn (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite right that Privy Councillors use the title but it isn't restricted to them. Other appointees are allowed to use it as are some ranks in the peerage. There's actually good explanation of it at The Right Honourable. SonofSetanta (talk) 16:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another guide to it on the wiki, Baron#Style_of_address. It says "Non-Scottish barons are styled The Right Honourable The Lord [Barony]." I'd self revert were I you mate. I'd do it for you but I've sworn off troubles related articles. SonofSetanta (talk) 16:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need to go back in there Gavin and self revert. It's a 1RR page. SonofSetanta (talk) 16:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved discussion to the 'talk' page of Baron Drumglass. There appears to be inconsistency between the HoP page, Debretts and Wiki. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 23:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've searched for an answer and most pages including the Collins dictionary insist the title should be used for Barons, see here [1]. I have found a UK government archive though here [2] which agrees with you. If you do a page search for Baron or Peers you will get to a section called "Peers" which explains it this way, "Peers - There are five ranks or degrees in the Peerage. These are in descending order of dignity: dukes, marquesses, earls, viscounts and barons. "The Right Honourable" should be applied only where the peer is a member of the Privy Council." So you may be right. I'll post this information on Counter revolutionary's page too so you're both singing off the same hymn sheet. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. We compromised earlier by me adding it back into the Infobox. Looks ok there but definately looked wrong when insertein the full name etc. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be honest and say it looked ok to me in the lead and the first few sources I checked supported that. I have to say though, despite the fact that most sources say it should be used, a government advisory carries more weight than all of the others and it seems to be that you were right all along. I was just concerned about the potential for edit warring. I've been caught this week for the same thing. I thought I was reverting vandalism but it turns out I was reverting two admins which left me in an invidious position. McGinnis is clearly tagged as being a person involved in the Northern Ireland Troubles, even though the "Troubles Sanctions" header is missing from the page. I hope you don't mind me kindly advising that you exercise 1RR protocols in all situations like this and don't walk yourself blindly onto the AE board as I did. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all, thank you Gavin Lisburn (talk) 16:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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